[Pizza Wars 2013] Chicago style vs New York style

[RunningMn9]

just like in Chicago casserole.

This made me happy. That is all.

[gbasden]

just like in Chicago casserole.

This made me happy. That is all.

Agreed.

[mori]

You guys do realize there is a Imlawboy shit-storm that is about to rain upon us.

[em2nought]

I've been thinking about pizza all day, thank you very much. lol I wish Cassidy's still existed across from the UF campus, I'd take a road trip. Their pizza was like a homemade loaf of round bread somebody punched in the middle and then inserted very generous portions of everything good. I have no idea whether that is a style of pizza or not? Looked something like this, but it wasn't cut out in the middle to make it look that way like this one was.


Instead I'll be a heretic, and settle for the $2.67 special sometime next week.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPho ... orida.html

[RunningMn9]

You guys do realize there is a Imlawboy shit-storm that is about to rain upon us.

I do, but he can take heart that Chicago Casserole is quite delicious.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[JSHAW]

On youtube, and the cable channel FUSION there's a show called "The Pizza Show", which is anything and everything to do with pizza.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... LAKVoV3EyQ

There's an episode about Chicago style, and many many episodes on NY style.

For you do-it-yourself kinda people there's an episode where Frank gives you the recipe for pizza dough and how to make your own.
I tried it, it works great, but I prefer to buy it from someone who has more experience than I .

[Kraken]

Yeah, my grocer has two brands of pre-made dough that work and taste great. Never saw any reason to bother making my own.

[Zarathud]

Your flabby flimsy girly pizzas are just jealous of Chicago style pizza. So big and tasty...mmmm.

[Z-Corn]

On youtube, and the cable channel FUSION there's a show called "The Pizza Show"

Yeah, that's on TV on Vice, great show!

[ImLawBoy]

You guys do realize there is a Imlawboy shit-storm that is about to rain upon us.

I do, but he can take heart that Chicago Casserole is quite delicious.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Quite delicious pizza. Still confused by the tiny minds who can't comprehend different styles of food.

You black olive lovers should go to hell.

Mortoned.

[LordMortis]

You black olive lovers should go to hell.

Mortoned.

It is truly mindblowing how consistently wrong one human being can be about everything.

Black olives make a veggie pizza way better
Black olives make any pizza with ham way better
Black olives make any sandwich served in subroll better. And that includes meatball sandwich.
Black olives are the quintessential snack food you pick at while you wait for any holiday dinner.
Nachos wiithout black olives? Inconceivable.
Salad with no black olives? Awkward.

I really don''t understand how you make it from day to day.

[Isgrimnur]

My wife loves vegetables. Hates olives. I got black olives on my pizza for a while. Now they just taste like copper to me.

[RunningMn9]

Still confused by the tiny minds who can't comprehend different styles of food.

Umm...I *can* comprehend different styles of food. That's the entire point that I would make. Chicago Pizza Casserole is a clearly different style of food than pizza. That's not a bad thing. That's a wonderful thing. You've literally figured out how to make the most delicious casserole.

I'm still confused by why it's so important to Chicagoans for it to be something that it's not, rather than reveling in what it actually is - which is America's foremost casserole.

[LordMortis]

Did I mention cold pasta? Black olives are necessary conditional to cold pasta.

[ImLawBoy]

Still confused by the tiny minds who can't comprehend different styles of food.

Umm...I *can* comprehend different styles of food. That's the entire point that I would make. Chicago Pizza Casserole is a clearly different style of food than pizza. That's not a bad thing. That's a wonderful thing. You've literally figured out how to make the most delicious casserole.

That's just flat out wrong. It is pizza. It's always been pizza. It's just a different style of pizza. Just like hoagie is a different style of sandwich than a club sandwich. They're still both sandwiches.

I'm still confused by why it's so important to Chicagoans for it to be something that it's not, rather than reveling in what it actually is - which is America's foremost casserole.

It's important because 99% of the world knows Chicago style pizza as pizza. Jon Stewart having a misguided riff that some hipsters thought was a funny way to poke at us rubes in the flyover states isn't a compelling reason to change the nomenclature used for Chicago style pizza for ~75 years. It still has the same basic components as other styles of pizza, just assembled a bit differently (just as other styles of pizza also have various methods of assembly).

[Isgrimnur]

Did I mention cold pasta? Black olives are necessary conditional to cold pasta.

Cold pasta is shit, especially when trying to pass itself off as some sort of 'salad'.

[Archinerd]

You black olive lovers should go to hell.

Mortoned.

It is truly mindblowing how consistently wrong one human being can be about everything.

Black olives make a veggie pizza way better
Black olives make any pizza with ham way better
Black olives make any sandwich served in subroll better. And that includes meatball sandwich.
Black olives are the quintessential snack food you pick at while you wait for any holiday dinner.
Nachos wiithout black olives? Inconceivable.
Salad with no black olives? Awkward.

I really don''t understand how you make it from day to day.

Though funny, I didn't actually say I don't like black olives.

[ImLawBoy]

I think I just figured it out. People who refer to Chicago style pizza as casserole actually prefer it to New York style pizza. If they refuse to call it pizza, though, then they don't have to admit that there is superior pizza to the New York style.

Nice try, East Coasters.

[LordMortis]

Cold pasta is shit,

You need to go sit yourself in the corner with ILB. I can understand not wanting to call it salad but calling it shit? Tuna and pasta shells and chives and black olives and finely diced green peppers and finely dices white onions if you must, celery served along side cold fried chicken is the stuff of summer picnics.

I...

You...

I can't even...

[LordMortis]

Also, if we're going to go about laughing at coastal elitism, From the file of things that will make RM9's head assplode.

https://matadornetwork.com/read/17-whis ... best-world

This $17 whiskey from Aldi was just named one of the best in the world

Highland Black 8 Year, Aldi’s $17 blended scotch, and Glen Marnoch, its $23 single malt, both won silver medals at the 23rd annual International Spirits Challenge

[Isgrimnur]

Tuna

No,

chives

no,

white onions

and no.

[LordMortis]

[RunningMn9]

I think I just figured it out. People who refer to Chicago style pizza as casserole actually prefer it to New York style pizza. If they refuse to call it pizza, though, then they don't have to admit that there is superior pizza to the New York style.

Nice try, East Coasters.

Nice try, flyover rube.

I don't prefer it to New York style pizza. The big difference between all other styles of pizza and Chicago casserole is that the rest of them are assembled into actual pizza, and not a casserole that requires the use of utensils.

I like it, because it's excellent pizza-inspired casserole.

Pizza bagels have the same basic ingredients as pizza, and primarily differ in the assembly. But pizza bagels aren't pizza.

[ImLawBoy]

I think I just figured it out. People who refer to Chicago style pizza as casserole actually prefer it to New York style pizza. If they refuse to call it pizza, though, then they don't have to admit that there is superior pizza to the New York style.

Nice try, East Coasters.

Nice try, flyover rube.

I actually think of Chicago as more of a "layover" city given O'Hare, but it wasn't as fitting for my rant.

I don't prefer it to New York style pizza. The big difference between all other styles of pizza and Chicago casserole is that the rest of them are assembled into actual pizza, and not a casserole that requires the use of utensils.

It doesn't require the use of utensils (although they can help). The crust is sturdy enough that it can survive the lift test to your mouth with no issues. If that's your differentiator, you're going to have to come up with something else. It's still assembled with crust on the bottom, then your cheese/toppings/sauce in some order. If you're going to say its something completely different from other pizza styles because those toppings may be laid in different orders, you're splitting a mighty fine hair in trying to deny Chicago style pizza its due.

Pizza bagels have the same basic ingredients as pizza, and primarily differ in the assembly. But pizza bagels aren't pizza.

People haven't been referring to pizza bagels as pizza since their first creation, and didn't widely accept them as pizza (or a style of pizza) for the first 70+ years of their existence. Plus, they don't really have crust (although maybe you East Coasters have even weirder opinions about your bagels than you do about pizza).

[RunningMn9]

People have been referring to white chocolate as chocolate since it's creation. But that shit still ain't chocolate.

[AWS260]

It doesn't require the use of utensils (although they can help).

In the sense that catching a fish doesn't require the use of a line and hook (although they can help). I can't imagine trying to lift a slice of deep dish with my hands.

[ImLawBoy]

It doesn't require the use of utensils (although they can help).

In the sense that catching a fish doesn't require the use of a line and hook (although they can help). I can't imagine trying to lift a slice of deep dish with my hands.

Expand your imagination. I've done it many times.

[ImLawBoy]

People have been referring to white chocolate as chocolate since it's creation. But that shit still ain't chocolate.

No it's not chocolate. It's white chocolate, which has its own meaning (as I understand it, it contains cocoa butter, but no cocoa nibs). It's completely irrelevant, of course, because its made up of different ingredients than chocolate. In the pizza scenario, we've got more or less the same ingredients. Keep grasping at those straws, though. Maybe you'll get one and be able to hold on to your unnecessary distinction!

[LordMortis]

Expand your imagination. I've done it many times.

Expanded your imagination? I concur. You imagine all kinds of craziness.

However, Chicago pizza is finger food. Honestly, I'd be more inclined to eat NY pizza with knife and fork because it's more prone to be messy than any other sort of pizza that I can think of. That super thin but flaccid crust usually in 18" or larger diameter loaded with grease begs for you to be more proper and careful than you normally should be for pizza regular pizza consumption.

[ImLawBoy]

Expand your imagination. I've done it many times.

Expanded your imagination? I concur. You imagine all kinds of craziness.

Don't be jealous just because my taste buds work properly.

[LordMortis]

Don't be jealous just because my taste buds work properly.

meh

[AWS260]

Honestly, I'd be more inclined to eat NY pizza with knife and fork because it's more prone to be messy than any other sort of pizza that I can think of. That super thin but flaccid crust usually in 18" or larger diameter loaded with grease begs for you to be more proper and careful than you normally should be for regular pizza consumption.

That's why you fold it!

[LordMortis]

So you funnel the mess in to one concentrated area on your shirt. Got it.

[em2nought]

...and now I''m hungry for black olives. That's just great. I'm not going to look at the salt content on the can.

[LordMortis]

I'm not going to look at the salt content on the can.

That is prudent move for any olive eater.

[em2nought]

I'm not going to look at the salt content on the can.

That is prudent move for any olive eater.

Can you believe it, some old fart in line at Publix just told me my Peanut Butter Pie ice cream had too much cholesterol for him. I surely didn't need to know that either.

[gbasden]

You black olive lovers should go to hell.

Though funny, I didn't actually say I don't like black olives.

It's quoted, so you must have said it. And you are absolutely correct. Anyone that would foul pizza or casserole with little black death bombs is doing themselves no favor.

[Zarathud]

A casserole is defined by the pan, not the crust. It's actually rather simple.

Chicago pizza with its extended crust architecture is the skyscraper of pizzas. It's superior in design and flavor. No utensils necessary, and it's less messy when the cheese sticks. A sloppy pizza is a poor pizza.

[Isgrimnur]

So how long do you have to wait before it’s cool/stable enough to handle?

[em2nought]

A casserole is defined by the pan, not the crust.

Gotham City Pizza