The Former Trump Presidency Thread

[Jeff V]

Trump Is Probing the Constitution for Weaknesses, and Finding Them.

Also mentions how Blago wrote a WSJ op-ed this week condemning the 'deep state'.

Has the WSJ run out of credible writers that they need to resort to criminals for their content?

[Default]

The WSJ editorial page has been hard right for as long as I can remember. It kind of surprises me that the reporting itself is still balanced and professional.

[El Guapo]

The WSJ editorial page has been hard right ethically-questionable lunatics for as long as I can remember. It kind of surprises me that the reporting itself is still balanced and professional.

These are the same people who were writing "Hillary Clinton totally had Vince Foster murdered and probably shot him herself" pieces in the 90s. The news part was and is totally legit (and high quality). The op ed section is run by people who were Trumpists before there was Trump.

[Default]

In my defence, I hardly ever read the editorials because of the reason you mentioned.

[Smoove_B]

I know it's been a crazy week (North Korea, trade wars, Cohen tapes, etc...), but I'm rather surprised (or maybe not) that there isn't too much chatter about the message President Truck Nutz sent out this morning:

Why aren’t they firing no talent Samantha Bee for the horrible language used on her low ratings show? A total double standard but that’s O.K., we are Winning, and will be doing so for a long time to come!

That's...something. The President of the United States of America is just asking questions about why a private citizen isn't fired from her job. This is the new normal.

[Zaxxon]

I mean she called a woman a cunt. The President is on record calling various women un-fuckable, saying they should be grabbed by the pussy / moved on like a bitch, viewed pre-adulthood while changing by showrunners including Trump, etc etc et al. If she's gotta go, so does he.

Also, I'm pretty sure she's 100x as talented as he is, so she's got that going for her.

[LawBeefaroni]

I know it's been a crazy week (North Korea, trade wars, Cohen tapes, etc...), but I'm rather surprised (or maybe not) that there isn't too much chatter about the message President Truck Nutz sent out this morning:

Why aren’t they firing no talent Samantha Bee for the horrible language used on her low ratings show? A total double standard but that’s O.K., we are Winning, and will be doing so for a long time to come!

That's...something. The President of the United States of America is just asking questions about why a private citizen isn't fired from her job. This is the new normal.

He's using US foreign trade policy to get his daughter paid. Why wouldn't he use his bully pulpit to attack those who insult her?

[Smoove_B]

I guess I'm surprised mainly because he's not even trying to be coy about it. It's so bold in execution and it's seemingly just expected. I mean, people have been wondering where Melania is for 3 weeks now and he just points at an empty window. But someone makes a comment about Ivanka? Off to Twitter to ask questions. Every time I feel surprised I think about it for a few more seconds and then say, no, I guess I shouldn't be.

[LordMortis]

Trumpists before there was Trump.

This is what I've been trying to come to grips with. What you described is the sort of conspiracy writers going 40 years who by all rights should deplore Trump more than anyone. He's is everything they've spent their entire lives attacking. Underground dealings. Buddies with commies and international oligarchs. Shady banking and loans. Is a billionaire. Uses government to as a means to weaponize his business dealings and the list goes on. How did they make this leap? How are they standing their ground. You look at these old people and they're retired so it's not an illusion of their factory job and there is an earnest to their beliefs even as the medicaid they spent their entire lives paying into is being eyeballed openly again and again... and... I''m still trying to understand even if I have no empathy left for them. I'm still trying to understand. I just don't get it. This is not a victory against their fears and rage. It's the god damned total embodiment of it and they clinging to it like it's fresh water in the desert.

[Max Peck]

You could say that Samantha Bee just grabbed Trump by his (favorite) pussy.

[El Guapo]

Trumpists before there was Trump.

This is what I've been trying to come to grips with. What you described is the sort of conspiracy writers going 40 years who by all rights should deplore Trump more than anyone. He's is everything they've spent their entire lives attacking. Underground dealings. Buddies with commies and international oligarchs. Shady banking and loans. Is a billionaire. Uses government to as a means to weaponize his business dealings and the list goes on. How did they make this leap? How are they standing their ground. You look at these old people and they're retired so it's not an illusion of their factory job and there is an earnest to their beliefs even as the medicaid they spent their entire lives paying into is being eyeballed openly again and again... and... I''m still trying to understand even if I have no empathy left for them. I'm still trying to understand. I just don't get it. This is not a victory against their fears and rage. It's the god damned total embodiment of it and they clinging to it like it's fresh water in the desert.

It's not a conspiracy or any sort of long-term plan. But basically the WSJ op-ed page has been run by a mix of people who: (1) Are far right conservative lunatics who are willing to believe essentially anything negative about Democrats / liberals; (2) Political hacks who are willing to write or ignore specious arguments in service of hitting Democrats who they dislike for other reasons; (3) Quasi-bigots.

All three are fairly natural Trump supporters. Some portions of #2 have broken off, but that's about it.

[Isgrimnur]

And then there’s the phenomenon that people who are performing nefarious deeds are usually the first to accuse their opponents of them first.

[gilraen]

Free markets? What free markets?

Trump administration officials are making plans to order grid operators to buy electricity from struggling coal and nuclear plants in an effort to extend their life, a move that could represent an unprecedented intervention into U.S. energy markets.

To which Arnold Schwarzenegger tweeted: "I eagerly await the administration’s regulations protecting pagers, fax machines, and Blockbuster."

[Holman]

Free markets? What free markets?

Trump administration officials are making plans to order grid operators to buy electricity from struggling coal and nuclear plants in an effort to extend their life, a move that could represent an unprecedented intervention into U.S. energy markets.

To which Arnold Schwarzenegger tweeted: "I eagerly await the administration’s regulations protecting pagers, fax machines, and Blockbuster."

"America depends on Betamax! MAGA!"

[Smoove_B]

It's always nice to read that the President and Sean Hannity are having near-nightly phone calls that are possibly being intercepted by the Russians and/or Chinese.

This is the context in which today’s bombshell report in The Washington Post about the discovery of covert spying on smartphones in our nation’s capital should be viewed. Based on a report issued last year by the Department of Homeland Security, the Post story reveals that DHS found a plethora of secret devices in downtown Washington, near the White House and other sensitive federal government facilities, that were designed to intercept calls and texts from cell phones. Known as “IMSI catchers” in the spy business (from International Mobile Subscriber Identity, the usually 15-digit number assigned to every cell phone on earth), these are commonly used by intelligence agencies worldwide to track and intercept mobile communications.

...

And what targets they have! White House staffers use smartphones just like everyone else, and President Donald Trump is reportedly addicted to his. Trump has brought his reliance on his smartphone with him to the Oval Office, and although the Pentagon developed a more secure version for him to use, he isn’t using it. Ever since his inauguration, Trump reportedly has relied on his regular old personal Android phone to discuss matters of state with friends, cronies and even foreign leaders.

Again, this is normal.

[Alefroth]

It's always nice to read that the President and Sean Hannity are having near-nightly phone calls that are possibly being intercepted by the Russians and/or Chinese.

This is the context in which today’s bombshell report in The Washington Post about the discovery of covert spying on smartphones in our nation’s capital should be viewed. Based on a report issued last year by the Department of Homeland Security, the Post story reveals that DHS found a plethora of secret devices in downtown Washington, near the White House and other sensitive federal government facilities, that were designed to intercept calls and texts from cell phones. Known as “IMSI catchers” in the spy business (from International Mobile Subscriber Identity, the usually 15-digit number assigned to every cell phone on earth), these are commonly used by intelligence agencies worldwide to track and intercept mobile communications.

...

And what targets they have! White House staffers use smartphones just like everyone else, and President Donald Trump is reportedly addicted to his. Trump has brought his reliance on his smartphone with him to the Oval Office, and although the Pentagon developed a more secure version for him to use, he isn’t using it. Ever since his inauguration, Trump reportedly has relied on his regular old personal Android phone to discuss matters of state with friends, cronies and even foreign leaders.

Again, this is normal.

Meh, whaddya gonna do?

[GreenGoo]

I like the idea that Drumpf has a single thought in his head that he does not shout out to the world at large. It's funny.

[GungHo]

Trump Is Probing the Constitution for Weaknesses, and Finding Them.

Also mentions how Blago wrote a WSJ op-ed this week condemning the 'deep state'.

I didn't know that he had wrote that op-ed. That makes the connection even more menacing. We are in deep shit here and many people seem to not get what is happening. I don't understand.

They don't care because their side is "winning". Destroying the systems of governance because you happen to currently be in power is the ultimate STIGGINT, so they eat it up.

I can guarantee with 100% certainty that if it were a Democrat doing these same things, the wailing and howling from conservatives would be utterly deafening.

What I'm talking about is most people just feel that Trump isn't a great President -- totally missing the ever deepening degradation of rule of law and general political discourse. I've been reading SPQR and I can't help but feel like we are in the midst of a similar decline as the last 100 years of the Republic but over a period of say 40 years. Nixon probably will be seen as the beginning of it. Sure there were reforms but they didn't stop Trump from happening. The problem was constitutional. Perhaps this slide could have lead to "empire" but for the fact that there are far more competent (yet evil) competitors ready to take the lead on the world stage. We are living as the tragedy unfolds and most are somehow missing it.

I don't have an answer for you RE: the last 40 years however I do think part of the problem with this current administration is simply the volume of news that's coming out. We're getting in one day what would've taken weeks to come out in past administrations. And entire weeks often have as much legitimate news now as we'd get in 6 months in past times. I frequently ask people 'did you hear about X today?' And most of the time its no because they're still talking about what crazy thing happened 2 days ago that caught their attention. In lieu of other legitimate news I think we could honestly have filled whole news cycles based solely on trump's tweets. Now tho we have at least 5 other stories which are (crazily) more important than the actual words that the president of the United States of America said.
I think people go in one of 3 directions with this
1) they're totally on board and yeah trump could kill somebody in the middle of 5th Ave and they wouldn't care
2) you're outraged. Every thing this asshat does is, at best, remarkably stupid and at worst destroying the fabric of our country
3) throw your hands up and say I can't deal with all this negativity, from both sides. I've got kids, a job, a spouse, a mortgage payment, etc and I literally don't have the time to sort thru this endless volume of news to find the wheat in all the chaff.
The problem with the 3rd position is while I understand it unlike traditional times, i.e. The last 40 years or so, it isn't hard to find the wheat these days. It's practically vomited onto your devices/computers/pagers(assuming trump brings them back to help the economy). It's shocking and if you aren't a regular news consumer I could totally see how you could fall into believing the 'FAKE NEWS' gambit. This stuff that gets reported every day IS crazy. It's hard to believe this is our country now. But you don't get a pass just cuz you've got kids. Sorry. That sounds actually make you want to be that much more informed, not less.

[GungHo]

Trump Is Probing the Constitution for Weaknesses, and Finding Them.

Also mentions how Blago wrote a WSJ op-ed this week condemning the 'deep state'.

I didn't know that he had wrote that op-ed. That makes the connection even more menacing. We are in deep shit here and many people seem to not get what is happening. I don't understand.

They don't care because their side is "winning". Destroying the systems of governance because you happen to currently be in power is the ultimate STIGGINT, so they eat it up.

I can guarantee with 100% certainty that if it were a Democrat doing these same things, the wailing and howling from conservatives would be utterly deafening.

What I'm talking about is most people just feel that Trump isn't a great President -- totally missing the ever deepening degradation of rule of law and general political discourse. I've been reading SPQR and I can't help but feel like we are in the midst of a similar decline as the last 100 years of the Republic but over a period of say 40 years. Nixon probably will be seen as the beginning of it. Sure there were reforms but they didn't stop Trump from happening. The problem was constitutional. Perhaps this slide could have lead to "empire" but for the fact that there are far more competent (yet evil) competitors ready to take the lead on the world stage. We are living as the tragedy unfolds and most are somehow missing it.

I don't have an answer for you RE: the last 40 years however I do think part of the problem with this current administration is simply the volume of news that's coming out. We're getting in one day what would've taken weeks to come out in past administrations. And entire weeks often have as much legitimate news now as we'd get in 6 months in past times. I frequently ask people 'did you hear about X today?' And most of the time its no because they're still talking about what crazy thing happened 2 days ago that caught their attention. In lieu of other legitimate news I think we could honestly have filled whole news cycles based solely on trump's tweets. Now tho we have at least 5 other stories which are (crazily) more important than the actual words that the president of the United States of America said.
I think people go in one of 3 directions with this
1) they're totally on board and yeah trump could kill somebody in the middle of 5th Ave and they wouldn't care
2) you're outraged. Every thing this asshat does is, at best, remarkably stupid and at worst destroying the fabric of our country
3) throw your hands up and say I can't deal with all this negativity, from both sides. I've got kids, a job, a spouse, a mortgage payment, etc and I literally don't have the time to sort thru this endless volume of news to find the wheat in all the chaff.
The problem with the 3rd position is while I understand it unlike traditional times, i.e. The last 40 years or so, it isn't hard to find the wheat these days. It's practically vomited onto your devices/computers/pagers(assuming trump brings them back to help the economy). It's shocking and if you aren't a regular news consumer I could totally see how you could fall into believing the 'FAKE NEWS' gambit. This stuff that gets reported every day IS crazy. It's hard to believe this is our country now. But you don't get a pass just cuz you've got kids. Sorry. That sounds actually make you want to be that much more informed, not less.

[Pyperkub]

Free markets? What free markets?

Trump administration officials are making plans to order grid operators to buy electricity from struggling coal and nuclear plants in an effort to extend their life, a move that could represent an unprecedented intervention into U.S. energy markets.

To which Arnold Schwarzenegger tweeted: "I eagerly await the administration’s regulations protecting pagers, fax machines, and Blockbuster."

"America depends on Betamax! MAGA!"

The Russians are probably conferenced in automatically?

[Isgrimnur]

Trump tips the jobs report:

President Donald Trump broke a long-standing rule Friday morning when he hinted in a tweet that the unemployment report coming out 69 minutes later would be strong. (It was.) But analysts missed the point when they criticized Trump: It’s a much bigger deal than just potential insider trading.

Most of the hot takes written about this violation argue that Trump’s tweet could have corrupted the financial system. The jobs report is classified information that government officials swear to carefully protect until its release to the public at a pre-determined time, so that everyone has the market-moving information at the precisely the same time.

To put this into a little context, the government launched an investigation when it was revealed that some media organizations were able to get this information to traders a few thousandths of a second before their rivals could. It was a big deal when Bloomberg and others did it a nanosecond early, and it’s a big deal when the president of the United States does it an hour early.
...
Could Trump have blurted out the fact that the unemployment rate fell to 3.8% during one of his notorious late-night phone calls to a wealthy friend, benefactor or Fox News pundit? Perhaps he told his good friend, President Xi Jinping of China? Or his good friend, Carl Icahn?

Someone could have made a killing in the market from Trump’s leak. Most likely, we’ll never know.
...
But these rules were not put in place primarily to protect the integrity of financial markets, but to protect the integrity of government statistical data from misuse and abuse by politicians. These rules aren’t there to protect Wall Street traders who don’t follow Trump on Twitter, but to protect our democracy from the manipulations of politicians.
...
The rules that Trump stomped on Friday date back to the early 1970s, after the administration of President Richard Nixon attempted to politicize the reporting of the monthly unemployment and inflation numbers. Nixon ranted in private about statisticians in the BLS who wouldn’t spin the numbers his way: “He is an all-out son of a bitch who has been against us for 20 years. We have to be tough on this. We are running the government,” the Nixon tapes showed. Nixon nearly succeeded in destroying the integrity of the BLS (along with a lot else).
...
Importantly, no political official is allowed to comment on the data publicly until they have been in the public domain for at least one hour. With a few exceptions, no administration official has violated this rule. Until Trump did it a year ago, and then again today more flagrantly.

[Holman]

Economists have been seething about this on Twitter. It's a violation of norms that has a genuine impact on markets and will continue to do so every time a new report is expected.

I'm no economist, but as I understand it the whole point of radio silence is to avoid adding irrational or even political input into the system. By bragging before the release, Trump obviously signaled that the report was strong, essentially telling people to buy. More than this, though, the next report that comes out will be attended by Trump-watching that could also affect markets unduly: "The WH had the report last night, but Trump has been silent. SELL!!"

Of course restraint is too much to ask of this corrupt administration. Who knows what else they're doing to monetize inside information?

[Skinypupy]

This was a really interesting Twitter thread about Trump's economic philosophy...and why we're all screwed.

Starts here: https://twitter.com/fawfulfan/status/10 ... 9367837702

Believe it or not, Trump's insane proclamation that he will keep tariffs in place until there are no more Mercedes on Fifth Avenue gave me a moment of clarity.

I think I finally understand Trump's economic philosophy now. And we are absolutely screwed.

The one thing that you need to understand about Trump is that he is, at his core, a con man with no empathy.

Therefore, he assumes that all other people are also con men with no empathy, and every exchange of goods and services that exists in the world is, on some level, a con.

Trump assumes every transaction in the world — between people, businesses, nation-states, even between two different agencies of the same government — has a winner and a loser, a scammer and a sucker. He believes if you're not ripping someone off, you're getting ripped off.

From an economist's perspective, this is complete nonsense. Unless there are major information asymmetries or distortions of market power, and often even then, most transactions are generally to the mutual benefit of both parties.
Otherwise no deals would ever get made.

But Trump — the man who created a fake university, made stiffed contractors, hired the mob, and filed for bankruptcy six times — cannot believe his.

So he goes out of his way to cherrypick how he sees the world, so that everything we do looks like either a ripoff or a steal.

It's not simply that Trump *doesn't* think the Paris Climate Agreement, Iran nuclear deal, TPP, NAFTA, or luxury cars from Germany are a good deal for America. It's that he *can't* think that.

It's an alien concept to him that a deal other people want with us could also help us.

To Trump's mind, the mere fact other countries sought out these deals with us, and that their own economies benefit, is unassailable proof we got ripped off.

He can't see the evidence they helped us too. His mind will only cherry-pick potential ways it could be bad for us.

This is why Trump will never, ever, be able to negotiate with the rest of the world. He doesn't believe in mutual benefit.

The second anyone tells him "this is your end of the deal" he'll rip it up. He believes only one party can have an end of the deal, and it shouldn't be him.

So folks, I hate to tell you this, but he's only getting started.

He will forego billions, maybe trillions, of dollars in world trade. He will forego bilateral security agreements. And if he ever gets something from another nation it will be by force.

As I said: we're screwed.

And we're not just screwed on foreign policy, but domestic. This explains his behavior over DACA, spiking two bipartisan deals even though they were what he asked for.

He assumed if Democrats were willing to talk, his deal wasn't ripping them off, ergo it would rip him off.

That implies if Democrats win Congress, we are going to enter an all-out legislative standstill like we've never before seen.

Our system is entirely reliant on compromise and compromise isn't compatible with Trump's beliefs. We will struggle to pass even basic reauthorizations.

So yeah: our nightmare is not going to end until we get this pathological con man out of office.

He is not just bad at being president, he has a defective way of seeing the world that is not compatible with being president.

And we will pay for it.

I've thought for a long time now that the inability to compromise will ultimately be our downfall. It's become even worse now, since even the smallest measure of compromise is framed as the worst possible kind of weakness, and the low information, most tribal part of our society absolutely eats that shit up.

I can't help but feel that when we steadfastly refuse to operate from an abundance mindset and find solutions that mutually benefit people/parties/countries, this downward spiral will continue to get worse and worse.

[GreenGoo]

Shrug. The first time I heard someone suggest that if it wasn't for his father's millions he'd be a street hustler (and not a very good one) selling counterfeit watches it resonated with me.

That is exactly what he is. Everything else flows from that. He is a broken, shell of a man who won the sperm lottery at birth and if it weren't for that he'd be trying to grift people with decades old cons that he thought were clever but everyone else (except for republicans, I guess?) saw them as tired, simplistic and insulting.

I'm getting tired of these "revelations". All this stuff was well known years ago by anyone paying attention. That people are "having a moment of clarity" a year and a half after electing this piece of human garbage is just as enraging as having the human garbage as the president.

The idea that enough people are willing to troll their fellow citizens by burning down the country is appalling. I hope they choke on the fumes, but not before Drumpf harvests their organs to give to people who say nice things about him.

[Skinypupy]

It’s not a “revelation” to anyone. I just found it to be an interesting, succinct summary of something we’ve all known for a long time now.

YMMV, apparently.

[GreenGoo]

It’s not a “revelation” to anyone. I just found it to be an interesting, succinct summary of something we’ve all known for a long time now.

YMMV, apparently.

It's clearly a "revelation" to the author. He seemed both surprised and excited by his "moment of clarity" and thought it worth sharing.

[Pyperkub]

This was a really interesting Twitter thread about Trump's economic philosophy...and why we're all screwed.

Starts here: https://twitter.com/fawfulfan/status/10 ... 9367837702

Believe it or not, Trump's insane proclamation that he will keep tariffs in place until there are no more Mercedes on Fifth Avenue gave me a moment of clarity.

I think I finally understand Trump's economic philosophy now. And we are absolutely screwed.

The one thing that you need to understand about Trump is that he is, at his core, a con man with no empathy.

Therefore, he assumes that all other people are also con men with no empathy, and every exchange of goods and services that exists in the world is, on some level, a con.

Trump assumes every transaction in the world — between people, businesses, nation-states, even between two different agencies of the same government — has a winner and a loser, a scammer and a sucker. He believes if you're not ripping someone off, you're getting ripped off.

From an economist's perspective, this is complete nonsense. Unless there are major information asymmetries or distortions of market power, and often even then, most transactions are generally to the mutual benefit of both parties.
Otherwise no deals would ever get made.

But Trump — the man who created a fake university, made stiffed contractors, hired the mob, and filed for bankruptcy six times — cannot believe his.

So he goes out of his way to cherrypick how he sees the world, so that everything we do looks like either a ripoff or a steal.

It's not simply that Trump *doesn't* think the Paris Climate Agreement, Iran nuclear deal, TPP, NAFTA, or luxury cars from Germany are a good deal for America. It's that he *can't* think that.

It's an alien concept to him that a deal other people want with us could also help us.

To Trump's mind, the mere fact other countries sought out these deals with us, and that their own economies benefit, is unassailable proof we got ripped off.

He can't see the evidence they helped us too. His mind will only cherry-pick potential ways it could be bad for us.

This is why Trump will never, ever, be able to negotiate with the rest of the world. He doesn't believe in mutual benefit.

The second anyone tells him "this is your end of the deal" he'll rip it up. He believes only one party can have an end of the deal, and it shouldn't be him.

So folks, I hate to tell you this, but he's only getting started.

He will forego billions, maybe trillions, of dollars in world trade. He will forego bilateral security agreements. And if he ever gets something from another nation it will be by force.

As I said: we're screwed.

And we're not just screwed on foreign policy, but domestic. This explains his behavior over DACA, spiking two bipartisan deals even though they were what he asked for.

He assumed if Democrats were willing to talk, his deal wasn't ripping them off, ergo it would rip him off.

That implies if Democrats win Congress, we are going to enter an all-out legislative standstill like we've never before seen.

Our system is entirely reliant on compromise and compromise isn't compatible with Trump's beliefs. We will struggle to pass even basic reauthorizations.

So yeah: our nightmare is not going to end until we get this pathological con man out of office.

He is not just bad at being president, he has a defective way of seeing the world that is not compatible with being president.

And we will pay for it.

I've thought for a long time now that the inability to compromise will ultimately be our downfall. It's become even worse now, since even the smallest measure of compromise is framed as the worst possible kind of weakness, and the low information, most tribal part of our society absolutely eats that shit up.

I can't help but feel that when we steadfastly refuse to operate from an abundance mindset and find solutions that mutually benefit people/parties/countries, this downward spiral will continue to get worse and worse.

He's a symptom of that same zero sum game the GOP has been playing since DeLay and the GOP envisioned the K-Street project. He just epitomizes it better than the other GOP candidates did. See Sarah Palin.

[Carpet_pissr]

Maybe someone can slip “A Beautiful Mind” into Trump’s Netflix queue.

[Holman]

Because prominent Eagles support taking a knee, Trump has disinvited the Superbowl champions from the traditional White House visit.

https://twitter.com/markknoller/status/ ... 4046417920

I have lived in Philadelphia for 17 years, but as a polite Southerner I have always had some misgivings about the city's style.

No longer. I've never been more proud to be a Philly guy. Fuck this White House.

[YellowKing]

No amount of money, gifts, or smooth talk would ever get me to accept an invitation to Trump's White House. Hell, the only reason I'd get off the couch to answer the door for him is to tell him to go fuck himself.

[Default]

Because prominent Eagles support taking a knee, Trump has disinvited the Superbowl champions from the traditional White House visit.

https://twitter.com/markknoller/status/ ... 4046417920

I have lived in Philadelphia for 17 years, but as a polite Southerner I have always had some misgivings about the city's style.

No longer. I've never been more proud to be a Philly guy. Fuck this White House.

Lol, I knew you'd come around.

[Holman]

[LawBeefaroni]

So because some Eagles wouldn't attend he said none of them could? And he uses the military heroism of others as cover for his hurty feelings?

We are watching an egotistical dictator ascend to power.

[LordMortis]

If nothing else, that settles that. If I watch the NFL this year, I'm now Jets fan. I wall only watch 49ers or Jets games. Anyone who voted for the President's NFL can kiss my ass.

[Unagi]

Because prominent Eagles support taking a knee, Trump has disinvited the Superbowl champions from the traditional White House visit.

https://twitter.com/markknoller/status/ ... 4046417920

I have lived in Philadelphia for 17 years, but as a polite Southerner I have always had some misgivings about the city's style.

No longer. I've never been more proud to be a Philly guy. Fuck this White House.

Seriously!

And - what a remarkably WRONG position for that WH memo to proclaim.
"They disagree with their President because he insists that they proudly stand for the...."


W hat
T he
F uck

Clearly this administration stand for NOTHING if not TOTAL ALLEGIANCE. It blatant and should be terrifying to everyone. Could you imagine a White House ever saying the words "They disagree with their Presidenct" as a prelude TO ANY THING.


WHAT THE FUCK!

[Unagi]

(I apologize for any SIMILARITY to a Trump post there)

[Holman]

I just read that fewer than 10 players were planning to attend the WH ceremony.

[Blackhawk]

No amount of money, gifts, or smooth talk would ever get me to accept an invitation to Trump's White House. Hell, the only reason I'd get off the couch to answer the door for him is to tell him to go fuck himself.

I would accept this invitation.

And then I'd take a knee.

[Scoop20906]

No amount of money, gifts, or smooth talk would ever get me to accept an invitation to Trump's White House. Hell, the only reason I'd get off the couch to answer the door for him is to tell him to go fuck himself.

I would accept this invitation.

And then I'd take a knee.

BOW BEFORE ZOD.


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[Alefroth]

Because prominent Eagles support taking a knee, Trump has disinvited the Superbowl champions from the traditional White House visit.

https://twitter.com/markknoller/status/ ... 4046417920

I have lived in Philadelphia for 17 years, but as a polite Southerner I have always had some misgivings about the city's style.

No longer. I've never been more proud to be a Philly guy. Fuck this White House.

Seriously!

And - what a remarkably WRONG position for that WH memo to proclaim.
"They disagree with their President because he insists that they proudly stand for the...."


W hat
T he
F uck

Clearly this administration stand for NOTHING if not TOTAL ALLEGIANCE. It blatant and should be terrifying to everyone. Could you imagine a White House ever saying the words "They disagree with their Presidenct" as a prelude TO ANY THING.


WHAT THE FUCK!

Man I hope some of those fans take a knee.