The Former Trump Presidency Thread

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:30 pm

Sepiche wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:54 pm Taking people's children without due process for a misdemeanor or for no reason whatsoever is simply immoral.

It not immoral if they are subhuman animals. That's why you don't need to get people to change their core morality, just who they consider animals.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:32 pm

That is a serious party.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:09 am

GreenGoo wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:32 pm That is a serious party.

We assume the parade, not the changing of core morality.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:02 am

hepcat wrote:While I lay the blame for the current clime of hostility firmly at the feet of the Mangerine, I also don't feel adapting his style is going to help the cause of anti-orange.

It's still fox, rush, et al who created the climate of hate. Trump is just taking advantage of the foundation of hate they (and others) have been laying for decades. President Palin would be just about the same.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:27 am

Unagi wrote: Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:59 pm
Skinypupy wrote: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:54 pm So, the White House's government consolidation plan is out and...oh. Oh no. Read it for yourself here.

Some "highlights" of the plan can be found in this thread, starting here.

https://twitter.com/Laurie_Garrett/stat ... 3985792000

The single most critical question I have is: Can the next president undo this shit easily...?

Why would the Honey Boo-Boo/Joe the Plumber administration want to undo all this winning?

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:29 am

Pyperkub wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:02 am
hepcat wrote:While I lay the blame for the current clime of hostility firmly at the feet of the Mangerine, I also don't feel adapting his style is going to help the cause of anti-orange.
It's still fox, rush, et al who created the climate of hate. Trump is just taking advantage of the foundation of hate they (and others) have been laying for decades.

Completely agree. Jon Stewart called them on it too, many years ago when he told them to their faces they were destroying the country with their lies and bullshit and hatemongering style. As much as I enjoy piling on Trump whenever possible, this is not on him.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:40 pm

Trump: US Steel is opening six major facilities and expanding others.

US Steel: Wait...we're doing what now?

"The head of U.S. Steel called me the other day, and he said, 'We're opening up six major facilities and expanding facilities that have never been expanded.' They haven't been opened in many, many years."- President Donald Trump, roundtable with American workers, Duluth, Minnesota, June 20, 2018

The Facts

President Trump has a tendency to cite conversations that did not occur quite the way he describes them - if they took place at all. So we were a bit suspicious when he mentioned a phone conversation with Dave Burritt, chief executive of U.S. Steel.

Burritt did take part in a roundtable in March at the White House, and in May the president appeared to reference that meeting.

But then, on June 20, the conversation became a phone call. On June 26, Trump suggested that the news was disclosed in a public announcement.

One would think this would be easy to clear up. But the White House did not respond to a query. Burritt also did not respond to an email from The Fact Checker asking him to confirm the conversation.

Meghan M. Cox, U.S. Steel's spokeswoman, simply offered this response: "To answer your question, we post all of our major operational announcements to our website and report them on earnings calls. Our most recent one pertained to our Granite City 'A' blast furnace restart."

Translation: The president is wrong. But apparently U.S. Steel is afraid to say that out loud.

tjg_marantz · Post by **tjg_marantz** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:20 pm

As long as you get the turnout you're getting down there, this is going to keep happening.

And fuck people who both sides this shit. Your in a culture war and the forces of good are losing.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:42 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote:
Pyperkub wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:02 am
hepcat wrote:While I lay the blame for the current clime of hostility firmly at the feet of the Mangerine, I also don't feel adapting his style is going to help the cause of anti-orange.
It's still fox, rush, et al who created the climate of hate. Trump is just taking advantage of the foundation of hate they (and others) have been laying for decades.
Completely agree. Jon Stewart called them on it too, many years ago when he told them to their faces they were destroying the country with their lies and bullshit and hatemongering style. As much as I enjoy piling on Trump whenever possible, this is not on him.

Well, it is to the extent that he is making it much, much worse her deserves it.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:04 am

In a rare bought of good news on the Trump Front.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2018/0 ... -and-more/

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:37 am

LordMortis wrote: Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:04 am In a rare bought of good news on the Trump Front.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2018/0 ... -and-more/

It's another name for privitization.

If, as Trump says, it's "less expensive for the us" (the government), I'm skeptical. I'm going to get a brief on this at work but right now it looks like kicking the can.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:46 pm

He lies about everything. It's an insult to every one of us.

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1 ... 5426050048
link

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1012769236786262017
link

https://twitter.com/HuffPostPol/status/ ... 8591124480
link

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:18 pm

Why stop making things up now? It got him this far.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:30 pm

If you assume that everything out of his mouth is a lie, you will be right ~70% of the time (politifact) -- and that's not including his half-truths. If you disbelieve everything he says, you'll only be wrong 17% of the time.

GungHo · Post by **GungHo** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:21 am

Kraken wrote: Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:30 pm If you assume that everything out of his mouth is a lie, you will be right ~70% of the time (politifact) -- and that's not including his half-truths. If you disbelieve everything he says, you'll only be wrong 17% of the time.

That's obviously the very definition of 'deplorable' so I won't say I'm surprised particularly as I listen to quite a bit of it every day. But it is definitely remarkable and it's definitely hurting the country. I feel a bit like I imagine Germans felt in the 30s. 'Oh yeah this sucks but eventually he's gonna do something we all realize is crackers, and he's out.'. Cept that never happened.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:00 pm

Trump supporters are fantastic. You can lie straight to their face and they'll believe you. They're tomorrow's Morlocks.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:55 am

hepcat wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:00 pmThey're tomorrow's Morlocks.

How's it feel to be the Eloi?

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:40 am

It's frustrating. I don't care if I agreed with someone's politics 110% - if they're that pathological liar, I'm not going to support them out of principle. The fact that so many Republicans are wiling to turn a blind eye to it is disgusting.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:23 am

Paingod wrote: Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:55 am
hepcat wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:00 pmThey're tomorrow's Morlocks.
How's it feel to be the Eloi?

Whoops...I screwed up my literary reference.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:40 pm

Raise your hand if you are surprised:

President Donald Trump's most recent financial disclosure reveals that in 2017 the first lady earned at least $100,000 from Getty Images for the use of any of a series of 187 photos of the first family shot between 2010 and 2016 by Belgian photographer Regine Mahaux.

It's not unheard of for celebrities to earn royalties from photos of themselves, but it's very unusual for the wife of a currently serving elected official. More problematic for the many news organizations that have published or broadcast the images, however, is that Getty's licensing agreement stipulates the pictures can be used in "positive stories only."

According to the revenue statement in President Trump's May financial disclosure, Melania Trump earned between $100,000 and $1,000,000 in photo royalties in 2017 from the Getty deal.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:18 pm

And the news now is that Trump is intending to meet Putin...1 on 1...alone...again.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:28 pm

malchior wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:18 pm And the news now is that Trump is intending to meet Putin...1 on 1...alone...again.

I think Putin has access to that tracking device we saw in Kingsman: The Golden Circle. This should end well.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:37 pm

WaPo

The Trump administration is moving to rescind Obama-era guidance to colleges and universities on how they can use race in admissions decisions to promote diversity, according to an administration official.

The action, expected Tuesday afternoon, is likely to signal a push to emphasize admissions that are race-blind. The Supreme Court has upheld race-conscious admission practices as recently as 2016, but affirmative action in higher education remains a contentious issue.

In 2011 and 2016, the Obama administration’s Justice and Education departments jointly spelled out for colleges their view of the law on the voluntary use of race in admissions.

The 2011 statement said the departments “recognize the compelling interest that postsecondary institutions have in obtaining the benefits that flow from achieving a diverse student body.” It went on to assert that schools have flexibility “to take proactive steps, in a manner consistent with principles articulated in Supreme Court opinions, to meet this compelling interest.”

The Obama-era documents replaced a 2008 letter on the subject from the Bush administration. Now it appears that the Trump administration is about to assert its own views. A Justice Department spokesman said an announcement was imminent.

Opponents of affirmative action said they were heartened.

I'm sure this will be the reasoned, equal opportunity policy that everyone has been waiting for.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:00 pm

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 7945176071

Trump wrote:After having written many best selling books, and somewhat priding myself on my ability to write, it should be noted that the Fake News constantly likes to pour over my tweets looking for a mistake. I capitalize certain words only for emphasis, not b/c they should be capitalized!

"Pore." The verb he wants is "pore."

This idiot.

(And he brought this on himself, as all of his books were ghostwritten.)

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:18 pm

Holman wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:00 pm(And he brought this on himself, as all of his books were ghostwritten.)

And so is that tweet.

Biyobi · Post by **Biyobi** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:19 pm

Holman wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:00 pm https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 7945176071

Trump wrote:After having written many best selling books, and somewhat priding myself on my ability to write, it should be noted that the Fake News constantly likes to pour over my tweets looking for a mistake. I capitalize certain words only for emphasis, not b/c they should be capitalized!

"Pore." The verb he wants is "pore."

This idiot.

Actually, he has it right, doesn't he? A "pore" is one of those little holes in your skin.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:21 pm

It's an old definition of pore and it is only used in that expression these days.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:24 pm

I can’t fault him for this one; I would’ve made the same mistake!

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:28 pm

Biyobi wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:19 pm Actually, he has it right, doesn't he? A "pore" is one of those little holes in your skin.

To closely examine something is to "pore over" it.

"Pour over" has an obviously different meaning. No educated writer would confuse them.

I could forgive the slip in a casual context. In a claim that he is a successful and effective writer, it's ridiculous and sad.

Actual writers proofread, edit, and think. It's likely Trump has never done any of these.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:59 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:I can’t fault him for this one; I would of made the same mistake!

FTFY

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:25 pm

The tweet is especially ridiculous since it's widely known that he's always used ghost writers. But we're obviously not the target audience for that tweet. As always, it's for his fanatics, who take everything he says at face value and don't question any of it.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:26 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:59 pm
Ralph-Wiggum wrote:I can’t fault him for this one; I would of made the same mistake!
FTFY

You cheeky bastard.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:37 pm

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:16 pm

The original tweet was deleted because we pored over it and saw he's an idiot.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:39 pm

Chaz wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:25 pm The tweet is especially ridiculous since it's widely known that he's always used ghost writers. But we're obviously not the target audience for that tweet. As always, it's for his fanatics, who take everything he says at face value and don't question any of it.

Everything that he says is for his base. Their support was enough to bring him to power and it's enough to cow Congress -- he doesn't need or care about anybody else, but he has to keep them whipped up. We are only his target audience when he's trying to divide or distract us.

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:40 pm

The fact that he had to delete and repost a corrected version of the tweet where he complains about people looking for mistakes in his magnificent writing is just /chef kiss.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:48 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:24 pm I can’t fault him for this one; I would’ve made the same mistake!

generally, I would as well, but I wouldn't do it while I'm bragging about writing skillz being better than journalists who have never written so many best selling books wherein I claim to be the best at writing, whereas Fake News can't see my leet tweet "meant to do that" form of button mashing.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:00 am

https://twitter.com/abdutoit/status/1012121594045587456

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:28 am

Chaz wrote:The fact that he had to delete and repost a corrected version of the tweet where he complains about people looking for mistakes in his magnificent writing is just /chef kiss.

As is the fact that the corrected tweet still has an error.

Also:

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:20 am

I'm dense, what's the mistake in the second version?