The Former Trump Presidency Thread

[Pyperkub]

Whoa...times are really bad when Canadians start fighting with each other.

Goo is actually short for Goose.

If that's the case, then I believe the color is wrong!

[Isgrimnur]

Whoa...times are really bad when Canadians start fighting with each other.

Goo is actually short for Goose.

If that's the case, then I believe the color is wrong!

You don’t know where he’s been.

[GreenGoo]

Or the things I've seen!

But there is no fight. I felt like max implied people were missing the important part, I didn't think anyone was. He thinks I was criticizing his observations but it was only the implied criticism I was referencing.

Also, he likes coffee, I guess?

Personally I don't drink coffee, but equally unrelated I like stretching my eyes like so

All that aside, hepcat is right. Times are bad. Unless you're a fan of Apocalypse Now. I hear from sources pretty high up that it's a good movie. And the guy who plays Agent Orange? Phenomenal.

[Pyperkub]

I was just thinking Grey Goose on a Friday

[Daehawk]

I find myself wondering yet again....I and most other people have known Fox News to be useless and fake news for at least the last 20 years yet Trump thinks they are the only one to listen to. WTF is wrong with that boy?

[GreenGoo]

I find myself wondering yet again....I and most other people have known Fox News to be useless and fake news for at least the last 20 years yet Trump thinks they are the only one to listen to. WTF is wrong with that boy?

My memory is fuzzy but isn't Fox News the highest rated (i.e. most watched) news channel? As in "most people" have a different opinion of Fox News than you do, Daehawk.

The value of Fox News as a news source is also debatable. Fox & Friends is not Fox News, for example.

[Pyperkub]

I find myself wondering yet again....I and most other people have known Fox News to be useless and fake news for at least the last 20 years yet Trump thinks they are the only one to listen to. WTF is wrong with that boy?

My memory is fuzzy but isn't Fox News the highest rated (i.e. most watched) news channel? As in "most people" have a different opinion of Fox News than you do, Daehawk.

The value of Fox News as a news source is also debatable. Fox & Friends is not Fox News, for example.

Popular music isn't always good music, and Hannity is fox news highest rated program, so yes, Fox and friends is fox news.

[GreenGoo]

Ok, sure, but then the op-ed page of your local paper is also news.

Perhaps it was my mistake in believing daehawk was talking about their news reporting.

There are plenty of shows on Fox News that are not news.

Crossfire on CNN was also not news.

Again, perhaps I misunderstood Daehawk.

As for popularity, that kind of counters daehawks statement about "most people" don't you think?

[Holman]

The Hill: DOJ lawyers seek to stop release of Trump financial records.

DOJ lawyers argued that conducting discovery, including the release of the financial records on Trump and his properties, on a sitting president could trigger “significant separation-of-powers concerns.”

“Moreover, the public interest is decidedly in favor of a stay because any discovery would necessarily be a distraction to the President’s performance of his constitutional duties,” the document states.

Officials in Maryland and D.C. have sought financial records on Trump and his properties. They argue, as alleged in the lawsuit, that Trump has personally benefitted from his presidency and is harming other competing businesses.

Do I get this right? DOJ is arguing that investigating emoluments (a word most of us only know because of the Constitution) would "be a distraction to the President’s performance of his constitutional duties"?

[Zaxxon]

That might be a cogent argument, you know, if the President was actually performing his constitutional duties...

[GungHo]

Do I get this right? DOJ is arguing that investigating emoluments (a word most of us only know because of the Constitution) would "be a distraction to the President’s performance of his constitutional duties"?

Seems that way to me....which seems insane. What's the point of having an emoluments clause if you aren't allowed to find out if the president is violating it or not?
Even if there is some way of law-splaining this, it just doesn't make sense. This and the idea you can't indict a sitting president are just breathtakingly stupid IMHO

[milo]

I assume that the legal argument is that the constitution only provides for one check on the executive, and that's the legislature. Random citizens cannot sue the president, nor force discovery. If congress requests documents from the office of the president, the president can claim executive privilege, and congress can accept that or not. The courts might weigh in with an opinion on whether the claim of executive privilege is justified or not. But in the end, it is up to congress to impeach and convict the president for any illegal actions committed while in office.

[GungHo]

I assume that the legal argument is that the constitution only provides for one check on the executive, and that's the legislature. Random citizens cannot sue the president, nor force discovery. If congress requests documents from the office of the president, the president can claim executive privilege, and congress can accept that or not. The courts might weigh in with an opinion on whether the claim of executive privilege is justified or not. But in the end, it is up to congress to impeach and convict the president for any illegal actions committed while in office.

But maybe the framers didn't feel like they needed to include the fact that the president still isn't allowed to commit crimes because, well, duh.
I'm not quibbling with your information, that's what I've heard before as well, and obviously I'm no constitutional scholar but IMHO I feel like these guys(framers) were in the midst of revolting against a king they absolutely despised. It doesn't seem like they would have wanted anyone in their new government, ESPECIALLY the dude at the top of the ladder, to be above the law. I'm down with not having Random Citizen X bringing lawsuits vs the president and I'm good with there being special rules and laws that govern how we investigate, charge, and try presidents(impeaching and removing from office via the House and Senate doesn't count, as there should be more of a punishment for say, murder, than simply losing your job). But I'll be disgusted beyond words if it turns out I've been living in a country that's been run by kings for nearly 250 years.

[LawBeefaroni]

I'm sure one of the selling points to Trump on the whole presdency thing was a reboot of his financial criminal past.

[Holman]

But maybe the framers didn't feel like they needed to include the fact that the president still isn't allowed to commit crimes because, well, duh.
I'm not quibbling with your information, that's what I've heard before as well, and obviously I'm no constitutional scholar but IMHO I feel like these guys(framers) were in the midst of revolting against a king they absolutely despised. It doesn't seem like they would have wanted anyone in their new government, ESPECIALLY the dude at the top of the ladder, to be above the law. I'm down with not having Random Citizen X bringing lawsuits vs the president and I'm good with there being special rules and laws that govern how we investigate, charge, and try presidents(impeaching and removing from office via the House and Senate doesn't count, as there should be more of a punishment for say, murder, than simply losing your job). But I'll be disgusted beyond words if it turns out I've been living in a country that's been run by kings for nearly 250 years.

The Founders were terrified of the coming of a despot, and they wrote extensively about it. Their only formal models for a functioning democracy were the Greek and Roman examples, and their educations taught them that despotism was the natural end of any democracy that succumbed to corruption. They knew what they were up against.

They just never imagined a majority party willing to abdicate its responsibility to check the despot. So here we are.

[Daehawk]

I like this guy. He really says it as it is..the truth that Trump supporters cannot understand.

Former Fox analyst Ralph Peters: Fox viewers have 'utterly skewed view of reality

Peters, a retired US Army lieutenant colonel, was a Fox military analyst until March, when he resigned and burned the proverbial bridge. In a letter to his colleagues, he accused Fox of "assaulting our constitutional order and the rule of law."

Peters' statements shocked the TV news industry at the time.

On CNN's "Reliable Sources" on Sunday, he had more to say. "People that only listen to Fox have an utterly skewed view of reality," he said. He described the relationship between the president and his favored news network as a "closed loop," but that was hardly Peters' most strident critique of his former employer.

"Fox isn't immoral, it's amoral," he said. Later in the interview, when Reliable Sources aired clips that show Fox News hosts defending Trump's decision to strip former CIA director John Brennan's security clearance, Peters was asked if he thought his colleagues at Fox are "proud of their performance."

"The polite word is 'prostitutes,' so I'll just leave it at that," Peters fired back.

Peters garnered attention on Sunday for his stunning denunciation of Trump.

[Holman]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 0719403009

Just watched former Intelligence Official Phillip Mudd become totally unglued and weird while debating wonderful @PARISDENNARD over Brennan’s Security Clearance. Dennard destroyed him but Mudd is in no mental condition to have such a Clearance. Should be REVOKED? @seanhannity

Authoritarian punishment of critics is now just straight-up red meat for the base.

[Paingod]

Was he asking Hannity if he should revoke? Will Hannity answer?

[Carpet_pissr]

[LawBeefaroni]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 0719403009

Just watched former Intelligence Official Phillip Mudd become totally unglued and weird while debating wonderful @PARISDENNARD over Brennan’s Security Clearance. Dennard destroyed him but Mudd is in no mental condition to have such a Clearance. Should be REVOKED? @seanhannity

Authoritarian punishment of critics is now just straight-up red meat for the base.

He loves lording security clearances over everyone. Any tool he finds to be a petulant shitgoblin he'll exploit the hell out of.

[GreenGoo]

Shitgoblin.



It's like he's trolling me personally every single day.

I have never wished so much ill on an individual before. Not even those who have wronged me personally.

[coopasonic]

It's like he's trolling me personally every single day.

I have never wished so much ill on an individual before. Not even those who have wronged me personally.

You should try living on this side of the border... in a red state.

Actually, I wouldn't recommend it.

[GreenGoo]

It's like he's trolling me personally every single day.

I have never wished so much ill on an individual before. Not even those who have wronged me personally.

You should try living on this side of the border... in a red state.

Actually, I wouldn't recommend it.

Believe me, I understand that he's far away. I feel for you, brotherman.

[Blackhawk]

Thank you, Mr. President.

Today the swamp feels a tiny bit drained.

[Jaymann]

Thank you, Mr. President.

Today the swamp feels a tiny bit drained.

On page 404 no less.

[Pyperkub]

Thank you, Mr. President.

Today the swamp feels a tiny bit drained.

Nah, I'm pretty sure you just can't see it through the coal haze...

The Trump administration on Tuesday made public the details of its new pollution rules governing coal-burning power plants, and the fine print includes an acknowledgment that the plan would increase carbon emissions and lead to up to 1,400 premature deaths annually.

[Blackhawk]

Oddly enough, the headline on Fox News is that an immigrant in Iowa killed someone.

[Carpet_pissr]

That’s actually par for the course, considering it’s Fox. Or did I fail my sarcasm saving throw?

[Max Peck]

If you're curious about how well Trump is handling the Cohen/Manafort verdicts, the Washington Post is streaming his rally on Twitch.

[YellowKing]

Watching now. The Twitch comments are hilarious. "Build a Space Wall to keep out the Space Mexicans!"

[Unagi]

Whoa, Rolling Stones let him use their music? Hows that work?

Odd song to pick.

'You can't always get what you want'... was that just WP playing that?

[Blackhawk]

That’s actually par for the course, considering it’s Fox. Or did I fail my sarcasm saving throw?

It was, but you didn't. I failed my Craft Sarcasm roll, due to a racial penalty to Nonliteral Verbiage.

[Daehawk]

If you're curious about how well Trump is handling the Cohen/Manafort verdicts, the Washington Post is streaming his rally on Twitch.

I can no longer stand to hear to see him so I cannot watch him any longer. Nothing but stupid comes out of his stupid self. Hothead, liar, stupid, incompetent, egotistical, orange. I cant stand him any longer.

[Blackhawk]

Oh, but the joy of stupid panic!

[ImLawBoy]

Whoa, Rolling Stones let him use their music? Hows that work?

Odd song to pick.

'You can't always get what you want'... was that just WP playing that?

Music licensing is weird, but the bottom line is that they don't need to get the Stones' approval to use their music.

[Holman]

Whoa, Rolling Stones let him use their music? Hows that work?

Odd song to pick.

'You can't always get what you want'... was that just WP playing that?

Music licensing is weird, but the bottom line is that they don't need to get the Stones' approval to use their music.

And Trump has been using "You Can't Always Get What You Want" in most (all?) of his rallies since back into the campaign.

Such a weird choice, especially when "Sympathy For the Devil" is just *right there*.

[Carpet_pissr]

If you're curious about how well Trump is handling the Cohen/Manafort verdicts, the Washington Post is streaming his rally on Twitch.

I can no longer stand to hear to see him so I cannot watch him any longer. Nothing but stupid comes out of his stupid self. Hothead, liar, stupid, incompetent, egotistical, orange. I cant stand him any longer.

Then you missed the bittersweet moment, bursting with irony given the timing, when the crowd began chanting “Lock her up!”

Years ago I would have thought that was hilarious, as an Onion article headline. Now? Not so funny.

[Daehawk]

They chanted that at something not at all related?

I did notice before I stopped paying attention to him that when something bad on him started trending he'd start fussing about something to bring the focus off him.....

Lock her up!
Drain the swamp!
Make my wallet fat again!

[Smoove_B]

Some deep thoughts from our President:

"If I ever got impeached, I think the market would crash. I think everybody would be very poor," the president said in a Fox News interview that aired Thursday.

Because without this thinking, you would see numbers that you wouldn't believe in reverse," Trump said, pointing at his head. "I got rid of regulations. The tax cut was a tremendous thing."

But the clincher:

"I don't know how you can impeach somebody who's done a great job," the president told "Fox & Friends."

How indeed.

[Carpet_pissr]

"I don't know how you can impeach somebody who's done a great job," the president told "Fox & Friends."

.

Fuck me. Of all the stupid shit our adorable Stable Genius has said, that might be the stupidest.