Political Randomness

[pr0ner]

In the context of a newsworthy discussion? Sure. Otherwise? Probably not so much.

I would agree with this and it was the point I was trying to make. You said it better than I did.

[LawBeefaroni]

Just to show there are crazies on both sides, my brother had a customer at his screenprinting company the other day get enraged that they wouldn't print a FUCK TRUMP shirt. The reason wasn't political; the company simply has a policy of not printing profanity. They suggested a number of other alternatives like "Dump Trump," etc.

The guy got furious and told my brother he was a fascist Nazi defending a fascist Nazi.

The irony is that my brother is about as anti-Trump and liberal as you can possibly get. He's a vegan theater hippie who studies African-American history.

"Tuck Frump" are the shirts I see kids wearing these days.

[GreenGoo]

There is no question there are crazies on both sides. We can't really start talking about both sides in that context however until tee shirt boy gets his own show on CNN with the rest of CNN supporting and being self referential to the show. Until then, one's a wackadoodle yelling at a copy shop clerk, the other is a multi-million dollar media personality with a direct line to millions Americans on a daily basis, with infrastructure and network providing support and amplifying his message.

[LordMortis]

Truck Fump

[El Guapo]

I guess we're at the point where saying "fuck that bitch" is appropriate here on OO.

I know I voted for Paingod and El Guapo to speak for OO. Who did you vote for?

In any case, I struggle to find outrage for a heated comment in a private meeting about a serious stressor. I use the word "fuck" like 40 times a day about the smallest shit. Is it appropriate? No it is not. Should it be criticized? Absolutely. Should I be outraged? Meh. He should take a PR hit and it sounds like he's going to do so. Should there be blood or a resignation? What do you think is an appropriate response?

Thank you for your vote. I promise that as OO spokesman I will absolutely let the power go to my head and use it completely inappropriately.

[GreenGoo]

If you could turn the site into a neo-nazi furry dating site, that would be great. That's a niche that can't be over filled, much like a neo-nazi furry.

[Ralph-Wiggum]

https://twitter.com/silkyjumbo/status/1 ... 4644179978

Spoiler:

when we said more black faces in government, we should have been specific.

[Z-Corn]

I know @silkyjumbo, she's hilarious!

[LawBeefaroni]

Truck Fump

Yeah, maybe that's it.

[pr0ner]

Burn it all down:

https://www.twitter.com/HotlineJosh/sta ... 6496785409

[GreenGoo]

The lawyers are making out like bandits. The cherry on top would be to find out tax payers are paying for it all somehow. Not that I actually think that is happening, only that it would be especially awful.

[$iljanus]

Burn it all down:

https://www.twitter.com/HotlineJosh/sta ... 6496785409

Wow, does any politician in Virginia have a clue about perception,optics, etc.? There maybe a shortage of qualified people for public office that haven’t worn blackface but there sure isn’t a shortage of law firms. I guess things did work out for Bart O’Kavanaugh in the end though so why mess with success.

[Max Peck]

Neomi Rao: Trump court pick 'regrets' blaming women for date rape

US President Donald Trump's nominee to replace Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh on a lower court has said she regrets past comments about date rape.

Neomi Rao, head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, wrote a college op-ed claiming women could avoid rape by staying sober.

In another opinion piece, Ms Rao wrote feminism was "dangerous" for teaching women that they are equal to men.

Facing scrutiny from both parties, Ms Rao said she had "matured" since then.

"To be honest, looking back at some of those writings, I cringe at some of the language I used," Ms Rao, 45, a nominee for the DC Circuit Court of Appeals, told the Senate Judiciary Committee.

If I understand the system, this either ends her career (if she's a Democrat) or "boys girls will be boys girls ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ " (if she's a Republican).

[Isgrimnur]

https://twitter.com/TyFromTheSky/status ... 4779807744

WaPo

[pr0ner]

Oh. Well. I guess this is the new normal in Virginia for a while.

Almost feel like my state deserves its own thread at this point.

https://twitter.com/virginianpilot/stat ... 7550500866

[pr0ner]

Neomi Rao: Trump court pick 'regrets' blaming women for date rape

US President Donald Trump's nominee to replace Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh on a lower court has said she regrets past comments about date rape.

Neomi Rao, head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, wrote a college op-ed claiming women could avoid rape by staying sober.

In another opinion piece, Ms Rao wrote feminism was "dangerous" for teaching women that they are equal to men.

Facing scrutiny from both parties, Ms Rao said she had "matured" since then.

"To be honest, looking back at some of those writings, I cringe at some of the language I used," Ms Rao, 45, a nominee for the DC Circuit Court of Appeals, told the Senate Judiciary Committee.

If I understand the system, this either ends her career (if she's a Democrat) or "boys girls will be boys girls ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ " (if she's a Republican).

This sorely lacks her opinions on dwarf tossing.

[El Guapo]

Well, the good news is that I'm pretty sure that the systemic racism was confined to Virginia.

[hepcat]

So 1968 in Virginia was a period in which racism was rampant?

I'm...shocked?

[El Guapo]

Any Virginians who held onto their yearbooks can probably sell them for decent money now.

[GreenGoo]

Any Virginians who held onto their yearbooks can probably sell them for decent money now.

Because of increased demand following the normalisation of racism again under Mr. Clever Nickname Generator?

[El Guapo]

Any Virginians who held onto their yearbooks can probably sell them for decent money now.

Because of increased demand following the normalisation of racism again under Mr. Clever Nickname Generator?

Because now they can sell them either to politicians in blackface in the yearbooks, or to their enemies.

[hepcat]

Any Virginians who held onto their yearbooks can probably sell them for decent money now.

I'm tempted to take a black magic marker to my old high school yearbook and make some quick cash. Although to be fair, the most famous person in my school at that time is only famous because he can eat a lot of hot dogs really fast.

[YellowKing]

"Pssst. You think those Virginia yearbooks are the shit? That's minor league. I got some grade-A South Carolina yearbooks over here. Guaranteed to blow your mind, man."

[Ralph-Wiggum]

I was chatting with my mom about this and she's afraid to look back in her UNC yearbooks from '67 and '68. Especially when this sort of stuff was in the yearbook in 1979:

https://twitter.com/RaleighReporter/sta ... 8421158912

Spoiler:

Randomly flipped through the 1979 UNC-Chapel Hill yearbook today just to kill some time, and found this photo on one of the fraternities' pages. Holy shit.

[GreenGoo]

It's almost like civil rights took awhile to take hold and for society and culture to transform itself into a less shitty version of itself.

By all means start burning things down because 40+ years ago people were not as enlightened as they are today.

I think it's important to be critical of past actions. I also think it's important to evaluate people based on a lifetime of behaviour.

Don't get me wrong, those pictures are shitty even by the standards of the 70's, and yes, they are an atrocity in 2019, but 40 years is a long freaking time ago. If we aren't going to take peoples' ability to change into account and just burn them at the stake whatever the affront at whatever point in time it occurred, then why even bother to change at all? Once you've made your first mistake and it's recorded, it's game over for you. Luckily it's very easy for people to never make any mistakes or lapses in judgement, so you know anyone who's made a mistake has chosen to be a monster.

I'm frustrated, obviously. These are shitty things that people have done. They deserve ridicule and criticism. A lifetime of change and positive behaviour should be worth something though, shouldn't?

I don't know about the specifics of any one of these cases. I'm fairly confident the internet doesn't know either, yet burn him down seems to be the go-to response. In a time where the president of the United States has admitted on camera to sexually assaulting women based on a life of privilege, I struggle to understand this duality. Particularly ironic is the right media sphere calling hypocrisy on the left over this. This is the same right that defended Moore, defends drumpf, and put Kavanaugh on the SCOTUS.

If it turns out these guys are closet racists and have been all their lives, then have at it. Even if not, I agree some some public flogging in warranted. How much is enough, I guess is where my dilemma arises.

[LawBeefaroni]

The frustration is that these guys are in positions of power. And they're the ones funding laughable Confederate monuments with taxpayer money and teaching the Lost Cause narrative bullshit. Their veiled ignorance and racism today is presaged by their overt "boys will be boys" ignorance and racism of their youth

No not every one, but enough of them that it's a thing.

[GreenGoo]

No not every one, but enough of them that it's a thing.

And I'm fine with burning those guys at the stake.

[Holman]

Sad news: RIP, John Dingell.

Former U.S. Rep. John David Dingell Jr., who was one of the U.S House’s most powerful chairmen and helped write and pass some of the most consequential legislation in the nation's history, died Thursday. He was 92.

Dingell, of Dearborn, served nearly 60 years in the House, making him the longest-serving member in Congress' history. He stepped down in early 2015. His wife, U.S. Rep. Debbie Dingell, confirmed his death for the Free Press at about 9:30 p.m.

After retiring at age 88, Dingell surprisingly embraced Twitter, reveling in the brevity of the form. He had more than 252,000 followers as he made playful, often sarcastic comments on culture (“Staff has now informed me of what a Kardashian is. I'm only left with more questions”), Michigan sports (“Say what you will about the Lions, they've nearly perfected walking backward between plays while the flags are being picked up”) and politics.

Following the conflict in Charlottesville, Va., in 2017 in which white nationalists brawled with protesters wanting to pull down a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee — after which President Donald Trump said there were “very fine people” on both sides — Dingell tweeted, “I signed up to fight Nazis 73 years ago and I'll do it again if I have to.”

He will always be known first and foremost, however, for a remarkable legislative tenure that lasted 59 years — spanning all or part of 11 presidencies — during which time he cast tens of thousands of votes and helped write or otherwise played a role in passing the most significant measures of the era, including Medicare, the Civil Rights Act, the Clean Water and Clean Air acts, the Endangered Species Act and more.

[hepcat]

Reading over some of Dingell’s tweets had me laughing out loud more than once last night. What a great man with a great sense of humor.

In other news, we're at day 28 of Ocasio-Cortez having at least two disparaging stories about her on Fox News' front page. God, I love how nuts she drives conservatives.

[El Guapo]

It's almost like civil rights took awhile to take hold and for society and culture to transform itself into a less shitty version of itself.

By all means start burning things down because 40+ years ago people were not as enlightened as they are today.

I think it's important to be critical of past actions. I also think it's important to evaluate people based on a lifetime of behaviour.

Don't get me wrong, those pictures are shitty even by the standards of the 70's, and yes, they are an atrocity in 2019, but 40 years is a long freaking time ago. If we aren't going to take peoples' ability to change into account and just burn them at the stake whatever the affront at whatever point in time it occurred, then why even bother to change at all? Once you've made your first mistake and it's recorded, it's game over for you. Luckily it's very easy for people to never make any mistakes or lapses in judgement, so you know anyone who's made a mistake has chosen to be a monster.

I'm frustrated, obviously. These are shitty things that people have done. They deserve ridicule and criticism. A lifetime of change and positive behaviour should be worth something though, shouldn't?

I don't know about the specifics of any one of these cases. I'm fairly confident the internet doesn't know either, yet burn him down seems to be the go-to response. In a time where the president of the United States has admitted on camera to sexually assaulting women based on a life of privilege, I struggle to understand this duality. Particularly ironic is the right media sphere calling hypocrisy on the left over this. This is the same right that defended Moore, defends drumpf, and put Kavanaugh on the SCOTUS.

If it turns out these guys are closet racists and have been all their lives, then have at it. Even if not, I agree some some public flogging in warranted. How much is enough, I guess is where my dilemma arises.

I agree. It's like people are getting so close to the point, without really stumbling into it. These photos show the people involved making extremely poor decisions, to be sure, but treating them just as individual fuck-ups kind of misses the degree to which they illustrate how deep and widespread racism has been in our society.

[pr0ner]

Candace Owens defending Hitler is really something.

https://www.twitter.com/existentialfish ... 8446323712

[El Guapo]

Hey, if he only wanted to slaughter the Jews within Germany, that wouldn't have been a problem, right?

[Smoove_B]

What's the problem, libs? Hitler just wanted smooth operations. He was proud of being German, is that wrong? What? No, I don't have any comment on genocide. Really, the problem is that he wanted to expand his vision for a perfect Germany to other places. If he just did his thing within the borders of Germany, what's the problem?

Did I paraphrase that correctly?

[pr0ner]

What's the problem, libs? Hitler just wanted smooth operations. He was proud of being German, is that wrong? What? No, I don't have any comment on genocide. Really, the problem is that he wanted to expand his vision for a perfect Germany to other places. If he just did his thing within the borders of Germany, what's the problem?

Did I paraphrase that correctly?

Yes.

[hepcat]

The only defense I can think of for that weird speech is that she doesn't know that there were Jews living in Germany during that period.

[Alefroth]

She appears to have a misunderstanding of globalism.

[Jaymann]

She appears to have a misunderstanding of globalism.

And nationalism.

[El Guapo]

She appears to have a misunderstanding of globalism.

And nationalism.

And everything else.

[LawBeefaroni]

I'm actually seeing a lot of this reinterpreatation/normalization of nationalism. Even more absurdly, for "white nationalism." Like, "we're nationalists who happen to be white. What's the problem?" It's the alt-right throwing confusion into everything and co-opting shit to spread chaos.


They've done it to great effect with the blue line flag. It was solely a symbol of support for LEOs. They've co-opted it and painted LEO and their supporters as racists and supporters of white nationalism. They've furthered the divide between police and minorities.

[pr0ner]

In your daily Virginia update, Northam says he's not going to resign, and a woman just came out saying Fairfax raped her in college in 2000.

https://www.twitter.com/Bencjacobs/stat ... 2842116098