The Former Trump Presidency Thread

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:26 am

pr0ner wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:14 am One has to wonder what's going on here. DC already has an epic Independence Day celebration and fireworks display. Is Trump going to shut that down to run his own? Are there going to be competing celebrations? What the bloody hell.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 1088466946

The best part is that he had to point out who our favorite president is.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:36 am

hepcat wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:26 am
pr0ner wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:14 am One has to wonder what's going on here. DC already has an epic Independence Day celebration and fireworks display. Is Trump going to shut that down to run his own? Are there going to be competing celebrations? What the bloody hell.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 1088466946
The best part is that he had to point out who our favorite president is.

Does it matter that he got that part completely wrong?

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:47 am

hepcat wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:26 am
pr0ner wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:14 am One has to wonder what's going on here. DC already has an epic Independence Day celebration and fireworks display. Is Trump going to shut that down to run his own? Are there going to be competing celebrations? What the bloody hell.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 1088466946
The best part is that he had to point out who our favorite president is.

That's not the first time he's tweeted out that particular line either.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:39 am

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 5515082752

Anyone know what prompted this?

(For those wondering, Reid was not "thrown out." He retired after a major injury. The last time he lost an election was 1975.)

(Oh, and he is also dying of pancreatic cancer, so Trump gets extra points for classiness here.)

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:52 am

Holman wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:39 am https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 5515082752

Anyone know what prompted this?

A Harry Reid appearance on CNN this morning.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:00 pm

A searing critic of President George W. Bush and his administration, Reid now says in the age of Trump, he wishes for Bush again "every day," saying Bush would be "Babe Ruth" compared to the current president.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:00 pm

Holman wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:39 am (Oh, and he is also dying of pancreatic cancer, so Trump gets extra points for classiness here.)

CNN

Reid says he is now in remission, lucky that doctors caught his pancreatic cancer early and noting that it is almost always a death sentence because it is usually too late to treat when finally detected. But the chemotherapy treatment was especially brutal, compromising several vertebrae to the point where he needed two back surgeries and leaving him unable to walk much without assistance.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:17 pm

This is normal.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... wsrc%5Etfw

Be nice if Spike Lee could read his notes, or better yet not have to use notes at all, when doing his racist hit on your President, who has done more for African Americans (Criminal Justice Reform, Lowest Unemployment numbers in History, Tax Cuts,etc.) than almost any other Pres!

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:20 pm

Holman wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:39 am
(For those wondering, Reid was not "thrown out." He retired after a major injury. The last time he lost an election was 1975.)

(Oh, and he is also dying of pancreatic cancer, so Trump gets extra points for classiness here.)

Does it really matter? We are post-truth.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:59 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:17 pm This is normal.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... wsrc%5Etfw

Be nice if Spike Lee could read his notes, or better yet not have to use notes at all, when doing his racist hit on your President, who has done more for African Americans (Criminal Justice Reform, Lowest Unemployment numbers in History, Tax Cuts,etc.) than almost any other Pres!

Yeah, Trump pretty much identifies with hate.

This brief outburst [Trump's tweet, above] contains a few notable elements. First, there is Trump’s familiar habit of calling African-Americans “racist.” Lee’s speech did not contain any generalizations about white people, nor any calls for violence or retribution. The closest thing to a broad claim about white people in his remarks was a statement noting and denouncing slavery:

[...]

Finally, and most amusingly, Trump’s anger and offense was directed against a speech that is (by recent standards) notably nonpartisan. Lee did not mention Trump’s name. He did not endorse any candidates or parties.

“The 2020 election is right around the corner,” he said. “Let’s all mobilize, let’s all be on the right side of history. Make the moral choice between love versus hate. Let’s do the right thing.”

In theory, a president could listen to a call for making the moral choice of love against hate and doing “the right thing” and interpret it as an endorsement — or, at minimum, a nonpartisan statement. Trump processed it as a personal attack.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:07 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:17 pm This is normal.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... wsrc%5Etfw

Be nice if Spike Lee could read his notes, or better yet not have to use notes at all, when doing his racist hit on your President, who has done more for African Americans (Criminal Justice Reform, Lowest Unemployment numbers in History, Tax Cuts,etc.) than almost any other Pres!

And more post-truth. Welcome to the new reality.

I have been seeing/hearing a lot lately about how Obama did nothing for blacks and Trump has been 100x better for them. Must have been run up the alt-right flagpole at some point recently. More FUD. Not surprised to see him gobbling it up.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:19 pm

He's decided he's going to keep using the word "racist" so much that folks will forget what it means. He doesn't care that he's using it wrong. Just that he lessens its impact when folks apply it to Trump and his klan.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:25 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:07 pm
Smoove_B wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:17 pm This is normal.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... wsrc%5Etfw

Be nice if Spike Lee could read his notes, or better yet not have to use notes at all, when doing his racist hit on your President, who has done more for African Americans (Criminal Justice Reform, Lowest Unemployment numbers in History, Tax Cuts,etc.) than almost any other Pres!

And more post-truth. Welcome to the new reality.

I have been seeing/hearing a lot lately about how Obama did nothing for blacks and Trump has been 100x better for them. Must have been run up the alt-right flagpole at some point recently. More FUD. Not surprised to see him gobbling it up.

This is a good column about Trump's Spike Lee attacks, tying it to the dogwhistle about Obama needing a teleprompter (the underlying theme appearing to be that black people can't speak intelligently without prompts).

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:33 pm

El Guapo wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:25 pm This is a good column about Trump's Spike Lee attacks, tying it to the dogwhistle about Obama needing a teleprompter (the underlying theme appearing to be that black people can't speak intelligently without prompts).

So what does that say about Trump who can't speak intelligently with prompts?

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:35 pm

That Obama was a racist when he didn't use them?

I honestly don't know at this point.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:53 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:33 pm
El Guapo wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:25 pm This is a good column about Trump's Spike Lee attacks, tying it to the dogwhistle about Obama needing a teleprompter (the underlying theme appearing to be that black people can't speak intelligently without prompts).
So what does that say about Trump who can't speak intelligently with prompts?

Trump is plainspoken because he speaks from the heart, on behalf of the American people, without focus-grouping everything that he's going to say. Obviously.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:05 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:33 pm

So what does that say about Trump who can't speak intelligently with prompts?

... or with notes...
... or when he has no notes at all...

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:20 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:20 pm
Holman wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:39 am
(For those wondering, Reid was not "thrown out." He retired after a major injury. The last time he lost an election was 1975.)

(Oh, and he is also dying of pancreatic cancer, so Trump gets extra points for classiness here.)
Does it really matter? We are post-truth.

It matters. Really.

GungHo · Post by **GungHo** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:23 am

Holman wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:59 pm
Smoove_B wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:17 pm This is normal.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... wsrc%5Etfw

Be nice if Spike Lee could read his notes, or better yet not have to use notes at all, when doing his racist hit on your President, who has done more for African Americans (Criminal Justice Reform, Lowest Unemployment numbers in History, Tax Cuts,etc.) than almost any other Pres!

Yeah, Trump pretty much identifies with hate.

This brief outburst [Trump's tweet, above] contains a few notable elements. First, there is Trump’s familiar habit of calling African-Americans “racist.” Lee’s speech did not contain any generalizations about white people, nor any calls for violence or retribution. The closest thing to a broad claim about white people in his remarks was a statement noting and denouncing slavery:

[...]

Finally, and most amusingly, Trump’s anger and offense was directed against a speech that is (by recent standards) notably nonpartisan. Lee did not mention Trump’s name. He did not endorse any candidates or parties.

“The 2020 election is right around the corner,” he said. “Let’s all mobilize, let’s all be on the right side of history. Make the moral choice between love versus hate. Let’s do the right thing.”

In theory, a president could listen to a call for making the moral choice of love against hate and doing “the right thing” and interpret it as an endorsement — or, at minimum, a nonpartisan statement. Trump processed it as a personal attack.

When I heard this earlier today that was my thought, why didn't he spin it as an endorsement by Lee? But then I remembered it's trump and he has Small Man's Disease/Tiny Dick Syndrome so..yeah, personal attack it is. And I'm sure his basket of deplorables ate it up.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:01 pm

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 1274398720

POTUS wrote:Vietnam is thriving like few places on earth. North Korea would be the same, and very quickly, if it would denuclearize. The potential is AWESOME, a great opportunity, like almost none other in history, for my friend Kim Jong Un. We will know fairly soon - Very Interesting!

Gawd. This is so tiresome.

Trump is a child. Vietnam hosted his party and Kim told him he was wonderful, so now both nations are among the greatest anywhere.

For anyone wondering, Vietnam creaks along under a regime of central control little better than any other communist country. The degree to which they are "thriving" is a function of making cheap labor available to other countries' supply chains.

Needless to say, Vietnam ranks very low on any index of freedom and individual opportunity. Should we even mention North Korea there?

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:29 pm

A U.S president has called a proven dictator with numerous human rights violations on record his friend?

Vile. Just vile.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:30 pm

https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1100473653509140480?s=19

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:36 am

Cohen was drumpf's fixer well before drumpf had any aspirations in politics. The idea that Cohen is somehow dirty and turning on his clean president is laughable.

How fucking unaware are GOP voters? Every single dirty thing Cohen has ever done, he has done for drumpf at drumpf's request.

Pay fucking attention GOP. He's not a conservative. He's not even GOP.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:39 am

This is going to be a fun day.

https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/stat ... 44832?s=21

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:52 am

The WaPo is live streaming Cohen's public testimony on their Twitch channel. Assuming they leave it up, there is also a VOD for the edification of those who cannot catch it live.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:27 pm

The NC representatives are working overtime to discredit him. Corrupt scumbags.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:35 pm

YellowKing wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:27 pm The NC representatives are working overtime to discredit him. Corrupt scumbags.

Given what you've told me about their home warren, it's not surprising.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:22 pm

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1100742127372386304

link

It's worth pausing over the image of President Bonespurs laughing it up with Hanoi top brass about this.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:22 am

Why don't people respond to shit like that simply by inquiring as to how his bone spurs are doing?

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:32 pm

The Manchurian Cantaloupe

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:41 pm

https://twitter.com/Citizen_WA/status/1 ... 3932077056

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:47 pm

into...a family of grifters?

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:10 pm

Speaking in Hanoi after his summit with Mr Kim broke down, Mr Trump said he did not believe the North Korean leader was aware of Otto Warmbier's ordeal.

Mr Trump said: "He tells me he didn't know about it, and I will take him at his word."

Are you fucking kidding me?

Full article.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:15 pm

He is not, in fact, fucking kidding you.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:20 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:15 pm He is not, in fact, fucking kidding you.

You mean "Beeb" isn't British for "Onion?"

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:36 pm

I would say that the Dems should parade out Warmbier's parents every time Trump has an appearance, just like Trump does with the parents of anyone murdered by an illegal immigrant...well, the ones that look Mexican at least; but I would rather they didn't stoop that low.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:07 pm

https://twitter.com/nytmike/status/1101245574219788289

EXCLUSIVE: The White House chief of staff at the time, John Kelly, wrote a contemporaneous internal memo about how he had been “ordered” by the president to give Jared Kushner the top-secret clearance. [link]

Needless to say, everyone in the administration from Trump on down has lied about this from the time it became a question.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:06 pm

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 8384023552

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:43 pm

Holman wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:06 pm https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 8384023552

Right, he got them "top secret clearance" not "top level clearance." Nothingberder.

Exodor · Post by **Exodor** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:18 pm

Holman wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:06 pm https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 8384023552

I mean, that's true.

Jared is not one of his children.