Corona Virus: It's a Marathon, Not a Sprint

hitbyambulance · Post by **hitbyambulance** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:46 am

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne ... m-america/

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LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:34 am

The expanding coronavirus outbreak isn’t only inspiring Americans to buy out hand sanitizer, groceries, flu medication and toilet paper -- it’s also leading to increased ammunition sales, one company said.

...

Ammo.com said that four states saw an increase in sales greater than 100 percent. At the top of the list was North Carolina, which saw an increase of 179 percent, followed by Georgia with an increase of 169 percent.

Pennsylvania and Texas followed in third and fourth places, with increases of 140 percent and 128 percent respectively.

Other states also saw increases, including Florida (76 percent), Illinois (67 percent), New York (48 percent) and Ohio (40 percent), according to Ammo.com.

Folks, water. You're going to want water.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:16 am

Daehawk wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:06 pm Trump Supporter Says Coronavirus Doesn’t Exist, Is Fabricated By Dems To Hurt The President

Hope she gets it. Have fun lady with no brain.

Does having no brain count as a pre-existing medical condition that makes one more vulnerable to the virus?

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:03 pm

The AHA (American Hospital Association) is predicting disaster:

https://www.businessinsider.com/present ... ons-2020-3

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:20 pm

JFC I'm not going anywhere for 6 months.

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:15 pm

malchior wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:06 pm https://twitter.com/fox5dc/status/1236061799033769984

2 New Yorkers who attended an AIPAC conference in DC test positive for coronavirus

Depending on how this turns out, I may have to reconsider my stance on Divine Intervention.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:17 pm

1 in my state now. Went of a trip to Italy.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:42 pm

Archinerd wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:15 pm
malchior wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:06 pm https://twitter.com/fox5dc/status/1236061799033769984

2 New Yorkers who attended an AIPAC conference in DC test positive for coronavirus

Depending on how this turns out, I may have to reconsider my stance on Divine Intervention.

CPAC attendee tests positive for Democrat's hoax.

Thoughts and prayers.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:45 am

I just saw a news headline that read "Trump didn't know people died from the flu. Was shocked to find that out. His grandfather died from it."

Its a Washington Post story and Im not a member so cant read it

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:15 pm

Very reassuring appearance by the Surgeon General.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1236669894747398144

Here's Surgeon General Jerome Adams telling Jake Tapper that President Trump "sleeps less than I do and he's healthier than what I am." Flushed face.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:28 pm

So DC is all liars. No news there.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:54 pm

For a pussy grabber like Trump, I guess getting asked "When's the last time you washed your hands?" is a common question.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 3:38 pm

I guess because he is a doctor, that means he was nominated to appear on the TV?

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1236674396867170305

STEPHANOPOULOS: The Grand Princess is docking tomorrow. What's the plan for the 3,500 people on board?

BEN CARSON: They're coming up with one

S: It docks tomorrow

C: The plan will be in place

S: Shouldn't you be able to say what it is?

C: It hasn't been fully formulated

The next video in the thread is even more bonkers. I cannot emphasize enough how much damage this is doing.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:21 pm

Trump is a known germophobe with a real hang-up about contagion.

This is going to end with him holed-up Howard-Hughes style in the Residence with duct tape over the windows.

TheMix · Post by **TheMix** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:24 pm

Holman wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:21 pm Trump is a known germophobe with a real hang-up about contagion.

This is going to end with him holed-up Howard-Hughes style in the Residence with duct tape over the windows.

The question is whether his NEED for for adulation will overcome that. It's going to be really tough for him to give up his rallies.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:36 pm

Holman wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:21 pm This is going to end with him holed-up Howard-Hughes style in the Residence with duct tape over the windows.

Except he was out golfing this morning. I'm sure he believes the stealth planes flying overhead and secret service are blocking illness.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:36 pm

TheMix wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:24 pm
Holman wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:21 pm Trump is a known germophobe with a real hang-up about contagion.

This is going to end with him holed-up Howard-Hughes style in the Residence with duct tape over the windows.
The question is whether his NEED for for adulation will overcome that. It's going to be really tough for him to give up his rallies.

He's kind of painted himself into a corner on that: he can't be seen giving in to the Democratic hoax virus. The show must go on, because it's all a show.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:52 pm

He's just the former director of the CDC, so feel free to disregard if you want:

This nursing home outbreak of Covid-19 is what we call a "sentinel event": a warning of outbreaks and deaths that may be coming. But these deaths are not inevitable. It is essential that we protect the most vulnerable people -- those with serious underlying health conditions such as respiratory disease, cancer and diabetes and older adults. The overall case fatality ratio for Covid-19 appears to be under 1%, but is many times higher for the elderly.
The threat of rapid spread within long-term care facilities means that if we make the tough decision, now, to immediately restrict visits, we may be able to prevent many more outbreaks like the one in Kirkland. We also must ensure that any nursing home staff who are ill not come to work -- and that they receive paid leave, so they have no economic incentive to come to work if ill. Families want to visit loved ones; we should facilitate virtual visits until we know more and can do more to protect the most vulnerable.

And:

We need to hear from the world's leading experts, including Drs. Anne Schuchat and Nancy Messonnier at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and Dr. Anthony Fauci at the National Institutes of Health. We need them to speak to us every day to keep Americans informed about what we are learning, the spread of the virus and what people can do to protect themselves. Clear, credible and consistent information about the virus and the response is urgently needed. Political leaders must take a hard look at the costs and benefits of social distancing interventions. Canceling large public gatherings, switching to telework, and considering closing schools is disruptive, but may be needed in the short term to prevent more severe longer-term impact. At a minimum, we must reduce the risk to medically vulnerably people now.

Our window to act as a nation is closing. The timeline is going to differ based on where you live, but make no mistake, at some point it's going to be too late.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:52 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:51 pm
El Guapo wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:54 pm Just got an e-mail that my kids' school is canceling some celebratory dinner next Wednesday. Really not sure how that makes sense, given the minimal Coronavirus presence around here and the fact that the school is still otherwise operating normally. But I wasn't planning on going to the celebration anyway, so...

Next week I have 4 events in 4 nights. An annual meeting (a few hundred doctors, open bar), an education committee meeting (20 people at a house), a board meeting (back room at a bar), and a party (75 people at a rented event space).

Cancellations would be welcome....

COVID-19 cancellation #1 today....

Of course it was the only one that didn't involve driving or a school night.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:23 pm

Two congressmen -- Ted Cruz and Paul Gosar -- self-quarantine.

Don't worry; they're fine. Everything's fine. Trump's not concerned at all.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:29 pm

You'd think someone voluntarily coming into human contact with Ted Cruz would be warning enough that something was wrong with them.

(Too soon?)

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:49 pm

Kraken wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:23 pmDon't worry; they're fine. Everything's fine. Trump's not concerned at all.

Not a surprise. It doesn't affect him personally.

Freyland · Post by **Freyland** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:24 am

malchior wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:49 pm
Kraken wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:23 pmDon't worry; they're fine. Everything's fine. Trump's not concerned at all.
Not a surprise. It doesn't affect him personally.

From the article:

"The White House said Saturday that there was no indication Pence or Trump had been in "close proximity" to the man."

Doesn't that sound like every other defense since 2015?

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:37 am

malchior wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:49 pm
Kraken wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:23 pmDon't worry; they're fine. Everything's fine. Trump's not concerned at all.
Not a surprise. It doesn't affect him personally.

Yet.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:04 am

Smoove_B wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:54 pm
Jaymann wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:39 pm Can you imagine if Obama were still President?
Every day.

We'd have a handful of managed cases, maybe a fatality or two - and the GOP broadcasters would be enraged that Obama was doing it wearing a blue tie.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:52 am

Paingod wrote:
Smoove_B wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:54 pm
Jaymann wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:39 pm Can you imagine if Obama were still President?
Every day.
We'd have a handful of managed cases, maybe a fatality or two - and the GOP broadcasters would be enraged that Obama was doing it wearing a blue tie.

And another example of Federal overreach by Obama and the deep state using this manufactured crisis for some nefarious gain.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:27 am

Wheres all those beautiful tests?

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:28 am

My client just cancelled all travel until...May. A major interruption of activity for my efforts.

Scraper · Post by **Scraper** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:48 am

The Dow opened over 1800 lower. It will be an interesting day to see where it stops and if last week is any indication it will be a crazy week.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:22 am

Kraken wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:23 pm Two congressmen -- Ted Cruz and Paul Gosar -- self-quarantine.

Don't worry; they're fine. Everything's fine. Trump's not concerned at all.

The other Senators must be devastated that they don't get to interact with Ted Cruz for awhile.

gilraen · Post by **gilraen** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:38 am

Scraper wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:48 am The Dow opened over 1800 lower. It will be an interesting day to see where it stops and if last week is any indication it will be a crazy week.

First circuit breakers activated for S&P 500 due to 7% drop - 15 minute halt in trading.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:40 am

The small business approach I'm seeing is "We're washing our hands and sterilizing surfaces regularly" and "people should work from home if able"

I can do 98% of my job remotely. If I get sick, or it looks like it's in my community, I shouldn't see much of a dent in my sick time (which is also my vacation time, one big pool). Problem is, we're a small clinic with 50+ employees and 3 sites providing mostly non-essential services. I imagine patients will start cancelling or rescheduling. When that happens we'll have a period of time where business is -very- slow and the owners already consistently complain about tight cash flow. Not sure how that'll play out. I don't see them giving up, but I expect it's going to sting.

Is there business insurance that covers loss of income from viral outbreaks?

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:46 am

Regardless of how bad this gets, I think we're going to see a shift in business philosophy in the future as they start taking this sort of eventuality into account going forward. Work-from-home options are going to become a lot more attractive to a lot of employers.

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:56 am

Freyland wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:24 am
malchior wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:49 pm
Kraken wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:23 pmDon't worry; they're fine. Everything's fine. Trump's not concerned at all.
Not a surprise. It doesn't affect him personally.
From the article:

"The White House said Saturday that there was no indication Pence or Trump had been in "close proximity" to the man."

Doesn't that sound like every other defense since 2015?

If there is nothing to worry about, why would it matter if they had contact or not?

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:59 am

Trump is panicking.

https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status ... 8614270977

This is now in the "he's going to get a lot of people killed" zone.

Trump's mad tweet wrote:So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:04 am

Wow. I guess someone was educating him about influenza last night and he's sharing with everyone what he learned?

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:06 am

CDC Statistics on influenza:
2016-2017, 29,000,000 estimated infections, 14,000,000 estimated doctors visits, 500,000 estimated hospitalizations, 38,000 estimated fatalities.
Approximate fatality rate: 0.13%

Trump's proud Coronavirus numbers:
546 confirmed cases, 22 deaths.
Fatality rate: 4.03%

The US is going to have some serious issues with this man advising everyone to go out and lick doorknobs.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:12 am

Smoove_B wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:04 am Wow. I guess someone was educating him about influenza last night and he's sharing with everyone what he learned?

People say he knows the most about COVID-19. His uncle went to MIT so he can see into the future after all.

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:23 am

LordMortis wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:06 pm
YellowKing wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:44 pm I once read a novel in which all the adults got a disease that made them go crazy and only the kids were left untouched. This led to a Lord of the Flies type society where kids had to band together to survive the adult zombies.

So I'm just going with that.

Was that the Star Tek TOS episode?
If not, I seem to recall one with the same thing. (I "think" it was TOS..)

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:24 am

LawBeefaroni wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:34 am
The expanding coronavirus outbreak isn’t only inspiring Americans to buy out hand sanitizer, groceries, flu medication and toilet paper -- it’s also leading to increased ammunition sales, one company said.

...

Ammo.com said that four states saw an increase in sales greater than 100 percent. At the top of the list was North Carolina, which saw an increase of 179 percent, followed by Georgia with an increase of 169 percent.

Pennsylvania and Texas followed in third and fourth places, with increases of 140 percent and 128 percent respectively.

Other states also saw increases, including Florida (76 percent), Illinois (67 percent), New York (48 percent) and Ohio (40 percent), according to Ammo.com.
Folks, water. You're going to want water.

but if you have enough ammo, you can always get more water!