Corona Virus: It's a Marathon, Not a Sprint

[ImLawBoy]

The bot has been banned.

[LawBeefaroni]

A coworker just got back from Ft. Lauderdale on Monday. Today she got 4 round-trip tickets there over the weekend for $350 total. Some people manage to find a silver lining.






Until they get stuck in quarantine in Florida with Floridamen.

[ImLawBoy]

The twins' kindergarten teacher is out today, so I'm assuming it's the virus and we're all doomed.

[Archinerd]

Fox Business host Trish Regan: Coronavirus is 'impeachment all over again' As noted, bonkers.

You know what's fiendishly clever? Most of the cases so far are in blue states! That was supposed to throw the Republicans off the trail.

The Deep State is offering good $$$ to get caronavirus.

[hentzau]

First Dark Zone established in New York.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has announced a one-mile (1.6km) coronavirus "containment zone" around a town north of New York City.

New Rochelle has seen "probably the largest cluster" of US cases, he said.

National Guard troops will be used to clean schools in the town and deliver food to any quarantined individuals.

Mr Cuomo said there would be no travel restrictions in New Rochelle (population 77,000) but large meeting points in the area would be closed.

Schools, gathering places and businesses in the virus hot spot will be closed for two weeks.

Officials will also set up a coronavirus testing facility at a local hospital.

"It is a dramatic action but it is the largest cluster in the country and this is literally a matter of life and death," Mr Cuomo said, adding that numbers of cases were "going up unabated" in New Rochelle.

"You're not containing people. You're containing facilities."

Oh Rob!!!

[LordMortis]

The first confirmations in my county and a county adjacent occurred yesterday. And now business continuity plans are going full swing everywhere.

[Skinypupy]

Bad time to be involved in any business that involves bringing people together for meetings.

In the past week, 80% of my training programs over the next 2 months have either cancelled or postponed. Most of my colleagues are in the same boat. It's a damn bloodbath.

[LawBeefaroni]

The twins' kindergarten teacher is out today, so I'm assuming it's the virus and we're all doomed.

Another co-worker of mine said his disctict shut down until next Monday. Can't remember which, one of the suburbs.

[El Guapo]

I was supposed to go to NY for a witness interview on Friday. That's not happening at this point, at least not in person. Though I also just saw a shot of deserted NYC subway stations - if no one in NYC is going out, arguably it would be perfectly safe to go around NYC.

[ImLawBoy]

Still plenty of people (myself included) on public transportation in Chicago.

[Isgrimnur]

Time to stay home and play The Division.

[LawBeefaroni]

Time to stay home and watch the kids play The Division My Time in Portia.

I'll be at the bench detail stripping Sigs.

[El Guapo]

Still plenty of people (myself included) on public transportation in Chicago.

Yeah, what I'm having a hard time grappling with is the comparative risk analysis. I'm still taking the subway into and out of work every day at this point. Is it more risky to be out and about in New York vs. Boston? Maybe - there seems to be more going on in NYC on this stuff at the moment, though that could just as easily be due to different testing (and different government responses). Would it be risky to fly or take the train to/from New York from Boston?

Side question: do we have a shrug emoji on the forum? Seems like we should.

edit: to add shrug emoji. Thanks!

[Archinerd]

:shrugemoji:

[Isgrimnur]

[Max Peck]

¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

[ImLawBoy]

Still plenty of people (myself included) on public transportation in Chicago.

Yeah, what I'm having a hard time grappling with is the comparative risk analysis. I'm still taking the subway into and out of work every day at this point. Is it more risky to be out and about in New York vs. Boston? Maybe - there seems to be more going on in NYC on this stuff at the moment, though that could just as easily be due to different testing (and different government responses). Would it be risky to fly or take the train to/from New York from Boston?

Side question: do we have a shrug emoji on the forum? Seems like we should.

edit: to add shrug emoji. Thanks!

I'm being more vigilant about washing my hands after I get off the L, but that's about it. I could get away with working from home, but that's a less than ideal situation for a number of reasons (I'll do it if they shut down the office, of course), and driving and paying downtown parking rates would be exorbitantly expensive. I rarely lick the poles on the train anymore, so I'm probably safe.

[El Guapo]

Still plenty of people (myself included) on public transportation in Chicago.

Yeah, what I'm having a hard time grappling with is the comparative risk analysis. I'm still taking the subway into and out of work every day at this point. Is it more risky to be out and about in New York vs. Boston? Maybe - there seems to be more going on in NYC on this stuff at the moment, though that could just as easily be due to different testing (and different government responses). Would it be risky to fly or take the train to/from New York from Boston?

Side question: do we have a shrug emoji on the forum? Seems like we should.

edit: to add shrug emoji. Thanks!

I'm being more vigilant about washing my hands after I get off the L, but that's about it. I could get away with working from home, but that's a less than ideal situation for a number of reasons (I'll do it if they shut down the office, of course), and driving and paying downtown parking rates would be exorbitantly expensive. I rarely lick the poles on the train anymore, so I'm probably safe.

It's another reason for me to bike into work, which is feasible. Though I'm anticipating the Shakespearean tragedy of then getting killed when a Corona delivery truck slams into my bike.

[geezer]

Bad time to be involved in any business that involves bringing people together for meetings.

In the past week, 80% of my training programs over the next 2 months have either cancelled or postponed. Most of my colleagues are in the same boat. It's a damn bloodbath.

My wife had two events cancel in the last 24 hours - one scheduled for Saturday, one for Monday.

[Defiant]

WHO officially designates it a Pandemic.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/world-hea ... l-pandemic

[Smoove_B]

If you listen closely, you can hear all the business insurance adjusters screaming "goddammit" it unison.

[stessier]

If you listen closely, you can hear all the business insurance adjusters screaming "goddammit" it unison.

I don't understand.

[Isgrimnur]

If you listen closely, you can hear all the business insurance adjusters screaming "goddammit" it unison.

I don't understand.

Because that means they have to pay out.

[El Guapo]

If you listen closely, you can hear all the business insurance adjusters screaming "goddammit" it unison.

I don't understand.

Because that means they have to pay out.

Well, what I hear is the business insurance adjusters calling their lawyers and asking if there's any way to get out of paying under their contracts. Pandemic seems like the kind of escape clause that's likely built into some contracts.

[stessier]

If you listen closely, you can hear all the business insurance adjusters screaming "goddammit" it unison.

I don't understand.

Because that means they have to pay out.

They pay out in a pandemic? Given how all my policies are written, I just figured that meant they wouldn't have to pay out.

[pr0ner]

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1237783848487776256

[wonderpug]

Welp, my state (New Mexico) just joined the party. Three confirmed cases: "a married couple in their 60s from Socorro County who had recently traveled to Egypt and a woman in her 70s from Bernalillo County who had recently traveled to New York City."

Socorro is pretty rural and remote, but Bernalillo County is where Albuquerque is and is the state's most populous county.

[Unagi]

Has there been any news of Trump stopping his rallies?

[Defiant]

He announced a new rally yesterday, so no. Were you expecting something else?

[Isgrimnur]

Two congressmen -- Ted Cruz and Paul Gosar -- self-quarantine.

[Unagi]

He announced a new rally yesterday, so no. Were you expecting something else?

Just really hoping he would keep at it.

[Smoove_B]

They pay out in a pandemic? Given how all my policies are written, I just figured that meant they wouldn't have to pay out.

My wife works for a mid-level insurer and they just had a meeting over what's happening in NY as the state is now reaching out to them asking for clarifications and memorandums clarifying coverage. The official declaration definitely changes things. Policies likely include something about communicable disease business interruption and losses related to civil unrest. Good policies might include something about pandemic influenza (which this isn't), so now corporate lawyers are going to be released from holding to clarify. In short, chaos.

[Isgrimnur]

As with everything, the real winners will be the lawyers over the next decade.

[Smoove_B]

The hearing Dr. Fauci appeared at this morning had him directly contradicting (i.e. telling the truth) the messages that both Trump and Pence have been spouting for weeks. Buckle up:

"Is the worst yet to come, Dr. Fauci?" Rep. Carolyn Maloney, chairwoman of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform, asked Fauci on Wednesday.

"Yes, it is," Fauci replied.

While this coronavirus is being contained in some respects, he testified, the U.S. is seeing more cases emerge through community spread as well as international travel.

"I can say we will see more cases, and things will get worse than they are right now," Fauci said. "How much worse we'll get will depend on our ability to do two things: to contain the influx of people who are infected coming from the outside, and the ability to contain and mitigate within our own country."

He added: "Bottom line, it's going to get worse."

Reminder:

"For most people, COVID-19 infection will cause mild illness; however, it can make some people very ill and, in some people, it can be fatal," the WHO says. "Older people, and those with pre-existing medical conditions (such as cardiovascular disease, chronic respiratory disease or diabetes) are at risk for severe disease."

The most common symptoms of COVID-19, according to a recent WHO report that draws on more than 70,000 cases in China: fever (in 88% of cases); dry cough (68%); fatigue (38%); sputum/phlegm production (33%).

Shortness of breath occurred in nearly 20% of cases, and about 13% had a sore throat or headache, the WHO said.

[El Guapo]

As with everything, the real winners will be the lawyers over the next decade.

God willing.

[Smoove_B]

People have been asking why there are two threads about this? Well, here you go - it's because Trump is a dumbass:

The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.

Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”

I cannot WTF hard enough.

[Dogstar]

Italy's medical staff has their work cut out for them with 200 more deaths and 2000 more cases in just 24 hours. Really, really hope that they get a handle on it, and really, really hope this isn't a preview of the United States in 2-3 weeks.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... n-11955339

[ImLawBoy]

As with everything, the real winners will be the lawyers over the next decade.

God bless America!

[LawBeefaroni]

My mom was in-hospital for surgery yesterday. It was minimally invasive but should probably have a day or two post-op stay. They sent her home saying she is probably safer from the virus outside the hospital rather than in it. My discharge planners here said that wlsounded fishy. Do they know something we don't or were they just trying to lower ALOS?

She's in Tennessee FWIW.

[Isgrimnur]

People have been asking why there are two threads about this? Well, here you go - it's because Trump is a dumbass:

The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

I cannot WTF hard enough.

As with everything, the real winners will be the lawyers over the next decade.