Corona Virus: It's a Marathon, Not a Sprint

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:34 pm

malchior wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:18 pm This is not far off from yelling fire in a theater.

You might benefit from a Popehat refresher on that phrase.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:41 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:34 pm
malchior wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:18 pm This is not far off from yelling fire in a theater.
You might benefit from a Popehat refresher on that phrase.

Fair enough. I'm familiar with this piece. Still the point is there responsibility for spurring on dangerous activity? This isn't anti-war speech. This is telling people in the middle of an epidemic to act in a way designed to increase the danger to the public. Intentional or not. This is dangerous speech and this is a person with a million followers.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:44 pm

The fact that he's a government official apparently acting in that capacity is over the top.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:51 pm

FWIW I imagine this is a violation of Twitter's terms of service. I half expect it to be taken down.

https://twitter.com/SheriffClarke/statu ... 9362246656

Folks, the LEFT has collapsed our institutions that have served us in times of trouble. TAKE...TO ...THE...STREETS. That is the battlefield the LEFT has defined. I will no longer sit back and watch the destruction of this great republic over the FLU.

gameoverman · Post by **gameoverman** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:56 pm

malchior wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:51 pm
Folks, the LEFT has collapsed our institutions that have served us in times of trouble. TAKE...TO ...THE...STREETS. That is the battlefield the LEFT has defined. I will no longer sit back and watch the destruction of this great republic over the FLU.

When I first read that I wondered what the hell the FLU was. Federal Law...? Then I realized he capitalized all the letters in flu.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:17 pm

OMG it gets worse.

'Sheriff' Clarke wrote:Not ONE media outlet has asked about George Soros’s involvement in this FLU panic. He is SOMEWHERE involved in this.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:24 pm

I saw that. The right loves their boogeypeople. The idea that they are faking Italy...is exactly what you'd expect from this stupid, stupid time.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:51 pm

We are the baddies - Covid-19 edition

German officials will discuss a reported U.S. attempt to secure the rights to any coronavirus vaccine developed by a German pharmaceutical company in crisis meetings on Monday, the country's interior minister said, amid concerns that the Trump administration was trying to monopolize the market.

Interior Minister Horst Seehofer, when asked to confirm a report the Trump administration was attempting to secure exclusive rights to any vaccine created by the German biopharmaceutical firm CureVac, said he had “heard from several other members of government today that is the case.”

Germany’s Welt am Sonntag newspaper reported Sunday that the administration wanted to secure the rights and move research and development to the United States. The vaccine would be developed “only for the USA,” the newspaper said.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:52 pm

Twitter needs to step up and shut him down completely for a while.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:17 am

malchior wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:18 pm If this gets bad, is there any way to hold these guys criminally liable? There are limits to free speech. This is not far off from yelling fire in a theater.

Geez, think of what you are doing to Mr Fed's blood pressure! ("Yelling fire in a theater" doesn't mean what you think it means.)

Edit: dang it - BAM'd hours ago!

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:02 am

There was one thought this morning that I woke up with that made me sit bolt upright and start sweating.

Where is Ruth Bader Ginsburg and have we gotten her into a bubble yet. Trump cannot have a third Supreme Court justice.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:32 am

Paingod wrote:There was one thought this morning that I woke up with that made me sit bolt upright and start sweating.

Where is Ruth Bader Ginsburg and have we gotten her into a bubble yet. Trump cannot have a third Supreme Court justice.

Yeah, she needs to be quarantined in a negative pressure room and give opinions remotely! And keep Sotomayor safe for good measure.

Also I hope Fauci stays healthy. He's really pushing himself but he's no stranger to bouncing between news shows, the Hill, and back to the NIH many times in the same day.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:06 am

stessier wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:17 am
malchior wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:18 pm If this gets bad, is there any way to hold these guys criminally liable? There are limits to free speech. This is not far off from yelling fire in a theater.
Geez, think of what you are doing to Mr Fed's blood pressure! ("Yelling fire in a theater" doesn't mean what you think it means.)

Edit: dang it - BAM'd hours ago!

I was very aware about it but was using it in the non-legal sense that most non-Mr. Fed educated people use it.

Still the point remains there are a lot of actors speaking up in dangerous ways. Unfortunately one is the damn President.

Still, I think its fair to wonder where those lines are because idiots like that are potentially causing harm to the public.

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:26 am

Kraken wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:27 pm
malchior wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:37 pm
Skinypupy wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:47 pm I’m guessing they’re going to turn around and sell it, because some people are just colossal douchecanoes.
My friend's father owns a bar and she is saying she's heard some variation of 'it's a hoax because its an election year' all day. It's a real blue collar type of place. I had a 'friend' posting that bullshit on his feed for days as well. I kept reporting it and it kept getting taken down. In the end, these idiots are going to get a lot of people killed.
When we went out last Tuesday, we got to chatting with our server about business and disease and stuff, and she brought up that meme on her phone -- we've all seen it. I sized her up to decide if she was educable. Decided "nope," glossed it over and changed the subject. Either she'll figure it out herself in the next two weeks, or we'll have dodged the plague and she'll feel validated. Nothing I could've said would've changed that calculus. (Plus I'm not verbally persuasive in the best circumstances.)

Just start coughing in her general direction and see what happens...

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:31 am

Dow down 2,250 points at the open.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:39 am

malchior wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:06 am
stessier wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:17 am
malchior wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:18 pm If this gets bad, is there any way to hold these guys criminally liable? There are limits to free speech. This is not far off from yelling fire in a theater.
Geez, think of what you are doing to Mr Fed's blood pressure! ("Yelling fire in a theater" doesn't mean what you think it means.)

Edit: dang it - BAM'd hours ago!
I was very aware about it but was using it in the non-legal sense that most non-Mr. Fed educated people use it.

Still the point remains there are a lot of actors speaking up in dangerous ways. Unfortunately one is the damn President. Still, I think its fair to wonder where those lines are because idiots like that are potentially causing harm to the public.

Read up on Popehat or listen to his fantastic 8 episode podcast series on Free Speech - Make No Law.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:45 am

So that didn't take long. Trading is halted.

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:49 am

So is he going to sign the chart from today?

We're so fucked in so many ways. Oh and my IT company is not letting anyone work from home. So when you see an outbreak in NE Jersey you know where it started.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:50 am

$iljanus wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:45 am So that didn't take long. Trading is halted.

It's back on and heading towards 2nd breaker already.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:53 am

$iljanus wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:45 am So that didn't take long. Trading is halted.

It was known before the open that it would halt. It was just a matter of actually triggering.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:25 am

Octavious wrote:So is he going to sign the chart from today? We're so fucked in so many ways. Oh and my IT company is not letting anyone work from home. So when you see an outbreak in NE Jersey you know where it started.

Did they at least provide a boat so you could get to work?

We all know that your company sucks. The question is how long you’re willing to put up with it.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:30 am

Octavious wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:49 am So is he going to sign the chart from today? We're so fucked in so many ways. Oh and my IT company is not letting anyone work from home. So when you see an outbreak in NE Jersey you know where it started.

I still don't know why I have to be in the office, and not just Corona-virus related but almost ever. 99% of the work I do could be done from home, and that 1% could be scheduled. Unless one of my local area minions are on vacation, I am never called upon to physically address a problem at any of my plants.

You would think a prudent plan would be to immediately insist all people who can WFH do, which in of itself reduces the change of a widespread outbreak among those who have to work at the facility. Then at least people like me could form a line of reserves so in case one or more front-line techs go down, we still have support available.

Then again, given my wife is a medical professional at a facility that currently has no masks available, at the moment it's probably safer at the office. This plant has hundreds of workers during the day shift, though; the governor is closing all of the fun places to be where crowds gather, but not workplaces that concentrate so many people?

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:33 am

$iljanus wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:32 am
Paingod wrote:There was one thought this morning that I woke up with that made me sit bolt upright and start sweating.

Where is Ruth Bader Ginsburg and have we gotten her into a bubble yet. Trump cannot have a third Supreme Court justice.
Yeah, she needs to be quarantined in a negative pressure room and give opinions remotely! And keep Sotomayor safe for good measure.

Also Breyer, who's 81.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:52 am

Defiant wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:33 am
$iljanus wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:32 am
Paingod wrote:There was one thought this morning that I woke up with that made me sit bolt upright and start sweating.

Where is Ruth Bader Ginsburg and have we gotten her into a bubble yet. Trump cannot have a third Supreme Court justice.
Yeah, she needs to be quarantined in a negative pressure room and give opinions remotely! And keep Sotomayor safe for good measure.

Also Breyer, who's 81.

I thought the precedent was now "no new justices within a year of an election".

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:52 am

Isgrimnur wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:25 am
Octavious wrote:So is he going to sign the chart from today? We're so fucked in so many ways. Oh and my IT company is not letting anyone work from home. So when you see an outbreak in NE Jersey you know where it started.
Did they at least provide a boat so you could get to work?

We all know that your company sucks. The question is how long you’re willing to put up with it.

Apparently a decade too long.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:04 am

Anti-inflammatories may aggravate Covid-19, France advises

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:17 am

Jeff V wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:52 am
Defiant wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:33 am
$iljanus wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:32 am
Paingod wrote:There was one thought this morning that I woke up with that made me sit bolt upright and start sweating.

Where is Ruth Bader Ginsburg and have we gotten her into a bubble yet. Trump cannot have a third Supreme Court justice.
Yeah, she needs to be quarantined in a negative pressure room and give opinions remotely! And keep Sotomayor safe for good measure.

Also Breyer, who's 81.
I thought the precedent was now "no new justices within a year of an election".

That was Mitch's thinking to thwart Obama. I'm sure he's had a change of heart by now.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:29 am

NJ/NY/CT announce joint state-wide shutdowns for 8 PM edit: UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. All casinos, restaurants, bars, movie theaters, and gyms...so far. Take out only for indefinite future.

Also, ouch!

https://twitter.com/JeremyKlemin/status ... 2521859073

Edit: The announcement is confusing but apparently this is a lock down.

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:00 pm

Paingod wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:17 am
Jeff V wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:52 am
Defiant wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:33 am
$iljanus wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:32 am
Paingod wrote:There was one thought this morning that I woke up with that made me sit bolt upright and start sweating.

Where is Ruth Bader Ginsburg and have we gotten her into a bubble yet. Trump cannot have a third Supreme Court justice.
Yeah, she needs to be quarantined in a negative pressure room and give opinions remotely! And keep Sotomayor safe for good measure.

Also Breyer, who's 81.
I thought the precedent was now "no new justices within a year of an election".
That was Mitch's thinking to thwart Obama. I'm sure he's had a change of heart by now.

He's already publicly stated that his actions were not precedent. He'd ram through a SCOTUS appointment made by Trump even if it came a week before Trump was to leave office.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:02 pm

ImLawBoy wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:00 pm
Paingod wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:17 am
Jeff V wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:52 am
Defiant wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:33 am
$iljanus wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:32 am
Paingod wrote:There was one thought this morning that I woke up with that made me sit bolt upright and start sweating.

Where is Ruth Bader Ginsburg and have we gotten her into a bubble yet. Trump cannot have a third Supreme Court justice.
Yeah, she needs to be quarantined in a negative pressure room and give opinions remotely! And keep Sotomayor safe for good measure.

Also Breyer, who's 81.
I thought the precedent was now "no new justices within a year of an election".
That was Mitch's thinking to thwart Obama. I'm sure he's had a change of heart by now.
He's already publicly stated that his actions were not precedent. He'd ram through a SCOTUS appointment made by Trump even if it came a week before Trump was to leave office.

Yeah he revels in owning the libs. Being an asshole fuels his evil heart.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:40 pm

Romney: "Every American adult should immediately receive $1,000 to help ensure families and workers can meet their short-term obligations and increase spending in the economy"

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/202 ... ronavirus/

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:43 pm

And who's going to foot that $209B?

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:45 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:43 pm And who's going to foot that $209B?

Don't worry the kids have got this. They should means test anything anyway. I don't need $1000. Let's get the right help to the people who need it.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:46 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:43 pm And who's going to foot that $209B?

With interest rates so low, US Bond buyers likely.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:19 pm

The Department of Health and Human Services experienced a form of cyberattack Sunday night related to its coronavirus response in an attempt to slow down its operations, administration sources confirmed to ABC News Monday.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/cyberattack-h ... ories.html

Sickening.

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:19 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:43 pm And who's going to foot that $209B?

Isn't it obvious? Corporate tax cut will pay for it!

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:21 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:43 pm And who's going to foot that $209B?

That's what the Democratic administration can figure out in January.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:38 pm

If this paper is correct, it's some positive news for when the temperature starts to rise:

High Temperature and High Humidity Reduce the Transmission of COVID-19

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:47 pm

Defiant wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:38 pm If this paper is correct, it's some positive news for when the temperature starts to rise:

High Temperature and High Humidity Reduce the Transmission of COVID-19

So we just need to wait for April and then this won't be a problem anymore?

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:48 pm

Projection.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 0669699073

Just had a very good tele-conference with Nations’s Governors. Went very well. Cuomo of New York has to “do more”.