Corona Virus: It's a Marathon, Not a Sprint

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Wed May 06, 2020 2:26 pm

El Guapo wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 2:04 pm
Skinypupy wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 1:57 pm Yesterday: Utah's governor signs a bill shielding businesses from litigation brought by people (including employees) who contract coronavirus on their property.

Today: 68 people infected by two businesses who knowingly didn't follow COVID-19 safety protocols.

So, employers have no obligation to provide any sort of protection for employees AND employees will have no legal recourse if they get sick at work AND they can be fired (which means they can't collect unemployment) if they decide returning to work isn't safe.

This re-opening plan is awesome!
The "tomorrow" phase will no doubt be voting restrictions to make it harder for the employees to vote in November.

Utah is, surprisingly, one of the sane states that allows vote-by-mail. It wouldn't surprise me a bit to see them try and roll that back.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Wed May 06, 2020 2:39 pm

https://twitter.com/MarshaBlackburn/sta ... 9s-manager

Every time I think they couldn't possibly do anything stupider...

hitbyambulance · Post by **hitbyambulance** » Wed May 06, 2020 3:04 pm

the 'party of personal responsibility' sure looks like the 'party of pass the buck and blame everyone/everything else' instead

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Wed May 06, 2020 3:10 pm

How can they reconcile that with their other narrative that this is an unforseeable "Act of God" and that governments, corporations, businesses, and individuals cannot be at fault for the consequences? Holding China accountable is the exact opposite of that line.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Wed May 06, 2020 3:14 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 3:10 pmHow can they reconcile that with their other narrative that this is an unforseeable "Act of God" and that governments, corporations, businesses, and individuals cannot be at fault for the consequences? Holding China accountable is the exact opposite of that line.

It's the same way they can be Pro-Life for women's rights but Kill-Senior for the economy.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed May 06, 2020 3:41 pm

This kind of surprises me. I guess we all have our own personal hill to dye on.

A hair salon owner in Texas was ordered to spend a week in jail after she continued to operate her business despite restrictions put in place because of the coronavirus pandemic.

Shelley Luther was booked in the Dallas County jail on Tuesday afternoon following a video hearing, during which she was found in contempt of court. The hearing occurred as Gov. Greg Abbott relaxed more restrictions statewide, allowing barbershops and hair salons to reopen Friday.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Wed May 06, 2020 3:47 pm

https://twitter.com/AliceOllstein/statu ... 0647817216

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed May 06, 2020 3:49 pm

A perfect example of evidence Trump and the administration has been actively working against efforts to deal with this from the beginning. It's astounding.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Wed May 06, 2020 3:50 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 3:41 pm This kind of surprises me. I guess we all have our own personal hill to dye on.

A hair salon owner in Texas was ordered to spend a week in jail after she continued to operate her business despite restrictions put in place because of the coronavirus pandemic.

Shelley Luther was booked in the Dallas County jail on Tuesday afternoon following a video hearing, during which she was found in contempt of court. The hearing occurred as Gov. Greg Abbott relaxed more restrictions statewide, allowing barbershops and hair salons to reopen Friday.

She got jail time for violating a restraining order that she got after she violated the stay-at-home order. In other words, she was given a second chance and a clear warning and she still refused to comply. When she gets out of jail she can collect her GoFundMe hoard take a job on some GOP staff.

Boo fucking hoo.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed May 06, 2020 3:53 pm

Oh, our state AG and governor are already stating that the judge overstepped his authority and she should be released immediately.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Wed May 06, 2020 3:59 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 3:41 pm I guess we all have our own personal hill to dye on.

Also, nice one.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed May 06, 2020 4:01 pm

I'm guessing that she's some true believer nutjob, but there's also the cynical angle that she's trying to build up credit and publicity in Trumpworld, either to run for office or to cash in as a media figure.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed May 06, 2020 4:02 pm

Conservative Militia Group Prepares For Societal Collapse By Training As Hairstylists, Nail Technicians.

GRAND RAPIDS, MI—Training night and day in an abandoned strip mall complex, a conservative militia group has been preparing for societal collapse by training as hairstylists, nail technicians, and cosmetologists, sources confirmed Wednesday. “When the shit hits the fan, we’ll be the ones who are ready to take care of ourselves with the latest hair colors, nail applications, and specialized skin-care treatments,” militia member Wayne Donnell, 54, said as he drilled a group of children, some as young as 7, in the basics of administering a seaweed body wrap. “We’re actively recruiting tanning bed operators to join the fight, and we’re stockpiling styling gel so we’ll have something to barter after the dollar flatlines. Of course, we also have a bunker full of diesel generators, which are crucial if you want to be able to operate hair dryers and curling irons off the grid. I’d advise others to do likewise. If you and every member of your family can’t at least execute a decent mani-pedi, then brother, there ain’t gonna be much hope for you under the New World Order.” Donnell went on to state that those who failed to prepare for the fall of society had better not come crying to him when they needed a Brazilian blowout.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Wed May 06, 2020 4:08 pm

Since we're on the topic of masks... On my morning run, maybe 10-15% of the folks I saw had masks on. This is on county paths.

I got a few looks for mine.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed May 06, 2020 4:12 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 3:49 pm A perfect example of evidence Trump and the administration has been actively working against efforts to deal with this from the beginning. It's astounding.

Here comes their next trick:

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status ... 51073?s=20

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Wed May 06, 2020 4:25 pm

Holman wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 4:12 pm
Smoove_B wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 3:49 pm A perfect example of evidence Trump and the administration has been actively working against efforts to deal with this from the beginning. It's astounding.
Here comes their next trick:

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status ... 51073?s=20

That's not a next trick. That's been the primary trick for weeks. That everyone is being pressured to report every body who dies with COVID19 as COVID19 being the cause of death. As if Soros is out there controlling "the governors" now that he can't control the president and the governors are making the COD always COVID19. The forgets the fact that you know COVID isn't actually killing. Proximate causes like Pneumonia or stroke or heart failure or lungs swelling shut are killing them just like they do when we talk about the amount of dying from flu or HIV. I hadn't blocked people on social media since the great purging around the 2016 election. Then this shit started getting flung around and I found my anger rising.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Wed May 06, 2020 4:28 pm

I went through the other night and unfollowed every person who had anything pro-Trump or COVID conspiracy on my timeline. I'm OK disagreeing on political views. I'm not OK disagreeing on what constitutes reality.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Wed May 06, 2020 4:28 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 4:08 pm Since we're on the topic of masks... On my morning run, maybe 10-15% of the folks I saw had masks on. This is on county paths.

I got a few looks for mine.

I wear one around my neck on my morning walks down residential streets, and only deploy it when I can't give other walkers a wide berth. People diligently stay as far apart as possible, but it's there if I need it.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed May 06, 2020 4:29 pm

I ordered a pair of scrubs for my new shopping outfit.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Wed May 06, 2020 4:31 pm

Kraken wrote:
Zaxxon wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 4:08 pm Since we're on the topic of masks... On my morning run, maybe 10-15% of the folks I saw had masks on. This is on county paths.

I got a few looks for mine.
I wear one around my neck on my morning walks down residential streets, and only deploy it when I can't give other walkers a wide berth. People diligently stay as far apart as possible, but it's there if I need it.

Same, but I pull it up whenever nearing folks.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Wed May 06, 2020 4:44 pm

YellowKing wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 4:28 pm conspiracy

Forget Trump or even GOP. I thought I purged them all on all sides (admittedly a majority were Trump propagandists but Occupy Democrat and the other 98% propagandists and the like all went too) I guess we as a nation are getting worse because I went from "come on now, you're better than that" to "fuck this shit I'm out" in about two days sometime in early April.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Wed May 06, 2020 4:47 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 4:08 pm Since we're on the topic of masks... On my morning run, maybe 10-15% of the folks I saw had masks on. This is on county paths.

I got a few looks for mine.

"Sorry for my efforts to keep you from getting sick."

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Wed May 06, 2020 4:49 pm

The whole problem with the face mask thing just boggles my mind. These businesses, which are already opening earlier than they probably should, are asking people to do the *bare minimum* to protect themselves and their employees, and they won't do it.

ALMOST ALL BUSINESSES ALREADY HAVE CONDITIONS ON ENTERING THEIR STORES.

- Must wear shirt and shoes
- No smoking
- No outside food or drink
- No weapons allowed
- Service animals only

I presume these people follow those rules without pitching a fit or marching on the capitol building. So why can't they wear a damn face mask for 15 minutes?

It irritates me because the same people who have been bitching for WEEKS about not being able to go do their business have been given the opportunity, and won't take it because of the face mask thing.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed May 06, 2020 5:05 pm

YellowKing wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 4:49 pm The whole problem with the face mask thing just boggles my mind. These businesses, which are already opening earlier than they probably should, are asking people to do the *bare minimum* to protect themselves and their employees, and they won't do it.

ALMOST ALL BUSINESSES ALREADY HAVE CONDITIONS ON ENTERING THEIR STORES.

- Must wear shirt and shoes
- No smoking
- No outside food or drink
- No weapons allowed
- Service animals only

I presume these people follow those rules without pitching a fit or marching on the capitol building. So why can't they wear a damn face mask for 15 minutes?

It irritates me because the same people who have been bitching for WEEKS about not being able to go do their business have been given the opportunity, and won't take it because of the face mask thing.

So my main takeaway from this is that you hate freedom.

Z-Corn · Post by **Z-Corn** » Wed May 06, 2020 5:35 pm

My sister has been living in Alaska the past few years working in either the fishing or tourism industry. Everything has collapsed in both fields there and her summer job prospects kept getting delayed and pushed back later and later. So she decided to move back to MI just to at least be able to live cheaper.

Money was one factor for coming back here but another big thing was her unique and terrifying living situation. The town she lived in had under 400 permanent residents and was only accessible via a tunnel through the mountain that was open about 12 hours a day. And it was a $13 toll through the mountain.

The terrifying part is that most of the 400 residents all live in a single apartment building. Everybody lives right on top and next to each other and is always indoors by 9:00 PM in a concentrated area. That is a pandemic tragedy just waiting to happen.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed May 06, 2020 5:44 pm

Gizmodo on Whittier, AK.

Dogstar · Post by **Dogstar** » Wed May 06, 2020 7:58 pm

The Plandemic video is spreading faster than zombies in 28 Days Later. <Sigh.>

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed May 06, 2020 8:14 pm

Dogstar wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 7:58 pm The Plandemic video is spreading faster than zombies in 28 Days Later. <Sigh.>

heavy.com coverage

The video – described on the Plandemic website as a 25-minute vignette in advance of the movie’s release – features Mikovits, a former chronic fatigue researcher who sharply criticizes Dr. Anthony Fauci and mass vaccinations. She argues that the government’s response to coronavirus is designed to inflate profits at the risk of lives. Mikovits is a controversial researcher who was co-author of a discredited research study.
...
Snopes claims Mikovits appears on “unreliable websites,” and gives talks at “fringe conferences such as The Truth About Cancer and Autism One.” Concluded Snopes, “Mikovits’ speculative claims linking her research to vaccine science, drawing the ire of ‘Big Pharma’ and the ‘Deep State,’ and her subsequent arrest are not rooted in science or reality.”

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Wed May 06, 2020 8:24 pm

All my derp canaries are posting about it so yeah...like wildfire. They are self-identifying as idiots.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Wed May 06, 2020 8:36 pm

malchior wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 8:24 pm All my derp canaries are posting about it so yeah...like wildfire. They are self-identifying as idiots.

Same here, including heavy promotion from a couple of doctors in my neighborhood...which is depressing.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed May 06, 2020 9:13 pm

Skinypupy wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 8:36 pmSame here, including heavy promotion from a couple of doctors in my neighborhood...which is depressing.

When the vaccination surveys for hospitals and influenza came out ~10 years ago and you could see how many doctors and nurses that work F/T at hospitals and continuing care centers refused to vaccinate themselves, it was a real sobering moment for me in public health. If doctors and nurses can't be convinced of the importance, I'm supposed to convince the general public?

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Wed May 06, 2020 10:41 pm

I never heard that...has anyone ever dug into why these doctors/nurses don't vaccinate? Also, what health system allows them to practice like that? I consulted at a major healthcare providers in the Carolinas and they made me run a massive gamut of vaccinations and titers. I was in a cybersecurity space that was nowhere near a medical facility. The closest I came to the hospital was a brief visit to the badge office at one facility. They marched us into a room to get flu vaccinations at the beginning of flu season. It wasn't optional.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed May 06, 2020 10:55 pm

After that survey came out (and others followed), initially states started to pass laws requiring it - which of course were shot down. After regrouping, the states said that a condition of a hospital to maintain it's license with the state, they needed to adopt vaccination policies for employees. Many states had a "get vaccinated or get fired" policy enacted, but some did allow for objectors to be switched into different areas unrelated to direct patient care. Nurses were fired over refusal to vaccinate, but it was upheld in courts. Came to a head here in NJ around 2015.

You can read up about the history of it here if you're so inclined.

As mentioned up-thread, I fully expect it to be an issue if (when, for those with hope) a vaccination for COVID-19 is developed.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu May 07, 2020 12:10 am

Latest Pentagon acknowledged memorandum states no one who has ever tested positive for Covid 19 can ever join the military. So anyone who ever had it is permanently disqualified for military service.

Enough · Post by **Enough** » Thu May 07, 2020 12:16 am

Daehawk wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 12:10 am Latest Pentagon acknowledged memorandum states no one who has ever tested positive for Covid 19 can ever join the military. So anyone who ever had it is permanently disqualified for military service.

Linkage?

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Thu May 07, 2020 12:44 am

Smoove_B wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 3:41 pm This kind of surprises me. I guess we all have our own personal hill to dye on.

A hair salon owner in Texas was ordered to spend a week in jail after she continued to operate her business despite restrictions put in place because of the coronavirus pandemic.

Shelley Luther was booked in the Dallas County jail on Tuesday afternoon following a video hearing, during which she was found in contempt of court. The hearing occurred as Gov. Greg Abbott relaxed more restrictions statewide, allowing barbershops and hair salons to reopen Friday.

Every struggle needs a Rosa Parks. :rimshot: for the pun.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Thu May 07, 2020 6:06 am

Enough wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 12:16 am
Daehawk wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 12:10 am Latest Pentagon acknowledged memorandum states no one who has ever tested positive for Covid 19 can ever join the military. So anyone who ever had it is permanently disqualified for military service.
Linkage?

Find that extremely difficult to believe.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Thu May 07, 2020 7:38 am

Got how to love how the use of experts is always some pretext sham with the GOP nowadays.

https://mobile.twitter.com/kylegriffin1 ... 6461840385

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu May 07, 2020 7:53 am

LawBeefaroni wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 6:06 am
Enough wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 12:16 am
Daehawk wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 12:10 am Latest Pentagon acknowledged memorandum states no one who has ever tested positive for Covid 19 can ever join the military. So anyone who ever had it is permanently disqualified for military service.
Linkage?
Find that extremely difficult to believe.

It’s temporary. (And seeming stupid)

It’s mentioned in the link shared above by malchior.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu May 07, 2020 8:03 am

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/06/us/c ... k-3852043b

Arizona suspends modeling team that suggests reopening should have been delayed longer.