Corona Virus: It's a Marathon, Not a Sprint

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Fri May 08, 2020 2:47 pm

Can only hope .

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri May 08, 2020 4:31 pm

If Trump got coronavirus, I'm not sure whether he'd be in more danger from the virus, or from everything that he'd ingest to try to treat it.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Fri May 08, 2020 5:33 pm

Trump, discussing the news that Stephen Miller's wife has tested positive.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1258838201818476544

Trump: Katie, she tested very good for a long period of time and then all of the sudden today she tested positive... This is why the whole concept of tests aren’t necessarily great

The depths of his sheer stupidity truly knows no bounds.

Dogstar · Post by **Dogstar** » Fri May 08, 2020 6:12 pm

The draft CDC guide for reopening just leaked.

They have a link to the PDF in their article. It'll be interesting to see how the final guidelines differ.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri May 08, 2020 6:35 pm

Skinypupy wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 5:33 pm Trump, discussing the news that Stephen Miller's wife has tested positive.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1258838201818476544

Trump: Katie, she tested very good for a long period of time and then all of the sudden today she tested positive... This is why the whole concept of tests aren’t necessarily great
The depths of his sheer stupidity truly knows no bounds.

It works though. Tests are bad for your agenda. Something happens that may reflect bad on you. Blame the tests. What is true doesn't matter. Two birds, one stone.

Freyland · Post by **Freyland** » Fri May 08, 2020 7:13 pm

Skinypupy wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 5:33 pm Trump, discussing the news that Stephen Miller's wife has tested positive.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1258838201818476544

Trump: Katie, she tested very good for a long period of time and then all of the sudden today she tested positive... This is why the whole concept of tests aren’t necessarily great
The depths of his sheer stupidity truly knows no bounds.

No words....

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Fri May 08, 2020 7:17 pm

He does understand that tests don't *cause* the virus right? Right?

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Fri May 08, 2020 7:18 pm

YellowKing wrote:He does understand that tests don't *cause* the virus right? Right?

Who knows? Sometimes you just test positive after so many tests say you're negative. I'm just asking questions.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri May 08, 2020 7:22 pm

Well, 100% of the confirmed positive cases had the test just prior to being confirmed. That can't be coincidence!

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Fri May 08, 2020 7:23 pm

Blackhawk wrote:Well, 100% of the confirmed positive cases had the test just prior to being confirmed. That can't be coincidence!

True. Can't deny the evidence.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Fri May 08, 2020 7:34 pm

At least we know that Pence is safe from being infected by Miller. There is a zero percent chance that he's ever been in close contact with a female staff membmer.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Fri May 08, 2020 8:15 pm

Max Peck wrote:At least we know that Pence is safe from being infected by Miller. There is a zero percent chance that he's ever been in close contact with a female staff membmer.

Well, that or he and his wife both will be sick.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Fri May 08, 2020 9:46 pm

As much as I would love to see Covid tear merrily through the White House, there isn't that much justice in the world.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Fri May 08, 2020 10:10 pm

Meanwhile, Roy (of Sigfried and Roy) died today of COVID-19.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri May 08, 2020 10:21 pm

CNN

The European Union has acknowledged it allowed the Chinese government to censor an opinion piece published in the country, removing a reference to the origin of the coronavirus outbreak and its subsequent spread worldwide.

The piece was jointly authored by the EU's ambassador Nicolas Chapuis along with the ambassadors to China for the EU's 27 member states to mark 45 years of EU-China diplomatic relations.

In the original piece published on the EU delegation's website, the ambassadors wrote that "the outbreak of the coronavirus in China, and its subsequent spread to the rest of the world over the past three months" had side-tracked pre-existing diplomatic plans.

But in the version that appears on the website of China Daily, a state-owned newspaper, the reference to the origin of coronavirus in China and its spread is removed.

While the EU Delegation to China said it "strongly regrets" the change, it also admitted that it ultimately agreed for the censored piece to be published because it still contained "key messages on a number of our priority areas."

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Fri May 08, 2020 10:22 pm

Dogstar wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 6:12 pm The draft CDC guide for reopening just leaked.

They have a link to the PDF in their article. It'll be interesting to see how the final guidelines differ.

There has been further reporting from the AP.

The decision to shelve detailed advice from the nation’s top disease control experts for reopening communities during the coronavirus pandemic came from the highest levels of the White House, according to internal government emails obtained by The Associated Press.

The files also show that after the AP reported Thursday that the guidance document had been buried, the Trump administration ordered key parts of it to be fast-tracked for approval.

The trove of emails show the nation’s top public health experts at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention spending weeks working on guidance to help the country deal with a public health emergency, only to see their work quashed by political appointees with little explanation.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri May 08, 2020 11:15 pm

And here you go:

https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/statu ... 6439104516

Kayleigh McEnany gave away the game today. She told reporters that the White House is operating safely, *because it has testing and tracing.* But Trump won't create the robust federal testing regime that would allow the rest of us to have that.

What I've been saying for weeks. They're not ignorant - they know exactly what needs to be done. This is absolutely malfeasance.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Sat May 09, 2020 7:56 am

Reading about how those in the White House are flaunting the most basic protocols for protecting oneself during a disease outbreak I find myself rooting for the virus to do what viruses do.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

I think the Jared shadow government needs to get in on that stupidity too.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Sat May 09, 2020 8:00 am

A reporter needs to ask him about his concerns as a high-risk individual, being elderly and obese. That would send him apoplectic and maskless into the streets to prove his healthiest man alive status.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sat May 09, 2020 9:21 am

LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 6:35 pm
Skinypupy wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 5:33 pm Trump, discussing the news that Stephen Miller's wife has tested positive.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1258838201818476544

Trump: Katie, she tested very good for a long period of time and then all of the sudden today she tested positive... This is why the whole concept of tests aren’t necessarily great
The depths of his sheer stupidity truly knows no bounds.
It works though. Tests are bad for your agenda. Something happens that may reflect bad on you. Blame the tests. What is true doesn't matter. Two birds, one stone.

But it’s absurd.
They tested her for a reason, and that was to remove her from circulation when and if she tested positive. And now that she is positive, she is removed from circulation.

It’s clearly a great example of why we want testing.

(I know you know )

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Sat May 09, 2020 9:51 am

Skinypupy wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 5:33 pm Trump, discussing the news that Stephen Miller's wife has tested positive.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1258838201818476544

Trump: Katie, she tested very good for a long period of time and then all of the sudden today she tested positive... This is why the whole concept of tests aren’t necessarily great
The depths of his sheer stupidity truly knows no bounds.

If you listen to the whole thing it's worse.

Also the problem with testing, we're testing all of the time and this happens. No one knows how. But let's go back to work. no tests. But White house are going to start testing daily.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sat May 09, 2020 10:32 am

And they will never make the connection as to why it’s pointless for them to say Pence wears no mask because he’s recently tested negative.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Sat May 09, 2020 10:43 am

Make no mistake. The lack of masks for Pence and Trump has nothing to do with their ignorance over testing. Instead, it's their way of communicating that (to them) this is all nonsense and wearing a mask is absurd. They know the eyes of the world are upon them and that they cannot be seen wearing the oppressive symbol of the libs. And of course, this has the desired impact because the MAGAt cultists see dear leader out and about, not wearing a mask or following the advice of the power-drunk local officials. The mixed messaging on this entire response is off the charts and it continues to undermine efforts.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Sat May 09, 2020 1:14 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 10:43 am Make no mistake. The lack of masks for Pence and Trump has nothing to do with their ignorance over testing. Instead, it's their way of communicating that (to them) this is all nonsense and wearing a mask is absurd. They know the eyes of the world are upon them and that they cannot be seen wearing the oppressive symbol of the libs. And of course, this has the desired impact because the MAGAt cultists see dear leader out and about, not wearing a mask or following the advice of the power-drunk local officials. The mixed messaging on this entire response is off the charts and it continues to undermine efforts.

Exactly. These guys sit in briefings with the top experts in the country. They heard all the facts. The decision they made to go out in public without masks is intentional politics at its most craven and evil.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Sat May 09, 2020 1:36 pm

Ivanka's assistant now.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/ivanka-tr ... use-staff/

Why just aides, assistants, and valets, so far?

Dogstar · Post by **Dogstar** » Sat May 09, 2020 1:38 pm

I hope this isn't a trend nationwide. Central PA is rebelling against Governor Wolf's stay-at-home order which got extended until June 4th.

Two counties' sheriffs announced they will not be enforcing shutdown. Another two counties announced their intention to open despite being significantly over the threshold of new cases per 100,000. My own county, York, just announced they will not be citing anyone or enforcing the shutdown.

I think the Supreme Court's decision to not take up the case against Wolf in conjunction with the stay-at-home order being extended until June 4th for most of southern PA pretty much were the last straws for people locally. Even before that, there was a sense of "they can't arrest or cite everyone."

It'll be interesting to see what governors will do with county and local officials (let alone businesses) that disobey. There aren't enough state police to remotely enforce things, yet if the governors don't act in some manner, people will realize any future orders are toothless leading to a much lower compliance rate. Moreover, if businesses are going to open haphazardly without necessarily following guidance or planning from the state, it's a mess from a liability and safety standpoint. I would guess that means we're more likely to have Lockdown #2 Electrico Bugaloo, and that fewer people are going to comply.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Sat May 09, 2020 2:11 pm

I've already accepted that we're screwed in terms of "getting back to normal" - or anything even approaching normal - anytime soon. We have too many entitled people in this country that know better than the experts.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sat May 09, 2020 2:34 pm

Weaponized stupidity is a hell of a drug.

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Sat May 09, 2020 2:59 pm

Alefroth wrote:Ivanka's assistant now.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/ivanka-tr ... use-staff/

Why just aides, assistants, and valets, so far?

I just want at least one of them to truly suffer.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Sat May 09, 2020 3:02 pm

Alefroth wrote:Ivanka's assistant now.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/ivanka-tr ... use-staff/

Why just aides, assistants, and valets, so far?

Do you really believe that if Trump tested positive he'd immediately make that public?

hitbyambulance · Post by **hitbyambulance** » Sat May 09, 2020 4:07 pm

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne ... -by-trump/

Enrollment in several clinical trials of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine — including two by the University of Washington — has been anemic so far. Fewer than 260 volunteers, out of a target of 2,000, have signed up for a $9.5 million UW study being conducted in Seattle and six other sites across the country. Another multi-site project coordinated by the UW has only about 30 patients enrolled.

Researchers say enrollment in the trials plummeted after preliminary reports of possible heart arrhythmias associated with the drugs, followed by a U.S. Food and Drug Administration warning that they should be administered only in hospitals or clinical trials.

“Once that news came out, our enrollment fell almost down to zero,” said UW epidemiologist Dr. Ruanne Barnabas, who’s leading a study to find out if hydroxychloroquine can prevent infection in people like health-care workers who have been exposed to the virus.

Barnabas and other researchers say the potential risks of the drugs have been exaggerated in the heated political controversy ignited when Trump first began promoting them. Critics of the president blasted him for touting unproven medications, while his supporters have accused scientists of cover-ups and conspiracies.

Some people poisoned themselves by taking high doses of the drugs or related chemicals, thinking they would provide protection from the novel coronavirus.

Now, the randomized, controlled trials necessary to settle the debate are threatened.

“We need an adequate number of people to enroll to know what the effectiveness is with confidence,” Barnabas said.

A group of researchers at Columbia University say they are pulling the plug on a similar clinical trial, partly as a result of flagging enrollment.

“The problem with all the exposure that hydroxychloroquine has received is that at first, everybody wanted to take it… and now nobody wants to take it,” said Dr. Jon Giles, leader of the Columbia project. “It’s gone from one extreme that’s bad for science to another extreme, which is also not good for science.”

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sat May 09, 2020 4:10 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 3:02 pm
Alefroth wrote:Ivanka's assistant now.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/ivanka-tr ... use-staff/

Why just aides, assistants, and valets, so far?
Do you really believe that if Trump tested positive he'd immediately make that public?

Worst Timeline requires that all Trumps are asymptomatic superspreaders.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sat May 09, 2020 4:13 pm

If Trump says its good for you I know better than to ever take it. With Trump its always opposite day.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Sat May 09, 2020 4:52 pm

RunningMn9 wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 2:59 pm
Alefroth wrote:Ivanka's assistant now.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/ivanka-tr ... use-staff/

Why just aides, assistants, and valets, so far?
I just want at least one of them to truly suffer.

A Boris Johnson style brush with death might be just what the doctor ordered.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Sat May 09, 2020 4:54 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 3:02 pm
Alefroth wrote:Ivanka's assistant now.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/ivanka-tr ... use-staff/

Why just aides, assistants, and valets, so far?
Do you really believe that if Trump tested positive he'd immediately make that public?

Point taken. Wonder if Pelosi has made any plans for if both Trump and Pence were incapacitated simultaneously.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Sat May 09, 2020 6:40 pm

Alefroth wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 4:54 pm
Point taken. Wonder if Pelosi has made any plans for if both Trump and Pence were incapacitated simultaneously.

The biggest social distancing party the world has ever seen?

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Sat May 09, 2020 8:36 pm

Alefroth wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 4:52 pm
RunningMn9 wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 2:59 pm
Alefroth wrote:Ivanka's assistant now.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/ivanka-tr ... use-staff/

Why just aides, assistants, and valets, so far?
I just want at least one of them to truly suffer.
A Boris Johnson style brush with death might be just what the doctor ordered.

I'd really prefer he just go all the way over the edge instead of just to it like Johnson did. A long, lingering, painful death just like the one he is giving justice and unity in this nation.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sat May 09, 2020 9:16 pm

https://twitter.com/mattgertz/status/12 ... 58372?s=21

The president’s new favorite media outlet explains the crisis...

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Sat May 09, 2020 9:16 pm

Remus West wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 8:36 pm
Alefroth wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 4:52 pm
RunningMn9 wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 2:59 pm
Alefroth wrote:Ivanka's assistant now.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/ivanka-tr ... use-staff/

Why just aides, assistants, and valets, so far?
I just want at least one of them to truly suffer.
A Boris Johnson style brush with death might be just what the doctor ordered.
I'd really prefer he just go all the way over the edge instead of just to it like Johnson did. A long, lingering, painful death just like the one he is giving justice and unity in this nation.

There isn't enough justice in the world, karmic or otherwise, to take down this grifter.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sat May 09, 2020 9:20 pm

Parts of the White House will undergo "heightened levels of cleaning," memo says

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/cor ... 2f7562ac3f

Hope it removes the infestation in the oval office.