Corona Virus: It's a Marathon, Not a Sprint

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon May 18, 2020 2:29 pm

Im pretty sure the world has jumped the shark.

Man. And I was pretty much a misanthrope like Yeeears ago.

I’m hitting bedrock, I cannot dig any deeper !

Z-Corn · Post by **Z-Corn** » Mon May 18, 2020 2:54 pm

$50 million worth of bottle and can deposits waiting to be redeemed.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon May 18, 2020 2:57 pm

Z-Corn wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 2:54 pm $50 million worth of bottle and can deposits waiting to be redeemed.

Lol. Oh Michigan. You really need to stop that deal.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Mon May 18, 2020 3:10 pm

Z-Corn wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 2:54 pm $50 million worth of bottle and can deposits waiting to be redeemed.

I started tossing mine in the recycling after the first few weeks. I hope somebody's skimming them out for eventual redemption, because I don't have the space or the patience. We're probably throwing away around $3 per week.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon May 18, 2020 3:43 pm

When I went to school in NY in the mid-90s, my home town in NJ used to not have curbside recycling pick up. I used to save up garbage bags of cans and throw it in the car before heading back upstate during breaks to pay for the gas.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon May 18, 2020 4:38 pm

Unagi wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 1:07 pm Of course when it all began, Trump told America China was doing an amazing job.

Yeah, but that was when Trump was still hoping for a sweet trade deal.

So hard to nail down the truth with this man.

Maybe Trump's new slogan can help?

https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/sta ... 28611?s=20

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon May 18, 2020 4:43 pm

Trump just announced that he's taking hydroxychloroquine every day.

He has had no Corona symptoms and didn't claim to have tested positive. So he's taking it as... a preventative? What?

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Mon May 18, 2020 4:43 pm

There is only one way to respond to that.

EDIT: Amazingly, works for both of your posts.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon May 18, 2020 4:46 pm

Holman wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 4:43 pm Trump just announced that he's taking hydroxychloroquine every day.

He has had no Corona symptoms and didn't claim to have tested positive. So he's taking it as... a preventative? What?

Is that Truth over facts?

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon May 18, 2020 4:48 pm

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/18/trump-s ... ction.html

What the what?

Things is, I wonder if he is or if he's just saying he is. You can't trust him. OtOH, there is no reason for him to tout this and with an aging generation susceptible to the heart problems that the medication is associated with.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon May 18, 2020 4:52 pm

Then perhaps that will Voltron with the KFC diet and solve the problem

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Mon May 18, 2020 4:54 pm

Well that's what they told him the Prozac was.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Mon May 18, 2020 4:54 pm

Yeah, he's either lying or they're telling him it's hydroxychloroquine and it's really just a Flinstones vitamin. Given the potential side effects, I can't imagine they're really dosing him with it.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Mon May 18, 2020 5:07 pm

Holman wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 4:38 pm
Unagi wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 1:07 pm Of course when it all began, Trump told America China was doing an amazing job.
Yeah, but that was when Trump was still hoping for a sweet trade deal.

So hard to nail down the truth with this man.
Maybe Trump's new slogan can help?

https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/sta ... 28611?s=20

So, the guy who says [pulls up literally any transcript of any public statement made by Trump in the past 5 years] is going after Biden for "seemingly incomprehensible statements"?

Good luck with that resonating with anyone outside the most hardcore MAGA's.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon May 18, 2020 5:08 pm

The only thing that comes to mind is he genuinely believes it's the solution and wants to be able to say he was right. He wants to go "in your face. Scientists and their fake science got nuthin' on me. I am the only one who knows."

I totally can't understand taking it as a prophylactic but then I know nothing about pharmacology.

That's a no win situation. You don't want him to be the blind squirrel but you don't want to go "oh yeah, see all those people with heart problems dying." (though I imagine it's the heart problems and the complication caused by COVID19 that is actually doing the killing)

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Mon May 18, 2020 5:14 pm

LordMortis wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 4:48 pm https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/18/trump-s ... ction.html

What the what?

Things is, I wonder if he is or if he's just saying he is. You can't trust him. OtOH, there is no reason for him to tout this and with an aging generation susceptible to the heart problems that the medication is associated with.

“A lot of good things have come out."

So apparently it works as a laxative too.

"You’d be surprised at how many people are taking it, especially the front-line workers.”

I'd be surprised if it were more than 10.

Here's the thing. He makes his own reality and it has served him well so far. There is no reason for him to change, from his standpoint.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Mon May 18, 2020 5:37 pm

https://twitter.com/HoarseWisperer/stat ... 3639623680

This will be the single greatest encapsulation of Fox News I will ever post:

Fox News now warning viewers they could die from taking the thing they said was a cure for the disease they said was a hoax.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon May 18, 2020 5:44 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 5:14 pm I'd be surprised if it were more than 10.

I would not. He's got the Jim Jones thing going for him.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Mon May 18, 2020 5:51 pm

It wouldn’t shock me in the least if the next step here was “I actually tested positive for COVID-19, but it didn’t affect me because I’m the picture of perfect health and I was taking this drug. Therefore, there is no threat and everyone just should get back to work.”

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon May 18, 2020 5:57 pm

Holman wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 4:43 pm Trump just announced that he's taking hydroxychloroquine every day.

He has had no Corona symptoms and didn't claim to have tested positive. So he's taking it as... a preventative? What?

He didn't say what dosage but he doesn't have to worry because he doesn't have a heart to stop anymore. Someone is gonna need to break a phylactery to get rid of this evil sonofabitch.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Mon May 18, 2020 5:57 pm

Will he be moving on to his other proposed treatment?

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon May 18, 2020 6:27 pm

https://twitter.com/studentactivism/sta ... 86306?s=20

(Good thread.)

https://twitter.com/studentactivism/sta ... 92994?s=20

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Mon May 18, 2020 6:29 pm

Every day is more ridiculous than the next. I highly recommend he keeps on taking it though.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon May 18, 2020 6:40 pm

By the By, I looked up Truth Over Facts and it's apparently a reference to a Biden speech from last year, so while it really sounds like a Trump legion thing. It's actually a Biden thing

"Everybody knows who Donald Trump is. Even his supporters know who he is. We got to let him know who we are. We choose unity over division. We choose science over fiction. We choose truth over facts."

-Joe Biden, Iowa rally, August 8 2019.

gameoverman · Post by **gameoverman** » Mon May 18, 2020 8:24 pm

LordMortis wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 5:08 pm The only thing that comes to mind is he genuinely believes it's the solution and wants to be able to say he was right. He wants to go "in your face. Scientists and their fake science got nuthin' on me. I am the only one who knows."

I totally can't understand taking it as a prophylactic but then I know nothing about pharmacology.

That's a no win situation. You don't want him to be the blind squirrel but you don't want to go "oh yeah, see all those people with heart problems dying." (though I imagine it's the heart problems and the complication caused by COVID19 that is actually doing the killing)

I agree he's the kind of guy who is desperate to always be right. I think there's another aspect of his personality that can affect this. He can't admit to making mistakes. If, early on, he got the idea that this chemical might work he might have decided to go with it as the solution. But after a while when it turns out not to be the case, he is stuck. He knows it's not the answer but now his personal pride is caught up in it being the answer. He's in a position where if he admits to the mistake, he knows it means having egg on his face. I think he will do anything to avoid that.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon May 18, 2020 9:09 pm

LordMortis wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 6:40 pm By the By, I looked up Truth Over Facts and it's apparently a reference to a Biden speech from last year, so while it really sounds like a Trump legion thing. It's actually a Biden thing

"Everybody knows who Donald Trump is. Even his supporters know who he is. We got to let him know who we are. We choose unity over division. We choose science over fiction. We choose truth over facts."

-Joe Biden, Iowa rally, August 8 2019.

So it’s a Biden gaffe ?

It sounds like part of a written phrase that he got wrong but I can’t think of what it should have said.

And then I don’t even understand the point of it being co-opted.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Mon May 18, 2020 9:14 pm

Octavious wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 6:29 pm Every day is more ridiculous than the next. I highly recommend he keeps on taking it though.

I don't believe that he's taking it any more than I believe anything else that spews out of his lie hole.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Mon May 18, 2020 9:18 pm

Unagi wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 9:09 pm
LordMortis wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 6:40 pm By the By, I looked up Truth Over Facts and it's apparently a reference to a Biden speech from last year, so while it really sounds like a Trump legion thing. It's actually a Biden thing

"Everybody knows who Donald Trump is. Even his supporters know who he is. We got to let him know who we are. We choose unity over division. We choose science over fiction. We choose truth over facts."

-Joe Biden, Iowa rally, August 8 2019.
So it’s a Biden gaffe ?

It sounds like part of a written phrase that he got wrong but I can’t think of what it should have said.

And then I don’t even understand the point of it being co-opted.

I would guess it’s something along the lines of “We choose truth over ‘alternative facts’”, but Biden flubbed it, as he is wont to do.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Mon May 18, 2020 10:09 pm

https://twitter.com/Yair_Rosenberg/stat ... 1375920130

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Mon May 18, 2020 11:09 pm

I think those are the same side effects Trump gives his followers.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Tue May 19, 2020 10:25 am

Trump: It's up to the states to handle this however they want. I take no responsibility.

Also Trump: We will "step in" if we don't like what the states are doing."

President Trump told governors on a conference call Monday that he "will step in" if the federal government disagrees with state reopening plans, as he largely expressed satisfaction with how the governors are moving to lift coronavirus restrictions in their individual states, according to a report.

...

"The governors are making their decisions, and want to make their decisions, and that's the way I want it to, and we will step in if we see something going wrong, or if we disagree, and some people say that's nice, and some people say I shouldn't be doing that, but we're going to do it if we see something wrong," Trump said to the governors Monday, according to audio of the call obtained by CBS.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Tue May 19, 2020 10:34 am

Next up: invasion of Iran. Coordinated separately by 50 governors and executed separately by 50 National Guard units.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Tue May 19, 2020 11:18 am

Trump/Pence 2020: I take no responsibility.

GOP 2020: States Rights. We only step in at the Federal level if we don't like what you're doing.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Tue May 19, 2020 11:26 am

LawBeefaroni wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 10:34 am Next up: invasion of Iran. Coordinated separately by 50 governors and executed separately by 49 National Guard units and 21 New Jersey County Guard units.

Adjusted for accuracy.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Tue May 19, 2020 11:36 am

Truth.

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Tue May 19, 2020 12:05 pm

Except that he can’t step in if he wants, because he’s not an emperor. The individual Governor’s have the authority to open or close at the State-level. The Feds cannot override that because they don’t like it.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Tue May 19, 2020 12:07 pm

RunningMn9 wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 12:05 pm Except that he can’t step in if he wants, because he’s not an emperor. The individual Governor’s have the authority to open or close at the State-level. The Feds cannot override that because they don’t like it.

But Trump can say it to pump his ego. He can, and does, say whatever he wants and gets away with it.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Tue May 19, 2020 12:12 pm

RunningMn9 wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 12:05 pm Except that he can’t step in if he wants, because he’s not an emperor. The individual Governor’s have the authority to open or close at the State-level. The Feds cannot override that because they don’t like it.

Tell that to DHS and how they've been acting for that last four years and how they've been funded the last four years. And how the Patriot Act has been expanding. If Congress don't stop him and we don't stop Congress, then???

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Tue May 19, 2020 12:33 pm

Can't wait to see what would-be-King Trump has to say about this:

https://twitter.com/TheLancet/status/12 ... 1361254401

Statement from The Lancet in response to President Donald Trump’s May 18 letter to Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, Director-General of the World Health Organization

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue May 19, 2020 12:45 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 12:33 pm Can't wait to see what would-be-King Trump has to say about this:

"Tl;dr"?