Corona Virus: It's a Marathon, Not a Sprint

[Smoove_B]

How's the building HVAC? Also, as you probably know way better than I do, is that a real worry? One of the issues talked about around here is how old the buildings are and outdated the HVAC systems are. Plugging several hundred to a thousand kids into a building recirculating air with little to no filtration seems like a bad idea. What are your thoughts on that part?

Yes, the HVAC is something I've mentioned. At a minimum I'd want to know that the building HVAC staff is following industry guidelines. Where it gets tricky (and what we don't know) is even if we're mixing in higher proportions of fresh / makeup air, any HVAC ductwork that is going to blowing air - will that increase risk of spread? No one knows. Anecdotally, the answer is yes. But maybe mask compliance will lower that risk.

[El Guapo]

I just wonder how far the Trump administration is going to push data manipulation (and, you know, lying). Like, are they going to outright report zero cases? Probably not, because that would be ridiculous on its face, but...

One would hope that reporting at the state level would prevent that. Like, HHS understands that there are still tons and tons of people that have access to the data at lower levels, right?

Yes but CDC was a clearinghouse. Now you have to rely on someone chasing down the data at individual states. Covidtracking already has that infrastructure in place but the Trump administration will probably attack other sources of information or is about to start releasing propaganda. The goal for them is to muddy the waters.

Oh, I hear you. This is definitely terrible. I'm just saying that even with HHS 'taking over,' they can't publish numbers that are just ridiculously low. The states still have the actual data, as do individual hospital networks, etc. You're right, though, that just muddying the waters is probably enough.

Also, we are not the target market for the load of shit they about to try and sell. Undecideds and those who drifted away from tRump due to his mishandling the crisis are.

I don't think that they would get away with it exactly, beyond the hardcore loyalists who are committed to believing everything out of the administration. My question is whether the administration will care about how plausible the lies on this are.

[Remus West]

His was the biggest inaugural crowd in history.

[LawBeefaroni]

Chicago Public Schools released their preliminary return to school plan.

Our preliminary framework is rooted in science and was developed in accordance with guidance released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, CDPH, and the Illinois State Board of Education. We’ve heard from families that they are eager to resume their child’s education but in a manner that minimizes the health risks posed by COVID-19. To strike this fine balance, we are preparing for a scenario in which it is safe to begin the 2020–21 school year with a hybrid learning model where students will learn at school and at home. This hybrid model would allow students to follow proper social distancing guidelines by effectively cutting the number of students in a classroom and ensuring students can access high-quality in-person instruction from caring teachers. And because our public health situation continues to evolve, our framework is designed to adapt to changing public health conditions and easily transition to full at-home learning should COVID-19 cases begin to rise.

This is for ~400K kids, give or take a few dozen grand depending on flight from the city.

[Isgrimnur]

Dallas

Dallas County Health and Human Services issued an order Thursday requiring all Dallas County schools to delay in-person education and extracurricular activities until after Sept. 7, due to the surge in COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations.

The order said no schools can re-open for on-campus, face-to-face instruction until after Labor Day weekend, and that all school-sponsored events and activities, most notably clubs and sports, will not take place until on-campus instruction resumes.

Remote or distance learning can take place prior to Sept. 7.

[$iljanus]

Also, this is where some people on the right (someone I follow on Twitter retweeted this) are going in terms of how "red" states are faring better with the Covid fight than "blue" states.

https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/ ... 2426212352

Heh, I’ll just post this response from those wise lyricists, Led Zeppelin:

[Alefroth]

I hope when the crisis is over, the GOP are continually reminded how essential they consider schools and kids' well-being.

[Smoove_B]

Wearing ineffective masks to own the libs:

And masks made of mesh, crochet (yarn) or lace are now popular items being offered by internet retailers. Most include warnings stating the items “are NOT intended for protection or COVID use.” But protection is not what anti-mask protesters are looking for.

“Make your own Anti Mask!” said the seller of a pattern to create your own anti-mask. The description of the product states: “Stylish, breathable and don't protect you from a darn thing! Masks required? No problem! Breath free while making a statement.”

The amount of effort going into not wearing a mask still amazes me. I know it shouldn't but it does.

[Remus West]

Wearing ineffective masks to own the libs:

And masks made of mesh, crochet (yarn) or lace are now popular items being offered by internet retailers. Most include warnings stating the items “are NOT intended for protection or COVID use.” But protection is not what anti-mask protesters are looking for.

“Make your own Anti Mask!” said the seller of a pattern to create your own anti-mask. The description of the product states: “Stylish, breathable and don't protect you from a darn thing! Masks required? No problem! Breath free while making a statement.”

The amount of effort going into not wearing a mask still amazes me. I know it shouldn't but it does.

Jesus. That is simply boggling.

[Holman]

https://twitter.com/AnaCabrera/status/1 ... 19968?s=20

Yup. Everyone who enters a gym transforms into good shape. Good enough to beat up any tiny virus.

[Smoove_B]

Socialist releases plan for schools:

Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden on Friday released his plan for how schools should safely reopen amid the ongoing coronavirus crisis, calling on Congress to pass a $30 billion emergency education package to support building upgrades and sanitation protocols ahead of students' return to onsite learning.

"The challenge facing our schools is unprecedented. President Trump has made it much worse. We had a window to get this right. And, Trump blew it," the Biden campaign said in a statement.

[Zaxxon]

https://twitter.com/AnaCabrera/status/1 ... 19968?s=20

Yup. Everyone who enters a gym transforms into good shape. Good enough to beat up any tiny virus.

Also entirely misses the point of closing gyms. Spoiler: it has very little to do with whether the folks in the gym are at high risk of 'significant condition'.

[LawBeefaroni]

https://twitter.com/AnaCabrera/status/1 ... 19968?s=20

Yup. Everyone who enters a gym transforms into good shape. Good enough to beat up any tiny virus.

Not sure which is worse, being stupid enough to believe that line of thinking or evil enough to know it's not true but promote it. He is one of those two.

[Holman]

The only upside of the pandemic is that it might very well destroy the political careers of stooges like DeSantis and Kemp.

DeSantis was being seriously floated as a 2024 presidential possibility even as the virus was first rising.

[Octavious]

Socialist releases plan for schools:

Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden on Friday released his plan for how schools should safely reopen amid the ongoing coronavirus crisis, calling on Congress to pass a $30 billion emergency education package to support building upgrades and sanitation protocols ahead of students' return to onsite learning.

"The challenge facing our schools is unprecedented. President Trump has made it much worse. We had a window to get this right. And, Trump blew it," the Biden campaign said in a statement.

Whoa whoa whoa. You mean just telling schools they must open without giving any hint of a plan around it isn't good enough for you? Damn hippies..

[raydude]

White House blocks CDC testimony.

I don't get how is this even allowed? Are all government agencies under the purview of the Executive Branch? I'm not just talking about Trump now, but what's to stop a future President-wanna-be-Dictator from blocking any and all agencies from testifying to Congress? How does this make for separate but equal branches of government?

[$iljanus]

Socialist releases plan for schools:

Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden on Friday released his plan for how schools should safely reopen amid the ongoing coronavirus crisis, calling on Congress to pass a $30 billion emergency education package to support building upgrades and sanitation protocols ahead of students' return to onsite learning.

"The challenge facing our schools is unprecedented. President Trump has made it much worse. We had a window to get this right. And, Trump blew it," the Biden campaign said in a statement.

Whoa whoa whoa. You mean just telling schools they must open without giving any hint of a plan around it isn't good enough for you? Damn hippies..

You know who also had plans? Communists did with their "5 Year Plans". America...we don't need no stinking plans.

[malchior]

White House blocks CDC testimony.

I don't get how is this even allowed? Are all government agencies under the purview of the Executive Branch? I'm not just talking about Trump now, but what's to stop a future President-wanna-be-Dictator from blocking any and all agencies from testifying to Congress? How does this make for separate but equal branches of government?

This is why we had people pondering about ways to punish people for not appearing or prod them to appear like using inherent contempt. The system is built on norms and Trump has done more to smash them than anyone in modern history.

[Smoove_B]

Makes total sense at this point. And in case anyone would like a Friday night reality check:

https://twitter.com/JeremyKonyndyk/stat ... 0149812227

I'm more worried about the US outbreak than at any point since early March.

We're on a similarly devastating trajectory, minus the political will to do something about it. That's a catastrophic situation.

According to a document compiled for the White House Coronavirus Task Force, but withheld from the public, Georgia is one of 18 states in the "red zone" for high caseload growth, and one of 12 in the "red zone" for high positive test results. 1/8

Buried in his thread, a good reminder:

And bear in mind that deaths lag hospitalizations lag test-confirmed cases.

So when you see an uptick in case counts, you'll see a corresponding uptick in hospitalizations 2ish weeks later, and a corresponding uptick in deaths after another 1-2 weeks.

Read more in Vanity Fair.

[raydude]

White House blocks CDC testimony.

I don't get how is this even allowed? Are all government agencies under the purview of the Executive Branch? I'm not just talking about Trump now, but what's to stop a future President-wanna-be-Dictator from blocking any and all agencies from testifying to Congress? How does this make for separate but equal branches of government?

This is why we had people pondering about ways to punish people for not appearing or prod them to appear like using inherent contempt. The system is built on norms and Trump has done more to smash them than anyone in modern history.

But it cuts both ways, right? If the CDC decided it wanted to send someone to testify then Trump can't fire them. Especially not if it's a career staffer. And I don't see how it's breaking the law so the staffer can't get arrested.

[malchior]

It's probably too early but if the death rate at world wide rate of 4-5% confirmed infected go on to die holds up then we are looking at 3000 dead per day in 3-4 weeks @ 75K infected per day. Late summer might be bonkers.

[Smoove_B]

It's probably too early but if the death rate at 4-5% holds up then we are looking at 3000 dead per day in 3-4 weeks @ 75K infected per day. Late summer might be bonkers.

We saw what it did in NYC and to the same size population, but more spread out in NJ. I really don't think anyone knows exactly what will happen, to be honest. The number of variables - including access to and level of hospital care is all part of it. It's a national problem that American citizens aren't experiencing equally. Simply depending on your region, state, county and street address your overall trajectory here might be completely different than someone in a neighboring community or state. While the virus might target all humans, it's not a level playing field. It truly gets more depressing by the day for me.

[Blackhawk]

It's probably too early but if the death rate at world wide rate of 4-5% confirmed infected go on to die holds up then we are looking at 3000 dead per day in 3-4 weeks @ 75K infected per day. Late summer might be bonkers.

And by pure coincidence, the people being briefed on this fact every day just took steps to make sure that we only see the numbers they want us to see.

[raydude]

It's probably too early but if the death rate at world wide rate of 4-5% confirmed infected go on to die holds up then we are looking at 3000 dead per day in 3-4 weeks @ 75K infected per day. Late summer might be bonkers.

And by pure coincidence, the people being briefed on this fact every day just took steps to make sure that we only see the numbers they want us to see.

Maybe 10 years ago it would have been a challenge to compile death tolls and such from the internet but I'm betting it's a lot harder to hide the numbers now. Even if the official numbers are hidden there's nothing stopping the news from getting at freely available information and adding up the tally.

[Victoria Raverna]

To add more context, she also said that the science is very clear and it's on their side in terms of opening the schools. It's still a wild argument, but The Hill's tweet doesn't provide the full context of what she was saying.

Here's the full quote:

"The president has said unmistakably that he wants schools to open. I was just in the Oval talking to him about that, and when he says open, he means open and full, kids being able to attend each and every day at their school," she said, before referencing former Stanford Neuroradiology Chief Dr. Scott Atlas. "The science should not stand in the way of this, and as Dr. Scott Atlas said — I thought this was a good quote — 'Of course we can do this. Everyone in the Western world; our peer nations are doing this. We are the outlier here.'"

...

"... Look at the JAMA Pediatrics study of 46 pediatric hospitals in North America that said the risk of critical illness from COVID is far less for children than that of seasonal flu," she said. "The science is on our side here, and we encourage for localities and states to just simply follow the science, open our schools. It’s very damaging to our children: There is a lack of reporting of abuse; there’s mental depressions that are not addressed; suicidal ideations that are not addressed when students are not in school. Our schools are extremely important, they’re essential, and they must reopen."

Here, when she says "this", she is referring back to "he means open and full, kids being able to attend each and every day at their school"

There is no science that says schools should be "open and full". The second half of her statement focuses on the health of the children, not the potential role they play in spreading it. They're cherry picking information to justify demanding schools fully open. I'm not aware of a single public health practitioner, epidemiologist or infectious disease expert that's saying schools should be "open and full" while communities are experiencing increasing cases - it's actually the opposite.

And to be clear, I don't think she's dumb. I think she's evil.

So Trump is now against homeschooling?

[Remus West]

To add more context, she also said that the science is very clear and it's on their side in terms of opening the schools. It's still a wild argument, but The Hill's tweet doesn't provide the full context of what she was saying.

Here's the full quote:

"The president has said unmistakably that he wants schools to open. I was just in the Oval talking to him about that, and when he says open, he means open and full, kids being able to attend each and every day at their school," she said, before referencing former Stanford Neuroradiology Chief Dr. Scott Atlas. "The science should not stand in the way of this, and as Dr. Scott Atlas said — I thought this was a good quote — 'Of course we can do this. Everyone in the Western world; our peer nations are doing this. We are the outlier here.'"

...

"... Look at the JAMA Pediatrics study of 46 pediatric hospitals in North America that said the risk of critical illness from COVID is far less for children than that of seasonal flu," she said. "The science is on our side here, and we encourage for localities and states to just simply follow the science, open our schools. It’s very damaging to our children: There is a lack of reporting of abuse; there’s mental depressions that are not addressed; suicidal ideations that are not addressed when students are not in school. Our schools are extremely important, they’re essential, and they must reopen."

Here, when she says "this", she is referring back to "he means open and full, kids being able to attend each and every day at their school"

There is no science that says schools should be "open and full". The second half of her statement focuses on the health of the children, not the potential role they play in spreading it. They're cherry picking information to justify demanding schools fully open. I'm not aware of a single public health practitioner, epidemiologist or infectious disease expert that's saying schools should be "open and full" while communities are experiencing increasing cases - it's actually the opposite.

And to be clear, I don't think she's dumb. I think she's evil.

So Trump is now against homeschooling?

He has never been for homeschooling. Just destroying public education. Channeling public money that is badly needed by public schools to private schools that do not have nearly the need if any.

[Enough]

Ugh, I was just on @Cleavon_MD twitter and Cleavon Gilman is an Iraq vet that was emergency MD in NY and now in AZ and he is documenting the younger people under 45 who have died and it really hit me hard. He also has a thread dedicated to children that was beyond a sucker punch and is making me question opening and what all this is going to look like a couple of months after reopening schools. I fear we are on a dark timeline that is about to get a lot worse.

[Smoove_B]

COVID testing delays worsen:

But here's the rub: Labs are performing more COVID-19 tests than ever, lab workers are strained and states are biddingagainst one another for the same, limited supplies.

...

"We’ve gone way backwards" in testing, said former New York health commissioner Dr. Nirav Shah.

Shah, now a senior scholar at Stanford University's Center for Clinical Excellence, and other public health experts say the delay in results renders many of the tests irrelevant and increases the virus's spread.

...

Whatever the solution, epidemiologist and former state and city health department official Brian Castrucci calls shifting testing responsibility to states the "worst misuse of federalism ever" and "a national leadership disaster."

"When you look at that (in some places), everyone who wants a test can get a test, was that the right thing to do?" said Castrucci, CEO of the de Beaumont Foundation.

"Did we take any steps to prepare to do that? This could have been forecasted. This was never an 'if' but a when."

[malchior]

The difference between any sort of a unified response and what is happening is one man. One man. We can't ever, ever let this happen again.

[Blackhawk]

Ours never asked our position.

Oh, and next Saturday is Ian's graduation. It's inside the gym, and while the graduating class is only about 80 students, which is small, they're allowed six guests each. With staff, that's ~600 people in the gym.

I'm so tired of stupid.

Well, the Governor just delayed the final phase of reopening for a couple more weeks. They scheduled this for the first day of the final phase, so this seriously screws up my son's graduation.

Thank god.

It takes us from 6 guests per student to 2, so we'll only have 250 unmasked rednecks crowded into a school gym, cheering, for two hours.

Final update: per the Governor's order, gatherings over 250 are prohibited. Starting on the 23rd, special exceptions can be granted. Nonetheless, the local health department somehow gave the school permission to have the full 600-person gathering despite the Governor's order not allowing for it. The rules were still the same: All names were written down upon entry, and everyone had to have a mask when they arrived (so everyone had a mask on hand.) The bleachers (inside, remember) were 'socially distanced', which meant that there were 6' horizontally between groups, but rows were within two feet of each other, like so:

XXXXXX_______XXXXXX_______XXXXXX

XXXXXX_______XXXXXX_______XXXXXX

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XXXXXX_______XXXXXX_______XXXXXX

Once you got inside, masks were just 'recommended.' How many people took the recommendation to heart? Well, I had an hour sitting there before the ceremony, so I counted the opposite side. 8% had masks. Of the students graduating, 2.4% had masks (exactly two students.) At one point, there was special recognition for a student who was supposed to graduate today, but died a year ago from cancer. They even had her mother show up on stage carrying her picture to receive the girl's diploma. It was genuinely sad, and there wasn't a dry eye in the place. More on that in a second.

So, roughly 600 people, 92% unmasked, in a closed building for 2 1/2 hours, and halfway through that audience, about a third of which is elderly, were all wiping their eyes with their fingers.

We stayed masked and sat in the corner on top next to the camera booth That means that we had nobody behind us/above us, and nobody to either side. We also didn't tell his elderly grandmother that they'd changed to rules and that she could have gone after all.

We'll know in a couple of weeks what the fallout from this is.

[Enough]

Anyone doing Sturgis this year? 80th anniversary with 500k visitors, wonder if we should postpone?

The people of Sturgis had weighed in on whether to hold its iconic motorcycle rally this year, and their answer was an overwhelming “no.”

More than half of the community of nearly 7,000 people expressed their feelings in a survey, sent to them by city hall in self-addressed envelopes, about the idea of hosting thousands of bikers during the coronavirus pandemic.

A sizable majority, 62%, asked city officials to postpone the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally, the single biggest driver of tourism in South Dakota.

Reacting to the survey, city leaders discussed the possibility of postponing or canceling this year’s event, which marks the 80th anniversary of the rally.

And then they got a letter.

Sent by attorneys for an outside business, a Rapid City-based gifts wholesaler, the letter contained threats of litigation unless the rally moved forward, said Daniel Ainslie, Sturgis’ city manager.

“I would just say that along with many other items that were brought into consideration when the council made their decision, there were a lot of very concerning items that were brought forward and then ultimately led the council to make the best choice they felt they had available to them,” Ainslie said.

Little more than a week after discussing the possibility of putting off the event until 2021, the Sturgis City Council instead approved it and city resources to assist in hosting this year’s rally, though with changes intended to prevent the spread of COVID-19.

[malchior]

Democracy in action! As one of my Australian customers said, "You guys really have a radical form of democracy there." Yup.

[Holman]

Democracy in action! As one of my Australian customers said, "You guys really have a radical form of democracy there." Yup.

Also the opposite!

[Kasey Chang]

It's probably too early but if the death rate at world wide rate of 4-5% confirmed infected go on to die holds up then we are looking at 3000 dead per day in 3-4 weeks @ 75K infected per day. Late summer might be bonkers.

If the hospitals are overwhelmed we'll see the 4-5% death rate. If hospitals can cope then we see about 1% death rate.

[malchior]

It's probably too early but if the death rate at world wide rate of 4-5% confirmed infected go on to die holds up then we are looking at 3000 dead per day in 3-4 weeks @ 75K infected per day. Late summer might be bonkers.

If the hospitals are overwhelmed we'll see the 4-5% death rate. If hospitals can cope then we see about 1% death rate.

No country on earth has reported a 1% rate absent very small populations of patients. Even the countries that did well. Some counties in the US show 1-2%. And the places we see the lower "reported" level are almost all counties in Red States. In any case, with the data being as crappy as it is and manipulated it is only a finger in the air guess and the lower bound might be at 2% but it probably is higher.

[malchior]

and some people are saying we'll get hit with a 15-20% increase. In the midst of all this shit...it is going to be ugly.

If you want to see a civil war start, go ahead and try to raise my property taxes by 20%. I will burn this motherfucker to the ground.

If NJ tries to raise property taxes by 20%+ to cover coronavirus related expenses, I would legitimately consider fleeing the state out of fear of it turning into something resembling something akin to The Road Warrior.

They are legitimately talking about it in Asbury Park. I'm hearing rumbles too in my neck of the woods. And yes I'm prepared to be mad. I've paid more in school taxes than I would have for a second and third master's degree in the last 8 years.

Edit: Also keep in mind they are talking about borrowing up to $10B for a one-time budget fix for the coming fiscal year.

Just got the tax 'estimate' since the county hasn't finalized their rates yet. Mine went up just shy of 8%. It's ugly. People are blowing up on the town feed. You get this sense that everyone is very, very fed up with the cost of living situation in NJ.

[Kraken]

and some people are saying we'll get hit with a 15-20% increase. In the midst of all this shit...it is going to be ugly.

If you want to see a civil war start, go ahead and try to raise my property taxes by 20%. I will burn this motherfucker to the ground.

If NJ tries to raise property taxes by 20%+ to cover coronavirus related expenses, I would legitimately consider fleeing the state out of fear of it turning into something resembling something akin to The Road Warrior.

They are legitimately talking about it in Asbury Park. I'm hearing rumbles too in my neck of the woods. And yes I'm prepared to be mad. I've paid more in school taxes than I would have for a second and third master's degree in the last 8 years.

Edit: Also keep in mind they are talking about borrowing up to $10B for a one-time budget fix for the coming fiscal year.

Just got the tax 'estimate' since the county hasn't finalized their rates yet. Mine went up just shy of 8%. It's ugly. People are blowing up on the town feed. You get this sense that everyone is very, very fed up with the cost of living situation in NJ.

Wait. Aren't you a Democrat? You people love paying taxes.

[Isgrimnur]

CNBC

The White House is trying to block billions of dollars for coronavirus testing and contact tracing in the upcoming stimulus relief bill, according to a new report in The Washington Post, even as infections surge across the country and Americans face long wait times to receive test results amid high demand.

The Trump administration also wants to block billions of dollars that would go toward bolstering the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Pentagon and the State Department to combat the pandemic, the Post reported Saturday, citing people familiar with the deliberations.

The White House declined CNBC’s request for comment.
...
While moving to block testing assistance, the Trump administration is trying to use the legislation to fund priorities unrelated to the pandemic such as a new FBI building, according to the Post.

[malchior]

and some people are saying we'll get hit with a 15-20% increase. In the midst of all this shit...it is going to be ugly.

If you want to see a civil war start, go ahead and try to raise my property taxes by 20%. I will burn this motherfucker to the ground.

If NJ tries to raise property taxes by 20%+ to cover coronavirus related expenses, I would legitimately consider fleeing the state out of fear of it turning into something resembling something akin to The Road Warrior.

They are legitimately talking about it in Asbury Park. I'm hearing rumbles too in my neck of the woods. And yes I'm prepared to be mad. I've paid more in school taxes than I would have for a second and third master's degree in the last 8 years.

Edit: Also keep in mind they are talking about borrowing up to $10B for a one-time budget fix for the coming fiscal year.

Just got the tax 'estimate' since the county hasn't finalized their rates yet. Mine went up just shy of 8%. It's ugly. People are blowing up on the town feed. You get this sense that everyone is very, very fed up with the cost of living situation in NJ.

Wait. Aren't you a Democrat? You people love paying taxes.

A Democrat!?! Please. I just stopped voting for Republicans when they got on the crazy train in the Bush administration. I've always been ok with paying for "society" but the level has gone beyond "European levels" without any of upside.

[Smoove_B]

An excellent (but long) Twitter thread:

https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1284635890422292483

COVID update: I know everyone feels like we’re in neutral, or worse, reverse.

I’ve been in conversations w cities & states & schools. It’s clear we need to adopt a new mentality & change some assumptions to unstick. 1/

If you read nothing else, it's the ending:

If Coronavirus doesn’t tell us it’s time to change some things, to question some things, to make things better, to do things better, to rewrite the rules, than our time as an Empire is drawing to a close. Sometimes I want to blame it all on a bad president. But other times I remember all the things we did before then. All the things we did to elect him. All the ways of cooking voting rights. And some of the spirit of the country we lost

NOTE: This is exactly the opposite of the news posted by Isg regarding the next aid package and what the Trump Administration is blocking/proposing.