Trump vs. Biden - the Final Showdown

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:25 pm

Ok, I'll take the controversial position that the GOP is hot garbage.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:43 pm

RESOVLVED THAT COVFEFE!

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:26 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:41 pm He doesn't have the stamina to speak every night. I'd imagine by night 3 (definitely night #4) he's going to be so hepped up on goofballs it'll be amazing. Pupils the size of pie-plates, I'm confident he's going to let a racial epithet slip.

When the ratings crush those of the DNC, he'll declare victory. Doesn't matter what he says or does.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:45 pm

Night 1 through 3 will be about how great he is and how Dems need to die. Night 4 will just be him masturbating to a photo of himself that Barr has to hold up.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:58 pm

I'd give anything for this to be a ruse by Tiffany to come out against him and the whole family wherein she drops a bunch of bombshells right before security tackles her and hauls her off stage while the live feed cuts for "technical difficulties."

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:38 pm

The more Trump the better, given how people tend to react to him. I strongly suspect that most nights will be brief prerecorded remarks, but if he wants to actually give a speech each night, I would more than welcome that.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:41 pm

Looking forward to seeing numerous Zoom squares with people shooting their God given guns into the air in celebration while they burn masks.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:45 am

Looking forward to more materiel for Sarah Cooper.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:05 am

Jaymann wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:45 am Looking forward to more materiel for Sarah Cooper.

If he speaks each night, she'll be set through retirement.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:10 am

I have to be honest, after the first couple videos, the Sarah Cooper stuff grew old for me. Randy Rainbow is far more talented. He should be the one getting tv shows out of their satire.

Scraper · Post by **Scraper** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:39 am

I have a feeling the "convention" will really just be an hour of Trump giving one of his batshit insane rally speeches that he hasn't been able to do due to Covid. He won't be able to follow a teleprompter for that long so he'll start to wing it. Which will be seen as a home run to his base, but just add more fuel to the fire for everyone else who has critical thinking skills. We should get several good sound bites each night.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:22 am

hepcat wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:10 am I have to be honest, after the first couple videos, the Sarah Cooper stuff grew old for me. Randy Rainbow is far more talented. He should be the one getting tv shows out of their satire.

She'd had a couple that weren't great - but then bounced back. (IMO)

RR's talent (and he certainly has it) is more-or-less like Weird Al, which doesn't make for a good show.
SC's talent is being able to mimic and mock with perfection, and I could see that being leveraged.

BTW, I need to look at what you are talking about, I wasn't aware she got a deal - but I did see her most recent one regarding Mail In Voting where she breaks character and talks to everyone about the seriousness of it all. I thought that was effective, and I think the link I saw was from NBC or something (not her tic tok).

edit: the show deal: https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/20/2137 ... bs-tv-show

They like her sense of comedy and she wrote a book that Netflix want's to turn into a show.

/shrug... Why would Randy Rainbow deserve a show over her?

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:25 am

Unagi wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:22 am
BTW, I need to look at what you are talking about, I wasn't aware she got a deal

Here ya go.

From what I saw, Cooper's kind of a one trick pony. Some people may find that trick funny after seeing it over and over again though, I guess. Myself? Not so much.

Now Randy? He's a goddamn national treasure.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:25 am

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:31 am

No BAM for you. You edited yours to include the link WHILE i was responding.

Listen, I worry the BAM isn't being taken seriously enough these days. We need to hold the BAM up to higher standards than we have been. When Issie began BAM'ing years ago, I don't think he foresaw that it would become a national craze. But unfortunately, that means some folks have started to take shortcuts with the BAM.

As Voltaire once wrote: "With great BAM comes even greater responsibility!"

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:40 am

hepcat wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:25 am From what I saw, Cooper's kind of a one trick pony. Some people may find that trick funny after seeing it over and over again though, I guess. Myself? Not so much.

First - to be clear, I want them both to continue being great.

Cooper has totally won my heart. Occasionally, (they aren't all winners) her mockery is just exactly what the doctor ordered.

My understanding is that she's a stand-up comedian and has written a few books - and then caught 'our eye' with her Trump impersonations. I don't think the show is going to be watching her lip sync Trump's ramblings. I think Netflix saw talent and wanted to tap it.

Myself? I am starting to find Randy pretty formulaic and a little 'one tricky'.

But, I honestly enjoy just about anything that mocks Trump and might get under his skin... And Cooper's work is much more likely to do that than Randy's - so I find Randy less effective and more just navel gazing.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:42 am

hepcat wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:31 am No BAM for you. You edited yours to include the link WHILE i was responding.

Issy !? we need a call on this!

I got my edit in, well before your post - so techincally I think I should be awarded a bam.

I'll leave it to the judge.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:48 am

2 and a half minutes is "well before" now?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:56 am

an eternity.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:08 am

Personally my favorite is JL Cauvin's stuff. His Trump impersonation is the best I've ever seen, both in terms of his intonations and just his ability to channel Trump's shtick:

https://twitter.com/JLCauvin/status/1297344829656117249

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:27 am

El Guapo wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:08 am Personally my favorite is JL Cauvin's stuff. His Trump impersonation is the best I've ever seen, both in terms of his intonations and just his ability to channel Trump's shtick:

He totally has it nailed, I completely agree on that. I mean - it's perfect.

The only problem with it (and this isn't his fault), is that the comedian is trying to be satirical while Trump is a joke of his own making... So, sometimes when I hear people 'pretending to be Trump and saying fake Trump things'.... I feel like saying - 'you aren't even half as ridiculous as the real thing...' It's the problem The Onion and other comedians have explain they are having in these unbelievable times we are living in.

That's what is so fun about Sarah Cooper's 'found gem'; in showing off the fool's own words for what they are.

Where, it's easy to dismiss JL Cauvin's mocking/Trump-talk as just a comedian exaggerating 'the problem'...

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:31 am

Unagi wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:27 am
El Guapo wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:08 am Personally my favorite is JL Cauvin's stuff. His Trump impersonation is the best I've ever seen, both in terms of his intonations and just his ability to channel Trump's shtick:

He totally has it nailed, I completely agree on that. I mean - it's perfect.

The only problem with it (and this isn't his fault), is that the comedian is trying to be satirical while Trump is a joke of his own making... So, sometimes when I hear people 'pretending to be Trump and saying fake Trump things'.... I feel like saying - 'you aren't even have as ridiculous as the real thing...' It's the problem The Onion and other comedians have explain they are having in these unbelievable times we are living in.

That's what is so fun about Sarah Cooper's 'found gem'; in showing off the fool's own words for what they are.

Where, it's easy to dismiss JL Cauvin's mocking/Trump-talk as just a comedian exaggerating 'the problem'...

I'm speaking in terms of personal amusement rather than social impact, FWIW.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:40 am

El Guapo wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:31 am
Unagi wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:27 am
El Guapo wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:08 am Personally my favorite is JL Cauvin's stuff. His Trump impersonation is the best I've ever seen, both in terms of his intonations and just his ability to channel Trump's shtick:

He totally has it nailed, I completely agree on that. I mean - it's perfect.

The only problem with it (and this isn't his fault), is that the comedian is trying to be satirical while Trump is a joke of his own making... So, sometimes when I hear people 'pretending to be Trump and saying fake Trump things'.... I feel like saying - 'you aren't even half as ridiculous as the real thing...' It's the problem The Onion and other comedians have explain they are having in these unbelievable times we are living in.

That's what is so fun about Sarah Cooper's 'found gem'; in showing off the fool's own words for what they are.

Where, it's easy to dismiss JL Cauvin's mocking/Trump-talk as just a comedian exaggerating 'the problem'...
I'm speaking in terms of personal amusement rather than social impact, FWIW.

For me, in this subject, they are totally linked.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:41 am

Cooper's comedy may not survive post-Trump, the corporate mocking is only mildly amusing. But in the moment it is comedy gold.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:11 am

Unagi wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:42 am
hepcat wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:31 am No BAM for you. You edited yours to include the link WHILE i was responding.

Issy !? we need a call on this!

I got my edit in, well before your post - so techincally I think I should be awarded a bam.

I'll leave it to the judge.

I'm going to establish a 5-minute window in which an edit does not constitute a BAM, as this leaves respondents in a handicapped position. Better to post a second time with the link for best results. And this window closes early if your resulting edit is flagged by the system, as then a response has been posted before the edit completed.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:12 am

The BAM is all in good fun, when all is said and done.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:16 am

Sounds fair, going forward.

I'll take my bam, since you only just now established the 5 minute window thing...

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:16 am

Good luck clawing your way up the tables.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:46 am

Isgrimnur wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:16 am Good luck clawing your way up the tables.

The whole essence of Bam, at it's core, is purely chronological.
You arbitrarily putting a window of 300 seconds is an affront to the whole thing. I'm sorry, sir.

There is no distinction between me making a reply and me making the edit, as there is no edit stamp, as you yourself said. Yet you pretend that would have made all the difference.

Spoiler:

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:50 am

From the bits and pieces I've seen of tonight, I almost get the feeling that Trump isn't trying to win.

He's trying to set the stage to refuse to accept a loss.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:29 am

Blackhawk wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:50 am From the bits and pieces I've seen of tonight, I almost get the feeling that Trump isn't trying to win.

He's trying to set the stage to refuse to accept a loss.

That was a fear in 2016 and now it really appears to be the case. Trump is not someone who loses. It isn't possible in his broken mind.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:48 am

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1 ... 8150781952

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:42 am

I got my TRUMP 2020 survey/donation form in the mail yesterday, full of fear-mongering loaded questions. I filled it out for my own amusement, with a generous contribution of "Fuck Off."

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:22 am

YellowKing wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:42 am I got my TRUMP 2020 survey/donation form in the mail yesterday, full of fear-mongering loaded questions. I filled it out for my own amusement, with a generous contribution of "Fuck Off."

"If Biden were to he elected do you think he would continue running an international pedophile ring or would he be too old and tired to continue?"

raydude · Post by **raydude** » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:37 am

YellowKing wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:42 am I got my TRUMP 2020 survey/donation form in the mail yesterday, full of fear-mongering loaded questions. I filled it out for my own amusement, with a generous contribution of "Fuck Off."

I received a survey/request for donation from the RNC a year ago. I decided to fill it out and selected the reasonable choice out of all the insane ones. Ever since then they've been mailing me surveys and I've been filling them out and mailing them back. I just got one that said I'm a member of the elite Republican circle.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:39 am

raydude wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:37 am
YellowKing wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:42 am I got my TRUMP 2020 survey/donation form in the mail yesterday, full of fear-mongering loaded questions. I filled it out for my own amusement, with a generous contribution of "Fuck Off."
I received a survey/request for donation from the RNC a year ago. I decided to fill it out and selected the reasonable choice out of all the insane ones. Ever since then they've been mailing me surveys and I've been filling them out and mailing them back. I just got one that said I'm a member of the elite Republican circle.

Just three more surveys and you qualify for a pool boy.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:37 am

https://twitter.com/MotherJones/status/ ... 7533066245

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:37 am

https://twitter.com/Voodoo_Pork/status/ ... 2103581697

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:53 am

Defiant wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:37 am https://twitter.com/Voodoo_Pork/status/ ... 2103581697

Ain't that the truth.

Asking MAGA's to actually define "socialism" is a fun exercise.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:59 am

raydude wrote:I received a survey/request for donation from the RNC a year ago. I decided to fill it out and selected the reasonable choice out of all the insane ones.

Yeah I wound up just tossing it in the garbage because I was afraid responding (even negatively) would put me on some kind of mass mailing list.