Election integrity and the transfer of power

[mori]

How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.

[Jaymann]

How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.

She was my first choice. I am more concerned how she will fare if she runs for the top spot against enraged Repugnicans in 2024.

[mori]

How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.

She was my first choice. I am more concerned how she will fare if she runs for the top spot against enraged Repugnicans in 2024.

As a sturn economic conservative, I think she would do alright. Just don't fuck with science and the way we do business, you will do well. Don't get us involved in any conflicts and she will be in power till 2028. But we have to intervine with China and/or North Korea in the near future and that will destroy any Presidential bid.

[Kraken]

How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.

She's a fighter, and a rising star. Biden's a conciliator and a setting star. Harris is the party's future. Biden's the last gasp of its past.

I hope Biden lasts through the midterms, because if Harris inherits the office before then the Dems will get shellacked. I'm fairly confident that she could handle the role, but hope that she gets a couple of years of on-the-job training first, and that Americans will grow comfortable with her.

[mori]

How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.

She's a fighter, and a rising star. Biden's a conciliator and a setting star. Harris is the party's future. Biden's the last gasp of its past.

I hope Biden lasts through the midterms, because if Harris inherits the office before then the Dems will get shellacked.

Not sure what you are implying there. What if Republicans win? Is that the end of the world?

[Daehawk]

and that Americans will grow comfortable with her.

HA! We already know what 50% think.

[Little Raven]

How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.

She's ready if comes to it.

[mori]

and that Americans will grow comfortable with her.

HA! We already know what 50% think.

what are you implying?
(I am setting you up just in case).

[mori]

and that Americans will grow comfortable with her.

HA! We already know what 50% think.

what are you implying?
(I am setting you up just in case).

[Smoove_B]

How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.

I would have 100% supported her if she was the nominee for President. I'm quite excited to see what she's going to do - I strongly suspect she's going to re-define what it means to be a VP.

It saddens me to say that I still don't think America would vote to elect a woman as President though. However, I am hopeful this is an important first step in that direction.

I've said it before, as someone in public service, there's just something about the way she speaks that I find inspiring. To me she presents herself very much like a public servant - I can just sense it in her demeanor and she reminds me of people I've worked with that have a similar ability to inspire through "referent power". To me, she seems genuine and sincere. She's also smart as a whip and she has a sense of humor. I really am looking forward to seeing what she can do.

[gbasden]

How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.

She's a fighter, and a rising star. Biden's a conciliator and a setting star. Harris is the party's future. Biden's the last gasp of its past.

I hope Biden lasts through the midterms, because if Harris inherits the office before then the Dems will get shellacked.

Not sure what you are implying there. What if Republicans win? Is that the end of the world?

Given the pace of climate change, possibly.

[Kraken]

How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.

She's a fighter, and a rising star. Biden's a conciliator and a setting star. Harris is the party's future. Biden's the last gasp of its past.

I hope Biden lasts through the midterms, because if Harris inherits the office before then the Dems will get shellacked.

Not sure what you are implying there. What if Republicans win? Is that the end of the world?

Americans don't like powerful women, much less powerful nonwhite women. If Harris assumes the presidency before the midterms, Dems will lose the House. A hostile Congress would be the end of the world for President Harris. She (and the party) will fare better if Americans have a few years to see that she's not the devil incarnate.

As far as the consequences of Reps winning, that depends on which ones.

[Zaxxon]

How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.

She's a fighter, and a rising star. Biden's a conciliator and a setting star. Harris is the party's future. Biden's the last gasp of its past.

I hope Biden lasts through the midterms, because if Harris inherits the office before then the Dems will get shellacked.

Not sure what you are implying there. What if Republicans win? Is that the end of the world?

Given the pace of climate change, possibly.

I mean, winning the presidency but not getting the Senate is a big step toward the end of the world. So yes, moving further away in 2022 would be a catastrophic event. We didn't have time to dick around in 2016. We don't have it now. We won't have it in 2022.

[Unagi]

How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.

She's a fighter, and a rising star. Biden's a conciliator and a setting star. Harris is the party's future. Biden's the last gasp of its past.

I hope Biden lasts through the midterms, because if Harris inherits the office before then the Dems will get shellacked.

Not sure what you are implying there. What if Republicans win? Is that the end of the world?

How much time do -you- think we have to dick around with Republican ideas to stave off the end of the world. I'm not sure what you are implying here.

[Kurth]

How do you lot rate Harris for President? Biden will not last 4 years.

I have similar concerns about Biden, but did you not see that man run out on the stage tonight? He was downright sprightly. I half expected him to bust out with some push ups after that. I was also impressed with his energy level during his speech - he was on fire and only slightly seemed to run out of gas at the very end. All in all, I'm a hell of a lot less worried about Biden's staying power now than I was last week.

As for Harris, I thought she did a great job tonight, and I think she is a promising and up and coming leader.

The one thing that rubbed me the wrong way about Harris is when she criticized Biden during the primaries, implying it was racist that he had made comments pointing to his experience working with segregationist senators as an example of his being able to work across the aisle -- even with those people he most fundamentally disagrees with -- in order to advance the ball in areas where there's common ground. I thought that line of attack was bogus, cheap and insincere.

But I'm getting over that, as Biden obviously has.

[Jaymann]

Ironically, the more Repugnicans focus on recounts, non-existent voter fraud, and unreality, the less damage they can do in the next 70 days.

Plus the Secret Service needs to designate a free safety to tackle Trump if he reaches for the nuclear football.

[RunningMn9]

It is delicious to find out that these last four years, the real victims are the people that supported Trump. Go fuck yourself Megyn Kelly.

[Jaymann]

Apparently AOC wants to blacklist Trump's cronies. In general I am opposed to blacklists. But I would make an exception for these racist, grifter, lawless scumbags.

[hepcat]

It is delicious to find out that these last four years, the real victims are the people that supported Trump. Go fuck yourself Megyn Kelly.

The abusive relationship these people had with Trump is astounding. He berates and insults them publicly when they don't follow his script, yet they go crawling back to him every time.

[malchior]

Apparently AOC wants to blacklist Trump's cronies. In general I am opposed to blacklists. But I would make an exception for these racist, grifter, lawless scumbags.

She is making a lot of noise this weekend and I think there are threads in her messaging that make some sense. This one is not one of them. Treating the GOP like Baathists is probably a bridge too far and likely unconstitutional. What we need to do is document what these grifters did in office, prosecute any crimes found, and hope any of that matters to future voters.

[RunningMn9]

It is delicious to find out that these last four years, the real victims are the people that supported Trump. Go fuck yourself Megyn Kelly.

The abusive relationship these people had with Trump is astounding. He berates and insults them publicly when they don't follow his script, yet they go crawling back to him every time.

To clarify, they are victims of OUR cruelty, not Trump’s.

[hepcat]

Okay. My reply is unrelated to your post then, but still something I believe to be true.

[Jaymann]

Melania has joined the group of those trying to talk Trump down off ledge. Trump is playing more golf.

[Jaymann]

Melania has joined the group of those trying to talk Trump down off ledge. Trump is playing more golf.

Somebody got to her - now she is on the "all legal votes" train wreck.

[Ralph-Wiggum]

I didn’t see AOC say anything close to blacklisting Trumpists. If this is the tweet you’re referring to, it seems to me she is just saying we should remember who the people enabling Trump were when they inevitably try to downplay their involvement.

https://twitter.com/aoc/status/1324807776510595078?s=21

[Jaymann]

I didn’t see AOC say anything close to blacklisting Trumpists. If this is the tweet you’re referring to, it seems to me she is just saying we should remember who the people enabling Trump were when they inevitably try to downplay their involvement.

https://twitter.com/aoc/status/1324807776510595078?s=21

I agree. "Blacklisting" was my word, holding accountable would have been better. I would hope that none of these berks are ever allowed into any future position of authority.

[malchior]

WaPo

November 8, 2020 at 8:09 PM EST
A Trump administration appointee is refusing to sign a letter allowing President-elect Joe Biden’s transition team to formally begin its work this week, in another sign the incumbent president has not acknowledged Biden’s victory and could disrupt the transfer of power.

The administrator of the General Services Administration, the low-profile agency in charge of federal buildings, has a little-known role when a new president is elected: to sign paperwork officially turning over millions of dollars, as well as give access to government officials, office space in agencies and equipment authorized for the taxpayer-funded transition teams of the winner.

It amounts to a formal declaration by the federal government, outside of the media, of the winner of the presidential race.


But by Sunday evening, almost 36 hours after media outlets projected Biden as the winner, GSA Administrator Emily Murphy had written no such letter. And the Trump administration, in keeping with the president’s failure to concede the election, has no immediate plans to sign one. This could lead to the first transition delay in modern history, except in 2000, when the Supreme Court decided a recount dispute between Al Gore and George W. Bush in December.

“An ascertainment has not yet been made,” Pamela Pennington, a spokeswoman for GSA, said in an email, “and its Administrator will continue to abide by, and fulfill, all requirements under the law.”

The GSA statement left experts on federal transitions to wonder when the White House expects the handoff from one administration to the next to begin — when the president has exhausted his legal avenues to fight the results, or the formal vote of the electoral college on Dec. 14? There are 74 days, as of Sunday, until the Biden inauguration on Jan. 20.

[malchior]

https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelHatte ... 7443830784

[hepcat]

Trump lover and Rondo Hatton impersonator Kenneth Copeland doesn’t believe Biden has won...and shows off the laugh he emits whenever another soul enters his dark domain.

https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/stat ... 58736.html

[noxiousdog]

Nailed it:

https://twitter.com/MarkHarrisNYC/statu ... 6838684672

[Holman]

Kenneth Copeland gets closer to the Uncanny Valley than any human alive.

[Archinerd]

Hypothetical Question;

Someone is trying to take your job but you know it's not true and you have all the best lawyers working to prove it. Meanwhile, there are rapists stealing American jobs, libetards undermining Law & Order, Pedophiles have infiltrated all levels of government, constant threats on the "sanctity of marriage", and useless government institutions unfairly taking the money of all your rich friends. What do you do?
A) Go golfing?
B) or fake looking busy so people think you're doing something about it.

Asking for a friend vile piece of shit who doesn't respect anything not attached to his penis.

[malchior]

Trump has the *best Lawyers in the world*.

Edit: This sure feels performative. Like they know they have no chance and aren't motivated to even check basic boxes. They're just keeping it alive for...outrage credit. What is the end game here?

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1 ... 9130431488

[El Guapo]

You also have to factor in that the Trump campaign is not exactly drawing from top legal talent pools at this point.

[Jaymann]

You also have to factor in that the Trump campaign is not exactly drawing from top legal talent pools at this point.

[Kurth]

Apparently AOC wants to blacklist Trump's cronies. In general I am opposed to blacklists. But I would make an exception for these racist, grifter, lawless scumbags.

She is making a lot of noise this weekend and I think there are threads in her messaging that make some sense. This one is not one of them. Treating the GOP like Baathists is probably a bridge too far and likely unconstitutional. What we need to do is document what these grifters did in office, prosecute any crimes found, and hope any of that matters to future voters.

I wish she would STFU and give Biden/Harris a little time and space to get their legs under them before she starts trying to push her agenda. Her talking points are not at all helpful right now.

[$iljanus]

Well, Sec of Defense Esper has been fired. Such a needless complication of the transition. They need to invoke the 25th

[malchior]

Apparently AOC wants to blacklist Trump's cronies. In general I am opposed to blacklists. But I would make an exception for these racist, grifter, lawless scumbags.

She is making a lot of noise this weekend and I think there are threads in her messaging that make some sense. This one is not one of them. Treating the GOP like Baathists is probably a bridge too far and likely unconstitutional. What we need to do is document what these grifters did in office, prosecute any crimes found, and hope any of that matters to future voters.

I wish she would STFU and give Biden/Harris a little time and space to get their legs under them before she starts trying to push her agenda. Her talking points are not at all helpful right now.

Agreed. What I think she is doing is defending progressivism because people are taking a very premature only the center can win message from the election when the reality is it is much more complicated. She actually had some insightful points about how the Democratic party's long-time inability to communicate is a huge weak spot. It is something they've needed to fix for a long-time. However, it appears to not be the problem where they need their message to work the most *right now* which is in GA. They've got one of their best strategists working it at the moment.

[Kurth]

Apparently AOC wants to blacklist Trump's cronies. In general I am opposed to blacklists. But I would make an exception for these racist, grifter, lawless scumbags.

She is making a lot of noise this weekend and I think there are threads in her messaging that make some sense. This one is not one of them. Treating the GOP like Baathists is probably a bridge too far and likely unconstitutional. What we need to do is document what these grifters did in office, prosecute any crimes found, and hope any of that matters to future voters.

I wish she would STFU and give Biden/Harris a little time and space to get their legs under them before she starts trying to push her agenda. Her talking points are not at all helpful right now.

Agreed. What I think she is doing is defending progressivism because people are taking a very premature only the center can win message from the election when the reality is it is much more complicated. She actually had some insightful points about how the Democratic party's long-time inability to communicate is a huge weak spot. It is something they've needed to fix for a long-time. However, it appears to not be the problem where they need their message to work the most *right now* which is in GA. They've got one of their best strategists working it at the moment.

My issue is more with timing and what looks to me to be a lack of sufficient wisdom to know that sometimes, the less said the better. She doesn’t need to come out swinging in response to John Kasich and the like. She should chill and bide her time. Progressives will have - and deserve - an opportunity to push their agenda. But that time isn’t now.

[El Guapo]

Well, Sec of Defense Esper has been fired. Such a needless complication of the transition. They need to invoke the 25th

My worry is less with the smoothness of the transition and more with whether this reflects Trump trying to find someone who will order the military to help him stay in power. Which I don't think he would succeed at, but which would be super alarming.