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There's no permit for the MAGA March.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/11/1 ... -a-permit/
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Zaxxon wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:11 pm The sore loser and the main loser (Scalzi).
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Probably more like the "150-185 MAGA March"

And I think the DC Police will look unkindly on those intending on bringing their guns.
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Jaymann wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:21 pm
Zaxxon wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:11 pm The sore loser and the main loser (Scalzi).
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Latest insanity from Hill Republicans: House @GOPLeader Kevin McCarthy says about President-elect @JoeBiden -- I "don't know if he'll be president January 20."
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Hey man, they were unloading out of the back, and she couldn't see what they were doing, ergo they must be full of ballots or chicom operators willing to turn the election for Hunter Biden.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:14 pm There's no permit for the MAGA March.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/11/1 ... -a-permit/
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Alefroth wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:19 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:14 pm There's no permit for the MAGA March.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/11/1 ... -a-permit/
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Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:14 pm There's no permit for the MAGA March.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/11/1 ... -a-permit/
At this point do we really think the protestors are going to let a little thing like no permit stop them? I mean, if the Park Police don't want to create an incident maybe they'll just let the protestors do whatever the fuck they want.
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John Fetterman is awesome. He's 6'9" and looks like he stepped into the Lt. Governorship straight from a Black Flag show.

The only question is whether he runs for governor (Wolf is term-limited) or senate (Toomey is retiring) in 2022.
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raydude wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:38 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:14 pm There's no permit for the MAGA March.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/11/1 ... -a-permit/
At this point do we really think the protestors are going to let a little thing like no permit stop them? I mean, if the Park Police don't want to create an incident maybe they'll just let the protestors do whatever the fuck they want.
Maybe Trump can bring out the BOP goons for an encore to protect the protestors.
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malchior wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:12 pm Hey man, they were unloading out of the back, and she couldn't see what they were doing, ergo they must be full of ballots or chicom operators willing to turn the election for Hunter Biden.
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Kraken wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:30 pm
malchior wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:12 pm Hey man, they were unloading out of the back, and she couldn't see what they were doing, ergo they must be full of ballots or chicom operators willing to turn the election for Hunter Biden.
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Top official on U.S. election cybersecurity tells associates he expects to be fired
Top U.S. cybersecurity official Christopher Krebs, who worked on protecting the election from hackers but drew the ire of the Trump White House over efforts to debunk disinformation, has told associates he expects to be fired, three sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.

Krebs, who heads the Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), did not return messages seeking comment. CISA and the White House declined comment.

Separately, Bryan Ware, assistant director for cybersecurity at CISA, confirmed to Reuters that he had handed in his resignation on Thursday. Ware did not provide details, but a U.S. official familiar with his matter said the White House asked for Ware’s resignation earlier this week.

The departure is part of the churn in the administration since Republican President Donald Trump was defeated by Democrat Joe Biden in last week’s election, raising concerns about the transition to the president-elect who would take office on Jan. 20. Trump, who has yet to concede and has repeatedly made unsubstantiated claims of electoral fraud, fired Defense Secretary Mark Esper and has installed loyalists in top positions at the Pentagon.

Krebs has drawn praise from both Democrats and Republicans for his handling of the election, which generally ran smoothly despite persistent fears that foreign hackers might try to undermine the vote.

But he drew the ire of the Trump White House over a website run by CISA dubbed “Rumor Control” which debunks misinformation about the election, according to the three people familiar with the matter.

White House officials have asked for content to be edited or removed which pushed back against numerous false claims about the election, including that Democrats are behind a mass election fraud scheme. CISA officials have chosen not to delete accurate information.
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How do you hold these thoughts in your head at the same time? I mean, I know that Trump is just throwing gasoline on the fire, but if you're an ardent follower, how do you process his statement?

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1327284770984914945
In this tweet, the president argues that the election was the most secure election ever except for the fact that it was rigged.
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Holman wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:35 pm

John Fetterman is awesome. He's 6'9" and looks like he stepped into the Lt. Governorship straight from a Black Flag show.

The only question is whether he runs for governor (Wolf is term-limited) or senate (Toomey is retiring) in 2022.
I looked up his back story when someone posted about him a little while ago. The guy's practically a saint. He's spent most of his adult life working with at risk kids and other community programs. He's the kind of politician we need in this country.

Also...

This is some third world country shit.
White House trade adviser Peter Navarro said Friday that the Trump administration is operating as if it will extend into a second term, attempting to stiff-arm the reality of last week's election and dismissing talk that the incoming Biden administration might unwind many of President Donald Trump's policies.

“We are moving forward here at the White House under the assumption there will be a second Trump term,” Navarro said on Fox Business, echoing a refrain from Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and the president’s most steadfast allies. Those remarks represent a sharp departure from the electoral reality that President-elect Joe Biden was the victor in last week's presidential election, claiming at least 290 electoral votes and winning the popular vote by more than 5 million votes.

The president has refused to concede to Biden and his administration has rejected any appearance of assisting with the transfer of power while Trump’s campaign pursues a portfolio of legal challenges in a last-ditch attempt to save the president’s reelection.

“Until we do that, our assumption is a second Trump term,” Navarro said. “Any speculation about what Joe Biden might do, I think, is moot at this point.”

Navarro’s comments came in response to a question about whether a forthcoming Biden administration would reverse an executive order Trump signed Thursday prohibiting Americans from investing in a group of Chinese companies that the White House said has ties to the People's Liberation Army.

Navarro also amplified Trump’s assaults on the integrity of the democratic process after the president's election night lead in battleground states evaporated as more votes were counted.

“We have what appears, in some sense, to be an immaculate deception” the White House trade adviser said of the legal vote-counting process.
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Smoove_B wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:13 pm How do you hold these thoughts in your head at the same time? I mean, I know that Trump is just throwing gasoline on the fire, but if you're an ardent follower, how do you process his statement?

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1327284770984914945
In this tweet, the president argues that the election was the most secure election ever except for the fact that it was rigged.
In future dictionaries this will be the definitive example of cognitive dissonance.
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hepcat wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:16 pm
Holman wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:35 pm

John Fetterman is awesome. He's 6'9" and looks like he stepped into the Lt. Governorship straight from a Black Flag show.

The only question is whether he runs for governor (Wolf is term-limited) or senate (Toomey is retiring) in 2022.
This is some third world country shit.
He found the right venue for these comments. Maria Bartiromo just nodded along as he said this. That is just embarrassing. No pushback at all. At least ask, "What happens if Biden's election is certified?". Anything at all.
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malchior wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:02 pm
hepcat wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:16 pm
Holman wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:35 pm

John Fetterman is awesome. He's 6'9" and looks like he stepped into the Lt. Governorship straight from a Black Flag show.

The only question is whether he runs for governor (Wolf is term-limited) or senate (Toomey is retiring) in 2022.
This is some third world country shit.
He found the right venue for these comments. Maria Bartiromo just nodded along as he said this. That is just embarrassing. No pushback at all. At least ask, "What happens if Biden's election is certified?". Anything at all.
So, at a conceptual level I don't have a massive issue with what Navarro said. He's basically saying "until everything's resolved we'll act as if we're going to still be in office" with the presumed context being "better to be ready to remain in office than not". In a world where there was still genuine uncertainty about the outcome of the election, that would make a lot of sense.

He's just, you know, ignoring the conclusive evidence that the election is over.
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Smoove_B wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:13 pm How do you hold these thoughts in your head at the same time? I mean, I know that Trump is just throwing gasoline on the fire, but if you're an ardent follower, how do you process his statement?

[cut tweet]
In this tweet, the president argues that the election was the most secure election ever except for the fact that it was rigged.
In the MAGA mind there were two elections: wherever Trump and Trumpers won, it was fair and clean; where Dems won, it was rigged.

The latter is true even when Dems won in Red-administered elections, or where Biden won even while down-ballot races went Red.

It's well-established in Political Science that no candidate without boat parades can win fairly.
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El Guapo wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:31 pm
malchior wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:02 pm
hepcat wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:16 pm
Holman wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:35 pm

John Fetterman is awesome. He's 6'9" and looks like he stepped into the Lt. Governorship straight from a Black Flag show.

The only question is whether he runs for governor (Wolf is term-limited) or senate (Toomey is retiring) in 2022.
This is some third world country shit.
He found the right venue for these comments. Maria Bartiromo just nodded along as he said this. That is just embarrassing. No pushback at all. At least ask, "What happens if Biden's election is certified?". Anything at all.
So, at a conceptual level I don't have a massive issue with what Navarro said. He's basically saying "until everything's resolved we'll act as if we're going to still be in office" with the presumed context being "better to be ready to remain in office than not". In a world where there was still genuine uncertainty about the outcome of the election, that would make a lot of sense.

He's just, you know, ignoring the conclusive evidence that the election is over.
Did you catch the part where he calls the Biden win “immaculate deception”?
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hepcat wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:16 pm “immaculate deception”
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Holman wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:46 pm
hepcat wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:16 pm “immaculate deception”
No harm, no foul
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This was 6 minutes well spent.



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Skinypupy wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:02 am I blame Kraken for getting me hooked on Beau.
I still watch him nearly every night. Many of his videos are too Florida-centric or don't pique my interest for other reasons, but when he hits, he's spot-on.
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Skinypupy wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:02 am I blame Kraken for getting me hooked on Beau.
I watch some of his stuff, and have not been disappointed in anything I have watched.
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Maybe I’m just being overly optimistic, but it feels like Trump’s effort is really running out of steam. The only people amplifying the message are the usual “true believers”. Everyone else seems to be moving on as he loses every legal challenge and howls deeper down the conspiracy rabbit hole.

There’s always the chance that he’ll lob in an insane grenade (like declaring war on Seattle), but I ultimately expect him to give up. He’ll never concede, mind you, he’ll just take his ball and go home while crying about “rigged” and “cheating”.
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Skinypupy wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:10 am There’s always the chance that he’ll lob in an insane grenade (like declaring war on Seattle), but I ultimately expect him to give up. He’ll never concede, mind you, he’ll just take his ball and go home while crying about “rigged” and “cheating”.
If it comes down to lobbing grenades and declaring war I'm willing to bet Trump will throw them at those who he thinks betrayed him: Arizona, Georgia, and Fox.
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Oh he'll moan publicly about this loss for the rest of his life.
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I also just read he has put Guliani in charge of all his campaign lawsuits related to the election. If that isn’t the ultimate white flag, I don’t know what is.

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/13 ... 2807607297
NEW - Trump has put Rudy Giuliani in charge of his campaign lawsuits related to the outcome of the election, as well as all public communications related to them
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This is also encouraging news.

https://twitter.com/jpaceDC/status/1327620970056720384
GOP leaders in 4 critical states won by Biden say they won’t participate in a legally dubious scheme to flip electors to Trump. Their comments effectively shut down a half-baked plot some Republicans floated as a last chance to keep Trump in office.
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Skinypupy wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:17 am I also just read he has put Guliani in charge of all his campaign lawsuits related to the election. If that isn’t the ultimate white flag, I don’t know what is.

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/13 ... 2807607297
NEW - Trump has put Rudy Giuliani in charge of his campaign lawsuits related to the outcome of the election, as well as all public communications related to them
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The latest Pod Save America talked about the possibilities of Trump remaining in office and they were pretty darn convincing that it really can’t happen. While it is state specific, the law in PA is that legislature must send electors of the party that wins the popular vote. There’s no (legal) wiggle room. And even if enough other states can do something funky (which also seems incredibly unlikely based on their laws and/or who controls the governorship and Secretary of State), the acceptance of the electors goes through the House and so Nancy Pelosi will have a say in the process. Finally, if there’s some dispute between electors sent by states that hasn’t been resolved by Jan. 20, then our new president is Nancy Pelosi. The takeaway was that unless there is some batshit crazy rulings by the courts that invalidates tens of thousands of votes across multiple states, there’s no way for Trump to remain in office except by some sort of military coup.
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Ya aside from using the military he's out of tricks. Unless Rudy the super lawyer saves the day. :lol:
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-law ... 20-11-15-3
Former federal prosecutor Sidney Powell, a Trump campaign lawyer, suggested in a Sunday interview that the president’s legal team is receiving a deluge of evidence concerning voter fraud and irregularities.

“We’re getting ready to overturn election results in multiple states,” Powell said on Fox Business, adding that she has enough evidence of election fraud to launch a widespread criminal investigation. “I don’t make comments without having the evidence to back it up.”
“We’ve identified mathematically the exact algorithm they’ve used—and planned to use from the beginning” that allegedly switched votes to Biden, Powell said.
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Exact algorithm: 72,000,000 + 5,000,000.
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