Election integrity and the transfer of power

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:50 pm

At last! Irrefutable proof of voter fraud: All Chinese look alike.

Edward-Isaac Dovere
@IsaacDovere

“I think Chinese all look alike. How can you tell? If some Chow shows up, you can be anybody and you can vote.” -one of Rudy Giuliani’s witnesses yesterday insisting there must have been voter fraud in Michigan

Yes, it’s an actual quote.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:01 pm

Jaymann wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:50 pm At last! Irrefutable proof of voter fraud: All Chinese look alike.

Edward-Isaac Dovere
@IsaacDovere

“I think Chinese all look alike. How can you tell? If some Chow shows up, you can be anybody and you can vote.” -one of Rudy Giuliani’s witnesses yesterday insisting there must have been voter fraud in Michigan

Yes, it’s an actual quote.

I just threw up a little reading that. I love Michigan so much but there are so many really horrid people here too. Ugh. If we get nothing else out of the Biden presidency I'm really really really wanting to see all the racist ignorant people crawling back under a rock - hopefully for good and hopefully without spreading their ignorance to anyone on their way down. At least any more ones I guess.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:10 pm

It's bad but in context it's not as bad.

https://twitter.com/IsaacDovere/status/ ... 2193317888

She's obviously of some sort of South Asian ethnicity, complete with 1st generation accent and leads with "A lot people think Indians look alike..."

After the stereotyping, the meat of the "witnessing" was pretty bad. The argument was something akin to "ID needs to be minimum to vote because we can't validate who a person is by looking at them and they could be using someone's else's ID."

Michigan's laws allow you to vote without an ID but you are documented as doing so.

https://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-1 ... --,00.html

If your vote was found twice

https://upnorthlive.com/news/local/mich ... g-election

Anyone who votes twice can be found in violation of both state and federal law.

At the state level, if you intentionally vote twice, you could face penalties of four years in prison and a $2,000 fine. Penalties at the federal level include five years in prison and up to a $10,000 fine.

So pretending to be Chow when Chow actually voted with Chow's ID, would presumably get your vote tossed and open you to a bit of legal problems if caught.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:23 pm

MSNBC is on the background and all morning they are going off on Barr saying there is no evidence of fraud on the scale that matters and they are championing his separation from the president. Why do I feel they are putting their faith in the wrong place. I mean great, reference it, but to make an ongoing all day long continued feature of the day? That feels scary.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:44 pm

LordMortis wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:23 pm MSNBC is on the background and all morning they are going off on Barr saying there is no evidence of fraud on the scale that matters and they are championing his separation from the president. Why do I feel they are putting their faith in the wrong place. I mean great, reference it, but to make an ongoing all day long continued feature of the day? That feels scary.

And Barr announced some dimwitted "investigation" of the investigators of the 2016 Russian voting influence scandal. Trump criticized him for not launching it just before the election. Barr is no friend of Democracy.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:26 pm

Now up to $207 million. They’re raking in just under $7MM a day since the election.

There ain’t no way they’re going to do anything to slow down that grift train.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:09 pm

LordMortis wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:10 pm It's bad but in context it's not as bad.

There is no context that makes that “not as bad”.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:16 pm

hepcat wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:09 pm
LordMortis wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:10 pm It's bad but in context it's not as bad.
There is no context that makes that “not as bad”.

What if an eccentric omnipotent Q appeared and demanded that they say something racist on TV or they would exterminate humanity?

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:28 pm

I would counter with my own fan fiction featuring Charlie Evans issuing a beat down on Q.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:25 am

One of our local business leaders donated over 2 million to Trump's "fight the rigged election" grift and is now upset and wants his money back. His tears are delicious.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:16 am

Kraken wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:20 am I had to squint to make sure that wasn't Kate McKinnon doing a character.

I'm going back even further to the Victoria Jackson era.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:19 am

Alefroth wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:16 am
Kraken wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:20 am I had to squint to make sure that wasn't Kate McKinnon doing a character.
I'm going back even further the the Victoria Jackson era.

I thought of her first, too! The voice is just right. But I wondered if anyone would remember her so I went for the crowdpleaser.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:15 am

Turns out she (the witness, not Jackson) previously served 12 months probation for committing a computer crime. She's a graduate of ITT Tech. I had no idea they were still around. I got duped into taking some classes there in the late 80s.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:17 am

Kraken wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:19 am
Alefroth wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:16 am
Kraken wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:20 am I had to squint to make sure that wasn't Kate McKinnon doing a character.
I'm going back even further the the Victoria Jackson era.
I thought of her first, too! The voice is just right. But I wondered if anyone would remember her so I went for the crowdpleaser.

I think she's the kind of person Jackson eventually turned into.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:38 am

Alefroth wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:15 am She's a graduate of ITT Tech. I had no idea they were still around. I got duped into taking some classes there in the late 80s.

They're not.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:09 am

Countdown to Biden inauguration as President:

47 DAYS

Trump's narc, er liaison, Heidi Stirrup (can't make this shite up), to the Department of Justice was banned (Barred?) from the building for snooping into case information on voter fraud.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:43 am

Alefroth wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:17 am
Kraken wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:19 am
Alefroth wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:16 am
Kraken wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:20 am I had to squint to make sure that wasn't Kate McKinnon doing a character.
I'm going back even further the the Victoria Jackson era.
I thought of her first, too! The voice is just right. But I wondered if anyone would remember her so I went for the crowdpleaser.
I think she's the kind of person Jackson eventually turned into.

Yeah, I thought I remembered reading that Victoria Jackson had gone nuts. I guess she joined the tea party and never came back.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:48 pm

Trump Pentagon Nominee Boosted Calls For Martial Law This Week.

Seems fine.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:19 pm

Skinypupy wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:38 am
Alefroth wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:15 am She's a graduate of ITT Tech. I had no idea they were still around. I got duped into taking some classes there in the late 80s.
They're not.

Four years is practically yesterday when you're my age

I'm really surprised they lasted that long though.

raydude · Post by **raydude** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:10 pm

YellowKing wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:25 am One of our local business leaders donated over 2 million to Trump's "fight the rigged election" grift and is now upset and wants his money back. His tears are delicious.

Please share more. What did he expect to happen and what actually happened to make him be upset? And is he still in the pro-Trump camp even after being conned?

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:30 pm

raydude wrote:Please share more. What did he expect to happen and what actually happened to make him be upset? And is he still in the pro-Trump camp even after being conned?

It's this clown. He made national news:

Trump supporter who gave 2.5m to fight election fraud wants money back

Unfortunately not much detail on his mindset.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:52 am

Just 10% of the Republicans in the House acknowledge Biden as President-Elect.

Just 25 congressional Republicans acknowledge Joe Biden’s win over President Trump a month after the former vice president’s clear victory of more than 7 million votes nationally and a convincing electoral-vote margin that exactly matched Trump’s 2016 tally.

Two Republicans consider Trump the winner despite all evidence showing otherwise. And another 222 GOP members of the House and Senate — nearly 90 percent of all Republicans serving in Congress — will simply not say who won the election.

Those are the findings of a Washington Post survey of all 249 Republicans in the House and Senate that began the morning after Trump posted a 46-minute video Wednesday evening in which he wrongly claimed he had defeated Biden and leveled wild and unsubstantiated allegations of “corrupt forces” who stole the outcome from the sitting president.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:00 am

I will be so glad when Biden is swore in and we can stop reading about this denial BS.

Even my dad, who is no fan of Trump, has been posting stuff hinting at how there was massive election fraud.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:04 am

As usual, the GOP’s “flood the zone with shit” strategy combined with the media’s “we have to tell ‘both sides’, no matter how absurd one of those sides is” mantra has turned lots of otherwise rational people into conspiracy theorists over this.

It’s infuriating to see blatant lies and misinformation continually being spread in the name of “fairness”.

https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/13 ... 0390209537

Undermining Americans' confidence in our democracy has been a surprisingly inexpensive thing to do. President Trump spent about $8.8 million on it so far, and millions of Americans now believe the lie that the election was rigged

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:44 am

YellowKing wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:00 am I will be so glad when Biden is swore in and we can stop reading about this denial BS.

It'll just change to how he is an illegitimate President. I would have been more interested to see how all the Republican Senators respond because they'll actually matter for the next 2 years at least.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:50 am

Countdown to Biden inauguration as President:

46 DAYS

Herschel Walker endorses Captain Conspiracy and his Lost Planet Lawyers.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:11 pm

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1335 ... 10626?s=20

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:16 pm

malchior wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:52 am
Just 10% of the Republicans in the House acknowledge Biden as President-Elect.

Just 25 congressional Republicans acknowledge Joe Biden’s win over President Trump a month after the former vice president’s clear victory of more than 7 million votes nationally and a convincing electoral-vote margin that exactly matched Trump’s 2016 tally.

Two Republicans consider Trump the winner despite all evidence showing otherwise. And another 222 GOP members of the House and Senate — nearly 90 percent of all Republicans serving in Congress — will simply not say who won the election.

Those are the findings of a Washington Post survey of all 249 Republicans in the House and Senate that began the morning after Trump posted a 46-minute video Wednesday evening in which he wrongly claimed he had defeated Biden and leveled wild and unsubstantiated allegations of “corrupt forces” who stole the outcome from the sitting president.

What happens on Jan 6th when they need to count the votes ?

Is this the day we find out what position we are really in ?

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:50 pm

Trump’s attorney, Lin Wood, seems to be having a full-on gibbering psychotic break on Twitter this morning. Take a look (if you dare)...these loons are true believers.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:03 pm

Man, you aren’t kidding. He’s posting like crazy.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:03 pm

Unagi wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:03 pm Man, you aren’t kidding. He’s posting like crazy.

Literally and figuratively.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:05 pm

I’m glad you caught that.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:16 pm

As long as he is pushing the "voters stay home" agenda he can go to town on the looney tunes.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:54 pm

El Guapo wrote:Trump Pentagon Nominee Boosted Calls For Martial Law This Week.

Seems fine.

Not "martial law", a Military Coup. Get it right media.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:56 pm

These are the tweets I like to see from Trump’s lawyer: https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/133 ... 05605?s=20

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:22 pm

Skinypupy wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:50 pm Trump’s attorney, Lin Wood, seems to be having a full-on gibbering psychotic break on Twitter this morning. Take a look (if you dare)...these loons are true believers.

Meanwhile he's posted once on Parler during that time:

@linwood wrote:have been on the battlefield of Twitter. I will return today periodically to Parler. The anger in GA Is rising by the minute. The election in GA was a fraud. Caught on tape. Brian Kemp is a fraud & needs to be removed from office immediately. He stole our money & our votes. He gave both to China.

Prior to that, 4 days ago:

@linwood wrote: We have ALL sensed it over the past several months. We have tried to avoid the ugly TRUTH. Now we must face the TRUTH, embrace it & live it. We are in the brink of war for our freedom. Prepare. Pray.

@linwood wrote:PATRIOT ALERT: Information being received NOW that Communist China purchased Dominion Voting in October 8 for $400M. Efforts underway to verify. If true, this confirms other evidence that Communists intend to overthrow our government to get our precious land. NOT ON OUR WATCH.

Lots of war and battle imagery. I get the feeling that if he says shoot, they'll shoot.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:25 pm

Pyperkub wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:54 pm
El Guapo wrote:Trump Pentagon Nominee Boosted Calls For Martial Law This Week.

Seems fine.
Not "martial law", a Military Coup. Get it right media.

Following the election, O’Grady retweeted assertions about Georgia elections officials having “something to hide” and about Donald Trump winning the state of California,

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:25 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:22 pm
Lots of war and battle imagery. I get the feeling that if he says shoot, they'll shoot.

Parler is nucking futs

https://mobile.twitter.com/Bo_Gardiner/ ... 7040081921

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:29 pm

The right are also losing their mind because an aide to Loeffler who had family ties to Kemp's family died in a horrific 3-car crash. Tweet below as reference. So let's get this straight -- some non-specific someone or entity killed the 20-year old boyfriend of the Governor's daughter...why? They are all fucking loons. Everything is a deep dark conspiracy.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JuliansRum/s ... 7618832385

Little Raven · Post by **Little Raven** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:47 pm

There is certainly plenty of craziness going on, but I wonder....is anyone seeing this in real life, as opposed to on social media?

I ask because I've been reaching out to my Republican friends, and I haven't encountered one of them that buys into any of this crap, much less one who is willing to start shooting. Admittedly, I'm not in the habit of making friends who are literally crazy, but I am in Texas, where you would expect this kind of thing to be rampant.