LordMortis wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:04 am
Kevin McCarthy is on CNBC attacking youtube for taking down videos about "election fraud" as an attack on the American people. "take the politics out of it." right after he's been turning everything from election to COVID to failures of the democratic party and some sort of attack on Hunter Biden and not acknowledging Biden saying only "I am confident every legal vote will be counted by January 20th."
I was beginning to turn to CNBC as less politically filtered news but when they let their guests do that they let McCarthy did, I'm less interested. I miss NBR on PBS which was essentially from CNBC. I really thought their news filter was top notch.
Joe Kernan is partisan as hell. The rest are OK but they've felt compelled to give "equal time" to poitical nutjobs ever since Larry Kudlow went to Trump's WH. And of course if someone moves markets they'll have them on (McConnell, Mnuchin, etc).
Shepherd Smith has a show on there now but I never watch CNBC past market close.
" Hey OP, listen to my advice alright." -Tha General "“I like taking the guns early...to go to court would have taken a long time. So you could do exactly what you’re saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second.” -President Donald Trump. "...To guard, protect, and maintain his liberty, the freedman should have the ballot; that the liberties of the American people were dependent upon the Ballot-box, the Jury-box, and the Cartridge-box, that without these no class of people could live and flourish in this country." - Frederick Douglass MYT
Is that who interviewed McCarthy this morning? If so that sucks because he's the guy that's the lead for "SquackBox" when I am getting ready for work in the morning.
LordMortis wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:25 am
Is that who interviewed McCarthy this morning? If so that sucks because he's the guy that's the lead for "SquackBox" when I am getting ready for work in the morning.
I want my NBR back.
Yeah, that's Joe. Andrew (the other guy) is a decent balance. And regardless of party, all Joe wants is market highs.
" Hey OP, listen to my advice alright." -Tha General "“I like taking the guns early...to go to court would have taken a long time. So you could do exactly what you’re saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second.” -President Donald Trump. "...To guard, protect, and maintain his liberty, the freedman should have the ballot; that the liberties of the American people were dependent upon the Ballot-box, the Jury-box, and the Cartridge-box, that without these no class of people could live and flourish in this country." - Frederick Douglass MYT
The issue is mine, I guess. I'm looking to settle on a morning news program in the background to keep me company and I have such fond memories of the evening news being filtered through NBR. It would appear that CNBC are doing daily OpEd during my most active listening time. Ah well.
Edit. Watched your link. I have them backwards. Joe has a sense of humor. Andrew was the one "interviewing" McCarthy.
LordMortis wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:22 pm
Andrew also has a sense of humor.
The issue is mine, I guess. I'm looking to settle on a morning news program in the background to keep me company and I have such fond memories of the evening news being filtered through NBR. It would appear that CNBC are doing daily OpEd during my most active listening time. Ah well.
Edit. Watched your link. I have them backwards. Joe has a sense of humor. Andrew was the one "interviewing" McCarthy.
I saw a bit of Mccarthy this morning, I saw Joe talking. They may have split questions, they usually do.
" Hey OP, listen to my advice alright." -Tha General "“I like taking the guns early...to go to court would have taken a long time. So you could do exactly what you’re saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second.” -President Donald Trump. "...To guard, protect, and maintain his liberty, the freedman should have the ballot; that the liberties of the American people were dependent upon the Ballot-box, the Jury-box, and the Cartridge-box, that without these no class of people could live and flourish in this country." - Frederick Douglass MYT
More than half of House Republicans and 2/3 of GOP state AGs have signed on to the insane Texas lawsuit.
Most of them are not clueless idiots. They know Biden won, but they're playing along because there are no consequences for lying and because the GOP base is willing to overthrow the Republic and name Donald Trump as dictator.
Now 106 members of Congress filed a brief in favor of Texas' request to throw out the results of the presidential election in 4 states that didn't vote for Trump, partly because it's important the government operate "based on the consent of the governed."
The best summary (from that thread):
Their argument is literally "we personally and deliberately ruined trust in the electoral process, now it's very important that you make our lies into truth so that trust in the electoral process can be restored."
When darkness veils the world, four Warriors of Light shall come.
They have violated their oath of office and should face consequences. I'll leave it up to those that know more than I do to figure out exactly what that entails.
Smoove_B wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:47 pm
They have violated their oath of office and should face consequences. I'll leave it up to those that know more than I do to figure out exactly what that entails.
Some of them are saying throw out the ballots that elected them *personally*. Can we consider it a resignation?
Throw out our vote then we should no longer be part of the US and no longer pay federal taxes or collect federal money's.
Canada, would you take us? I'm ready to be part of Canada. We generate more money in tax revenue than we take in. You already send all your Ontario trash to us and we had a very busy border until March, full of partnerships in commerce. Please. Pretty please.
Battleground states issue blistering rebukes to Texas' lawsuit to invalidate millions of votes.
Each of the four battleground states targeted by a Texas lawsuit seeking to overturn President Donald Trump's election defeat issued blistering briefs at the Supreme Court on Thursday, with Pennsylvania officials going so far as to call the effort a "seditious abuse of the judicial process."
"Texas's effort to get this Court to pick the next President has no basis in law or fact. The Court should not abide this seditious abuse of the judicial process, and should send a clear and unmistakable signal that such abuse must never be replicated," wrote Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro.
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel addressed the lawsuit with equally strong language, writing that "the election in Michigan is over. Texas comes as a stranger to this matter and should not be heard here."
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I am Dyslexic of Borg, prepare to have your ass laminated.
I guess Ray Butts has ate his last pancake. http://steamcommunity.com/id/daehawk
"Has high IQ. Refuses to apply it"
When in doubt, skewer it out...I don't know.
If someone doesn’t bring these people up on charges of treason after Biden is inaugurated, there’s no justice. What we’re witnessing is sedition, as noted earlier. Pure and simple sedition.
There was a second one today with Trump as the Plaintiff. Judge said he’s not ruling on that one until tomorrow. He didn’t sound quite as skeptical as the others, which was a little concerning.
We’ll see tomorrow.
When darkness veils the world, four Warriors of Light shall come.
Important video to watch. We are in serious danger as a nation right now. You have to take this seriously. We face the potential of widespread violence. It may subside early in the Biden Presidency but challenging his Presidency's legitimacy will be the Republican call for the next 4 years.
Holman wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:30 pm
More than half of House Republicans and 2/3 of GOP state AGs have signed on to the insane Texas lawsuit.
Most of them are not clueless idiots. They know Biden won, but they're playing along because there are no consequences for lying and because the GOP base is willing to overthrow the Republic and name Donald Trump as dictator.
What a dreadful place we've come to.
this is seriously a low point for (half of) the country.
There was a second one today with Trump as the Plaintiff. Judge said he’s not ruling on that one until tomorrow. He didn’t sound quite as skeptical as the others, which was a little concerning.
We’ll see tomorrow.
I love this part from the Court order:
President Trump’s interest is in being re-elected, while the plaintiff has said that his interest is in having his vote count and not be diluted. If his interest is solely in getting President Trump re-elected, as opposed to having his vote be counted as part of a valid election process, the court is aware of no constitutional provision that gives him the right to have his candidate of choice declared the victor.
We have to find some way to hang this around their neck in perpetuity.
The right-wing base is lost to sanity forever, but we should never stop reminding independents and new voters that the Republicans hate the Republic and the Constitution.
Blackhawk wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:40 amIn a few decades, ethics chats are going to replace 'baby Hitler' with 'baby Trump.'
God I hope not.
I want Trump remembered as a petulant failure of a President who continually overestimated his own competence, not a dictator who successfully dismantled a democratic system and launched a genocidal reign of terror.
/. "She climbed backwards out her
\/ window into Outside Over There."
Blackhawk wrote:Genocidal? No. Cultural violence? He's still doing his best.
I'd argue he committed a form of genocide by proxy by politicizing Covid. Both his actions and inaction are directly responsible for the deaths of thousands.
Blackhawk wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:40 amIn a few decades, ethics chats are going to replace 'baby Hitler' with 'baby Trump.'
God I hope not.
I want Trump remembered as a petulant failure of a President who continually overestimated his own competence, not a dictator who successfully dismantled a democratic system and launched a genocidal reign of terror.
I want him diminished and ridiculed in the future. I want him to be a joke. Hitler still inspires neo Nazis, while Henry the VIIIth is a fat guy with a turkey leg. I want that turkey leg planted in Trump's small little fist in all future depictions.
Blackhawk wrote:Genocidal? No. Cultural violence? He's still doing his best.
I'd argue he committed a form of genocide by proxy by politicizing Covid. Both his actions and inaction are directly responsible for the deaths of thousands.
And when you look at the people who died - the impact fell heavily along racial lines. That was the underlying problems rearing its head but that was why he doubled down on the economy and not the disease.
Blackhawk wrote:Genocidal? No. Cultural violence? He's still doing his best.
I'd argue he committed a form of genocide by proxy by politicizing Covid. Both his actions and inaction are directly responsible for the deaths of thousands.
And when you look at the people who died - the impact fell heavily along racial lines. That was the underlying problems rearing its head but that was why he doubled down on the economy and not the disease.
Let's not forget climate change. Impact may not be as immediate, but the consequences of 4 years of inaction (and anti-action) certainly will have a greater death toll if we look out forward far enough. We didn't have those years to waste.
NEW: Another 20 House Republicans sign onto an amicus brief supporting the Texas lawsuit that seeks to overturn the election – including
@GOPLeader. The total is 126; 64% of the House GOP caucus
When darkness veils the world, four Warriors of Light shall come.
Again, they're doing it because there's no consequences in apparently calling for the invalidation of votes. Whatever consequences for their actions that should be applied, need to be applied - immediately. I know they won't because Trump paved the way for that. But for them to be able to say and do this without anything happening is beyond troubling.
Blackhawk wrote:Genocidal? No. Cultural violence? He's still doing his best.
I'd argue he committed a form of genocide by proxy by politicizing Covid. Both his actions and inaction are directly responsible for the deaths of thousands.
Genocide has a specific meaning, and you dilute the horror of the word by applying it to what Trump did. He was criminally negligent, IMO, but that's not even close to genocide.
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions. – G.K. Chesterton
Smoove_B wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:19 pm
Again, they're doing it because there's no consequences in apparently calling for the invalidation of votes. Whatever consequences for their actions that should be applied, need to be applied - immediately. I know they won't because Trump paved the way for that. But for them to be able to say and do this without anything happening is beyond troubling.
There will be no consequences. Only 21% of Republicans believe that no election fraud was committed. Most of the Republican House members are in safe gerrymandered districts. I suspect only the most hard core Trumpers believe this but they can't afford to not support Trump and have a primary challenger ask why they didn't support the president when he needed them. It's both political cowardice and political expediency.
The only medium term hope is that Trump at some point in the next 4 years either dies or is indicted for some sort of tax/financial fraud which then will absorb most of his limited intellectual capacity. Otherwise, he will continue his grip on the party.
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Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions. – G.K. Chesterton
