Election integrity and the transfer of power

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:46 pm

Holman wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:13 pm Somewhere there's a rule that the "debate" lasts only two hours, so this will be a brief and embarrassing Twitter blip at most. It will mainly be about soliciting favorable Trump tweets (for Republicans) and generating soundbites (for Democrats) for 2022 campaign ads.

Only the slimmest fingerful of GOP senators have signaled support for a challenge. But an overturn requires a majority in both houses, so even if all the GOP senators went crazy, Pelosi could still casually thwart them.

Thanks Holman, that was my understanding as well. I just didn’t know if having a larger number of House reps in favor changed anything other than the optics. Doesn’t seem like it does, which makes it this yet another opportunity for grandstanding House members to publicly declare their undying loyalty to Dear Leader with zero risk.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:49 pm

Yeah - I didn't intend any implication that it changes anything. It was more the importance of noting that 2/3 of a party in one of our highest elected bodies is essentially yelling 'Death to Democracy' and has radicalized.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:15 pm

malchior wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:49 pm Yeah - I didn't intend any implication that it changes anything. It was more the importance of noting that 2/3 of a party in one of our highest elected bodies is essentially yelling 'Death to Democracy' and has radicalized.

Yeah. It’s rather scary to consider that if it were not for a slim 5 seat majority, there’s a non-zero chance this coup would actually succeed.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:44 pm

Skinypupy wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:15 pm
malchior wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:49 pm Yeah - I didn't intend any implication that it changes anything. It was more the importance of noting that 2/3 of a party in one of our highest elected bodies is essentially yelling 'Death to Democracy' and has radicalized.
Yeah. It’s rather scary to consider that if it were not for a slim 5 seat majority, there’s a non-zero chance this coup would actually succeed.

Would it? They would have to reject, what, five states? to change the outcome. Unless I'm mistaken, they are only challenging PA.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:10 pm

Kraken wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:44 pm
Skinypupy wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:15 pm
malchior wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:49 pm Yeah - I didn't intend any implication that it changes anything. It was more the importance of noting that 2/3 of a party in one of our highest elected bodies is essentially yelling 'Death to Democracy' and has radicalized.
Yeah. It’s rather scary to consider that if it were not for a slim 5 seat majority, there’s a non-zero chance this coup would actually succeed.
Would it? They would have to reject, what, five states? to change the outcome. Unless I'm mistaken, they are only challenging PA.

Hold my covfefe.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:43 pm

Skinypupy wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:15 pm
malchior wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:49 pm Yeah - I didn't intend any implication that it changes anything. It was more the importance of noting that 2/3 of a party in one of our highest elected bodies is essentially yelling 'Death to Democracy' and has radicalized.
Yeah. It’s rather scary to consider that if it were not for a slim 5 seat majority, there’s a non-zero chance this coup would actually succeed.

Just rejecting the votes wouldn't give Trump the victory though.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:06 am

The RNC has rented out space at the Dalton GA airport at $2500 a day for 3 days. Trump is gonna fly in to support the two local idiots. They expect 20,000.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:07 am

Countdown to Biden inauguration as President:

19 DAYS

Survived 2020, but according to the Chinese we are still in the year of the Rat.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:32 am

Daehawk wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:06 am The RNC has rented out space at the Dalton GA airport at $2500 a day for 3 days. Trump is gonna fly in to support the two local idiots air his personal grievances for an an hour before briefly mentioning the candidates. They expect 20,000 local idiots.

FTFY

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:58 am

hahahaha Perfect!

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:10 pm

Lin Wood is on a roll:

https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/134 ... 41475?s=20

Thread:

(1) For two months we have focused on accusing the Democrats of attempting to steal the 20/20 election for Biden. We focused on the Presidential election.

We focused on the obvious.

Over time, we have learned that the Democrats were joined by CCP & other foreign countries.

(2) We have also learned that the Globalists like George Soros & the Elitists like Bill Gates were involved. CIA too (no surprise - military industrial complex).

It all seemed so clear we overlooked one of the main participants in the theft of the election:

THE REPUBLICANS.

(3) These groups aspire to the goals of Communism. A ruling elite & an oppressed class of people who exist to serve those in power.

When arrests for treason begin, put Chief Justice John Roberts, VP Mike Pence @VP
@Mike_Pence, & Mitch McConnell @senatemajldr at top of list.

And here's where he says that Mike Pence will be executed by firing squad:

https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/134 ... 87840?s=20

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:17 pm

Lin Wood is a great canary. We think he is clearly insane and in fantasy land but he is *not* a fringe player in their world. Every time you think the crazy narrative will unwind it just shifts in a new direction and the cult just follows along

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:39 pm

Sucks to be Mike Pence.

First the country refuses to re-elect you, then your base decides to kill you for not re-electing yourself.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:44 pm

I feel bad for Pence up until I remember he enabled deadly diseases in two different jobs.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:58 pm

After 4 years my question is still "Who is Mike Pence?"

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:07 pm

Daehawk wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:58 pm After 4 years my question is still "Who is Mike Pence?"

He is the Postmaster General of the Senate.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:14 pm

Holman wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:10 pm Lin Wood is on a roll:

And here's where he says that Mike Pence will be executed by firing squad:

https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/134 ... 87840?s=20
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Firing squad is oddly specific. Has one been used since the 1800's?

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:17 pm

The last time a firing squad was used in the U.S. was in 2010, when Ronnie Lee Gardner was executed in Utah for the 1984 murder of an attorney during a failed courthouse escape.

Is Utah still a state?

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:23 pm

Jaymann wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:14 pm Firing squad is oddly specific. Has one been used since the 1800's?

Violent fantasies need lurid details.

But I've also seen QAnon lists of enemies and their punishments. I think the firing squad is important because they believe it connotes military rather than civilian justice. You know, because a righteous dictator like Trump needn't waste his time with court procedures.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:42 pm

Jaymann wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:17 pm
The last time a firing squad was used in the U.S. was in 2010, when Ronnie Lee Gardner was executed in Utah for the 1984 murder of an attorney during a failed courthouse escape.
Is Utah still a state?

I’m reasonably sure.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:19 pm

More crazy doings in StopTheSteal conspiracyland tonight. I've seen some things in the past couple of hours.

I'm not going to bother with links or quotes. Let me know if you think of any this is too crazy to believe:

--As we've already seen, Lin Wood has turned on Pence (and McConnell and John Roberts) as traitors to Trump's re-election, calling them out as Deep State communist pedophiles.

--The turn against Pence was almost certainly in response to Pence allowing the DOJ to issue a statement clarifying his role in opening and counting all the EC votes.

--Jenna Ellis (the younger blond lawyer hanging with Rudy and Sidney Powell as part of Trump's legal team) tweeted that she does not agree with everything Lin Wood is saying, so now conspiracyTwitter has declared *her* an enemy of Trump and America.

--There are also rumblings that Rudy is compromised and perhaps an enemy, presumably because he hasn't vocally backed Lin Wood or brought the sharpest accusations before various judges (where he would of course suffer much more than embarrassment).

--Meanwhile, it has been reported that Trump met with Pence today. Twitter is convinced that this means Pence has been fired, replaced, and either exiled, imprisoned, or executed (even though the VP is literally the one senior administration official who cannot be fired, as he was elected rather than appointed).

--They are convincing themselves that *everything* (i.e. overturn and, if necessary, martial law) will go down on January 6, and that it is very important for patriots to show up numerous and armed in D.C. in order to make sure that Congress understands the Will of the People.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:27 pm

Holman wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:19 pm --They are convincing themselves that *everything* (i.e. overturn and, if necessary, martial law) will go down on January 6, and that it is very important for patriots to show up numerous and armed in D.C. in order to make sure that Congress understands the Will of the People.

I'm sure Trump re-tweeting an 8 minute propaganda video a few hours ago indicating he'll see everyone on 1/6 in D.C. is also working as intended.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:39 pm

Gohmert’s derpcase to allow Pence to declare Trump king just got tossed

I’m sure this news will go over well in increasingly unhinged MAGAland

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:47 pm

Barr got out just in time to hoist the Jolly Roger before he could be executed.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:09 am

Holman wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:19 pm More crazy doings in StopTheSteal conspiracyland tonight. I've seen some things in the past couple of hours.

<SNIP>

--They are convincing themselves that *everything* (i.e. overturn and, if necessary, martial law) will go down on January 6, and that it is very important for patriots to show up numerous and armed in D.C. in order to make sure that Congress understands the Will of the People.

When January 6th goes a little wacky with EC fraud debate but in the end doesn't change anything we'll see them spin out some other outlandish story immediately to keep the grift going.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:56 am

Countdown to Biden inauguration as President:

18 DAYS

Agolf's veto of the defense bill gets REJECTED by Congress. Agolf responds by trying to bring back execution by firing squad, a staple among tin-pot dictators everywhere. YCMTSU.

Kurth · Post by **Kurth** » Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:36 pm

I think we should stop paying so much attention to the Lin Wood-following Parler/Q cult. Or maybe just keep tabs on them but do it with perspective. Like the Antifa boogeyman, social media makes these guys look much scarier and more like a serious threat than they really are.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:20 pm

America is done. Bald Eagle out front shoulda told ya.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JuddLegum/st ... 7269369856

It's possible that a MAJORITY of the Republican Congressional Delegation (House and Senate) will effectively endorse a coup whereby the election results in multiple states are thrown out and Trump is installed for a second term.

I get that this is ultimately political theater and it won’t succeed, but the fact that’s happening at all bodes very poorly for the future of the republic.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:27 pm

Ted Cruz is trying to get out ahead of Josh Hawley by circulating a petition in Congress that would delay EC vote certification for 10 days so that they can get to the bottom of “unprecedented allegations of voter fraud.”

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:40 pm

If only there was an actual federal consequence for inciting insurrection that someone could enforce here.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:01 pm

Chuck Fleischmann is supporting the EC thing. Nothing unexpected as he is a butt hole licker. My sister said when he worked the courts in Chattanooga he was the nicest guy and seemed normal. Now the money has made him mad.

I wonder if when McConnell kicks the bucket if they'll line his casket with money so it will feel like his pants?

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:52 pm

https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status ... 1184903176

The Sedition Caucus now has a charter roll call

11 Senate Republicans announce they will object on Jan. 6.

Sen. Cruz
Sen. Johnson
Sen. Lankford
Sen. Daines
Sen. Kennedy
Sen. Blackburn
Sen. Braun
Senators-Elect:
Lummis
Marshall
Hagerty
Tuberville

The Sedition Caucus now has a charter roll call

I'm not being hyperbolic here, but after 60 (?) failed lawsuits and now this, I genuinely don't understand how this isn't the beginning of civil war and/or some type of violent attempt to overthrow the government. Am I to believe after all that has been said and done since 11/3, the nation is somehow going to just magically go back to what was done before in every other Presidential election and this isn't going to be the new normal? That this is somehow just a random blip - an aberration that will quickly be forgotten?

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:20 pm

Note that Cornyn hasn't backed Cruz's play.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:26 pm

Frickin Hall of Shame. I hope GA votes these vermin back into the shit holes they crawled out of.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:00 pm

Daehawk wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:01 pmI wonder if when McConnell kicks the bucket if they'll line his casket with money so it will feel like his pants?

I'd prefer a check for phylacteries or horcruxes because we would have to be sure.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:00 pm

Heres the local story on it. Im not surprised too see Blackburn or Hagerty on that list. 2 fucking asshole morons from my state.

https://www.wrcbtv.com/story/43119898/g ... not-formed

Nearly a dozen Republican senators announced on Saturday that they would support an objection to the Electoral College votes that declared President-elect Joe Biden the winner if a commission is not appointed to audit the results.

Like a bunch of little babies that didn't get their way so they pitch a fit. I hope Biden and Harris and the Dems scorch their Earth. This is treason...hang'm

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:13 pm

Kurth wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:36 pm I think we should stop paying so much attention to the Lin Wood-following Parler/Q cult. Or maybe just keep tabs on them but do it with perspective. Like the Antifa boogeyman, social media makes these guys look much scarier and more like a serious threat than they really are.

I'm not so sure.

According to very recent NPR polling, 17% of Americans agree with the statement "A group of Satan-worshipping elites who run a child sex ring are trying to control our politics and media." Another 37% respond that they don't know. Only 47% reject the claim as false.

QAnon and Q-adjacent conspiracies are spreading like wildfire through right-wing communities, especially churches and online groups. It's as if they heard our joke that "reality has a liberal bias" and decided that that's the actual problem.

I believe it will be at least as big a problem in the Biden years as the Tea Party was under Obama, but the consequences will be culturally rather than just politically dangerous.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:18 pm

But where are we on lizard people?

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:19 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:52 pm
I'm not being hyperbolic here, but after 60 (?) failed lawsuits and now this, I genuinely don't understand how this isn't the beginning of civil war and/or some type of violent attempt to overthrow the government. Am I to believe after all that has been said and done since 11/3, the nation is somehow going to just magically go back to what was done before in every other Presidential election and this isn't going to be the new normal? That this is somehow just a random blip - an aberration that will quickly be forgotten?

If nothing else (and this is probably the best-case scenario), it's a transition to new style of scorched-earth politics where the strategy isn't just to thwart the Democrat's policy agenda but actually to cripple the country itself in the hopes of making the next four years a disaster Dems can't overcome.

I expect the GOP to partner all-but-openly with foreign enemies against the Biden-Harris administration.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:20 pm

hepcat wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:18 pm But where are we on lizard people?

FWIW, Lizard people aren't QAnon canon. The enemy is humans in the service of Satan.