Political affiliation has deeply shaped how people understand and respond to the pandemic. As noted in parallel research from Gallup and others, attitudes about COVID’s risks and willingness to engage in disease-suppression behaviors like social distancing are strongly related to politics, even more so than to local exposure to the virus or demographic factors that predict severe health consequences from the virus like age or pre-existing medical conditions.
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The Economics of Recovery Study contributes to this research by showing that the polarization of the pandemic goes beyond behavior and policy preferences. It is happening at the most basic level: the interpretation of facts. Republicans consistently underestimate risks, while Democrats consistently overestimate them.
It's an interesting read.
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We aren't doing anything this summer, but I do have a vacation planned for fall. Hopefully we're farther down the road on this by that point.
I can tell you that at that point, if we've got a significant portion of the country vaccinated, I'm vaccinated, my wife's vaccinated, and numbers are still looking good, I'm not sheltering in my house for another year. I'm going out and doing stuff (in a safe manner, but doing stuff).
Smoove_B wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:03 pm
Since this is making the rounds in my circles, I figured it would be good to share here. First, a child is not like your vaccinated grandma. Second, stop giving economists a megaphone to talk about COVID-19. This is a horrible, horrible message:
Children are not at high risk for COVID-19. We’ve known since early in the pandemic that they are much less likely to fall ill, especially seriously ill. Although scientists don’t quite understand why, kids seem to be naturally protected. As a result, you can think of your son or daughter as an already vaccinated grandparent.
But this right here - this is pandering to the anti-vax crowd:
The central goal of vaccination is preventing serious illness and death. From this standpoint, being a child is a really great vaccine. Your unvaccinated first grader appears to have about as much protection from serious illness as a vaccinated grandmother.
Being a child is not a really great vaccine, no. This is why we have an entire element of the CDC devoted to vaccine-preventable childhood diseases. I can understand the confusion because kids in the United States aren't suffering from them en masse anymore, but to simply declare that a child is magically protected from illnesses? No. Bad economist!
It's crazy. They're only considering risk of serious illness to the individual. Not risk of the individual to acquire and transmit the virus.
" Hey OP, listen to my advice alright." -Tha General "“I like taking the guns early...to go to court would have taken a long time. So you could do exactly what you’re saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second.” -President Donald Trump. "...To guard, protect, and maintain his liberty, the freedman should have the ballot; that the liberties of the American people were dependent upon the Ballot-box, the Jury-box, and the Cartridge-box, that without these no class of people could live and flourish in this country." - Frederick Douglass MYT
Lawbeefaroni wrote:It's crazy. They're only considering risk of serious illness to the individual. Not risk of the individual to acquire and transmit the virus.
Yeah, that's nuts. I'm far less concerned about my kids than I am them unwittingly passing it to a non-vaccinated adult. They are in school 5 days a week, no way I'm letting those little petri dishes run around willy-nilly.
In a major policy revision intended to encourage more schools to welcome children back to in-person instruction, federal health officials on Friday relaxed the six-foot distancing rule for elementary school students, saying they need only remain three feet apart in classrooms as long as everyone is wearing a mask.
The three-foot rule also now applies to students in middle schools and high schools, as long as community transmission is not high, officials said. When transmission is high, however, these students must be at least six feet apart, unless they are taught in cohorts, or small groups that are kept separate from others, and the cohorts are kept six feet apart.
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Throw in variables and uncertainty. That always helps.
" Hey OP, listen to my advice alright." -Tha General "“I like taking the guns early...to go to court would have taken a long time. So you could do exactly what you’re saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second.” -President Donald Trump. "...To guard, protect, and maintain his liberty, the freedman should have the ballot; that the liberties of the American people were dependent upon the Ballot-box, the Jury-box, and the Cartridge-box, that without these no class of people could live and flourish in this country." - Frederick Douglass MYT
Smoove_B wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:03 pm
Since this is making the rounds in my circles, I figured it would be good to share here. First, a child is not like your vaccinated grandma. Second, stop giving economists a megaphone to talk about COVID-19. This is a horrible, horrible message:
Children are not at high risk for COVID-19. We’ve known since early in the pandemic that they are much less likely to fall ill, especially seriously ill. Although scientists don’t quite understand why, kids seem to be naturally protected. As a result, you can think of your son or daughter as an already vaccinated grandparent.
But this right here - this is pandering to the anti-vax crowd:
The central goal of vaccination is preventing serious illness and death. From this standpoint, being a child is a really great vaccine. Your unvaccinated first grader appears to have about as much protection from serious illness as a vaccinated grandmother.
Being a child is not a really great vaccine, no. This is why we have an entire element of the CDC devoted to vaccine-preventable childhood diseases. I can understand the confusion because kids in the United States aren't suffering from them en masse anymore, but to simply declare that a child is magically protected from illnesses? No. Bad economist!
That article's headline was so stupid I just passed it by. Too bad they decided to print such crap.
COVID-19 has continued to spread across New Jersey at such a high rate that the Garden State now has an unwanted distinction — it leads the U.S. in new cases per capita over the past week.
Just in time for all kinds of opening up for businesses and schools.
...the state's rate of 293 new cases per 100,000 is more than double the national average of 113, according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Blackhawk wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:22 am
One of my oldest friends - 30 years or so now - developed symptoms the day before he was scheduled to be vaccinated, and he was careful about things.
That's brutal, and was one of my biggest fears. Now I'm (mildly) concerned about injection #2 (Pfizer) occurring two days before my first day at the new job. A nasty fever or general lethargy and head-swimminess would not make for a great first impression.
But that's all very mild compared to being careful for a year and then contracting the virus (if that's how it works out—I had the perfect symptoms for the virus during last Christmas which turned out to be a bad reaction to a new drug I was taking) right before the vax. Sorry, BH and best luck to your friend.
"Better to talk to people than communicate via tweet." — Elontra
No kidding. My first instinct when I got my appointment for my first shot (three weeks from now) was to lock myself in a bunker. A year of my son's idiotic school district, Michelle getting a job in a hospital, Indiana's general stupidity and I had still managed to avoid it. Seeing the light at the end of the tunnel makes me twice as paranoid. With the end in sight, now is not the time to relax. Now is the time to not screw it up.
Through the persistence of a friend I managed to get my first dose (Moderna) today through a Walmart that had cancellations and needed to find arms. Was not expecting to get poked today (or this month)!
Miami Beach Police fired pepper balls into crowds of partiers and arrested at least a dozen people as the city took extraordinary measures to crack down on spring breakers who officials have said are out of control.
Miami Beach Mayor Dan Gelber declared a state of emergency and set an 8 p.m. curfew Saturday, saying the crowds that have descended on the city recently are "more than we can handle."
"Too many are coming, really, without the intention of following the rules, and the result has been a level of chaos and disorder that is just something more than we can endure," Gelber told CNN's Ana Cabrera.
But why is it so crazy?
The attempted crackdown comes as Florida has thrown open its doors to tourists after a year of coronavirus lockdowns and restrictions around the country. Gov. Ron DeSantis has bragged that the state is an "oasis of freedom" during the pandemic -- and the stir-crazy are flocking to the state's restriction-free beaches and nightlife.
Oh right, Florida is experiencing the consequences of their own actions.
Blackhawk wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:14 am
No kidding. My first instinct when I got my appointment for my first shot (three weeks from now) was to lock myself in a bunker. A year of my son's idiotic school district, Michelle getting a job in a hospital, Indiana's general stupidity and I had still managed to avoid it. Seeing the light at the end of the tunnel makes me twice as paranoid. With the end in sight, now is not the time to relax. Now is the time to not screw it up.
Yeah we and other friends felt the same way. We did NOTHING after our first vaccination, we were terrified of failing at the finish line!!!
Smoove_B wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:14 am
I mean, who could have possibly seen this coming?
Miami Beach Police fired pepper balls into crowds of partiers and arrested at least a dozen people as the city took extraordinary measures to crack down on spring breakers who officials have said are out of control.
Miami Beach Mayor Dan Gelber declared a state of emergency and set an 8 p.m. curfew Saturday, saying the crowds that have descended on the city recently are "more than we can handle."
"Too many are coming, really, without the intention of following the rules, and the result has been a level of chaos and disorder that is just something more than we can endure," Gelber told CNN's Ana Cabrera.
But why is it so crazy?
The attempted crackdown comes as Florida has thrown open its doors to tourists after a year of coronavirus lockdowns and restrictions around the country. Gov. Ron DeSantis has bragged that the state is an "oasis of freedom" during the pandemic -- and the stir-crazy are flocking to the state's restriction-free beaches and nightlife.
Oh right, Florida is experiencing the consequences of their own actions.
Lorini wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:15 amI assume there'll be a big surge shortly?
That's what some believe, yes. We've plateaued at ~50,000 new cases a day for the last few weeks, despite hitting ~3 million vaccinations being provided yesterday (a new record). Numerous states opening up fully + Spring Break + Easter is going to make for an interesting April. Some that I follow think the highly contagious variants are the dominant strains spreading now (or will be soon enough) so these types of behaviors have the potential to kick things into a whole new level.
So 3 million vaxxed in 4 months. The US pop is 328 million. So this is going to take a while...not counting the ones who dont ever get one.
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Daehawk wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:05 pm
So 3 million vaxxed in 4 months. The US pop is 328 million. So this is going to take a while...not counting the ones who dont ever get one.
Just to clarify, we crossed ~100 million vaccinations on Friday (or Saturday); 3 million doses administered on one day nationwide was also achieved on Saturday.
Case numbers in Israel increased among those given an initial dose, they say, up to eight days after vaccination, and then declined.
“Surprisingly, the daily incidence of cases increased strongly after vaccination till about day eight – approximately doubling. We don’t know why there was this initial surge in infection risk but it may be related to people being less cautious about maintaining protective behaviours as soon as they have the injection,” said Hunter.
Smoove_B wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:07 pm
Just to clarify, we crossed ~100 million vaccinations on Friday (or Saturday); 3 million doses administered on one day nationwide was also achieved on Saturday.
And at 50+ with underling conditions still no avenue to get mine. Waiting for the pharmacy angle outside of the count and health care system to contact me. No such luck.
Same. Around here they went to 55. I lack 3 years.
Yeech ...never thought Id be this old.
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I guess Ray Butts has ate his last pancake. http://steamcommunity.com/id/daehawk
"Has high IQ. Refuses to apply it"
When in doubt, skewer it out...I don't know.
Definitely try your local WalMart (all of them) and ask to be added to the cancellation list. I'm still flabbergasted that I got mine, but it was apparently not a fluke (4 of us got it that day in my circle, and I've seen several others).
My ex got her first dose of Pfizer two weeks ago. She's scheduled for her second shot tomorrow. She gets a phone call after dinner. Her asstant's son has tested positive, and the assistant is showing symptoms. Linda goes home. I get a text from her half an hour later, the mom has tested positive for Covid-19.
Now, she can't get her second shot, and she has to get tested. If my ex tests positive, now I get to stay home and wait for symptoms.
Oddly, in the rush to push the schools open, nobody saw this coming?
Jaymann wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:17 pm
@CBSNews
Krispy Kreme will you give you a free doughnut every day this year — if you've been vaccinated.
Maybe this will put some doubters over the top - literally!
A Krispy Kreme doughnut every day? I see. So we prevent people with underlying conditions from getting covid while making them more vulnerable to things like diabetes, heart attacks, etc at the same time.
Anyone that actually goes for a free Krispy Kreme doughnut every single day probably already has enough lifestyle-related health issues that the doughnut itself wouldn't make much of a difference. ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
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That's only of you count sugars and compare a 2 ounce glazed donut to a 20 oz Coke.
Not calories (roughly 1.2 glazwd donut per coke)
Not saturated fat (infinite cokes per donut)
Not a Boston Creme or chocolate donut.
Donuts are surprisingly low in sugar but high in sat fat.
" Hey OP, listen to my advice alright." -Tha General "“I like taking the guns early...to go to court would have taken a long time. So you could do exactly what you’re saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second.” -President Donald Trump. "...To guard, protect, and maintain his liberty, the freedman should have the ballot; that the liberties of the American people were dependent upon the Ballot-box, the Jury-box, and the Cartridge-box, that without these no class of people could live and flourish in this country." - Frederick Douglass MYT
LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:52 pm
Donuts are surprisingly low in sugar but high in sat fat.
They generally don't have as many as you think. Equal to or less than a similar sized bagel. But that's still typically nearly 300 calories per bagel/doughnut in most typical cases, which is more calories than a 20 oz coke.
I don't tend to think of sugars but I am starting to as I get older. I think I'm headed toward the pre-diabetes level of fat and lethargic. I'm finding that if I eat something full of sugar too close to bed that I'm waking up with a feeling not too unlike a mild hangover, as well as the nausea of eating anything too close to bed. I try to keep the high sugar foods out of the house nowadays so I don't have nightime sugar binge but I don't always succeed. One Costco sale or a moment of weakness and Aldi can destroy me.
Zaxxon wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:15 pm
I can resolve this debate for you all--if you are routinely consuming either donuts or Coke/Pepsi, you are harming your body.
I used to drink 3 20 oz cokes a day every day (or more). I gave that up over a decade ago. I'd love to still that but nowadays a Coke is a treat. They say if you don't drink a sugary soda for six months it will taste too sweet and you won't even like it. They lie. The longer you go without a good sugary carbonated beverage the more it tastes like liquid gold when you do get one. The big difference is, rather than just consuming your pop one after another like water, you actually slow down and consciously love the fact that you are drinking it.
Since the Covid and probably since Christmas 2019, I have had one McDonald's Coke, 3 Taco Bell Pepsis, 2 CostCo Pepsis, 2 free Two liters of Cherry Pepsi with a carry out Pizza, and can of Coke with a Lee's lunch. I can remember each one (And that was actually more than I thought I had had) and they were all so very very good. No doughnuts in that time at all. I'm sure I had paczki in 2020 if they paczki day was before the bug out. I can't really remember life from the before times any more. I only know the prison of a life of work, video games, and TV.
I'm not throwing stones; I eat a solid quarter-dozen donuts whenever I have the opportunity. But I'm under no illusion that they nor sugary addiction-drinks are doing me any favors.
