The Politics of Covid 19, mask wearing and the vaccination process

[Blackhawk]

https://twitter.com/DavePuglisiTV/statu ... 1897050115

That's... nucking futs.


/edit - new page edit for clarity

[Smoove_B]

It really is. And it reinforces my belief that the federal government went all-in on vaccinations and thought we were largely out of the proverbial frying pan as of May of 2021. No more masks and certainly no more need to do testing on a large scale. It's pretty much unforgivable.

[stessier]

Wow, didn't see that one coming.

[Isgrimnur]

Worst game of Factorio ever.

[Octavious]

Meanwhile they are asking the counties to pass over information so that they can stop funding them if they try and put mask rules in. I can't imagine living in that f'n state.

[Blackhawk]

That's the one good thing about all of this: It creates and instant 'where not to live' filter. If I'm ever able to actually move, I'll just overlay a COVID response map with a voting map. It'll narrow it down in seconds.

[Octavious]

Florida was never on my list, but ya that's a solid plan.

[El Guapo]

Boston reimposed an indoor mask mandate today. Seems sensible.

Should help to address Boston University's "wear a mask if you feel like it" policy they'd put out for the Fall semester. WTF is happening at BU???

My alma mater (for law school)! I have no idea - maybe they have confused themselves with Baylor University.

[LawBeefaroni]

Wow, didn't see that one coming.

These been a global supply squeeze for several months. We've escaped it mostly in the US but now...

In most cases here in the United States, oxygen is procured at a facility, making it readily available. The liquid oxygen is then transported through a piping system or through cylinders but the Florida Hospital Association (FHA) says a lack of drivers is making that delivery process slower than anticipated.

We upgraded tanks to be able to store more earlier this year, so some saw this coming.

[Drazzil]

If I were Biden I'd mandate the vaccine under the penalty of cutting federal funding to states that don't completely. Fuck what the supreme court says, Those partisan roaches in black robes gave themselves the power to stick their noses into government. Presidents have blown off the Supremes before, I say we do it again. The system doesn't work if only one side plays by the rules. I think that if a modern president were to signal that they were going to disregard Madison vs. Marburry, first privately, then if necessary, publicly They might just be able to terrify them into shutting their partisan right wing traps and let the government govern.

Politico weighs in:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... sis-433573

A much much denser article arguing that the supreme court has multiple sources of legitimacy and that the supreme court faces challenges from becoming a much more political body or seen as such.

https://harvardlawreview.org/2019/06/th ... y-dilemma/

[Smoove_B]

Taking oxygen away from a water treatment plant to try and address people from dying of communicable disease is...something.

Is the next plan to raid food processing facilities to get salt for saline bags to assist people next month that are dying from waterborne illness associated dehydration?

[Blackhawk]

If I were Biden I'd mandate the vaccine under the penalty of cutting federal funding to states that don't completely. Fuck what the supreme court says, Those partisan roaches in black robes gave themselves the power to stick their noses into government.

So you're saying that Biden should overthrow the government.

[LawBeefaroni]

Taking oxygen away from a water treatment plant to try and address people from dying of communicable disease is...something.

Is the next plan to raid food processing facilities to get salt for saline bags to assist people next month that are dying from waterborne illness associated dehydration?

As long as I can still wash my car twice a week and water my lawn and have a swimming pool...

[Max Peck]

BREAKING: For the 2nd straight day, Tennessee sets a stunning new daily record for #COVID19 cases among school-age children (ages 5-18).
1,850 in today's report, up from 1,495 the day before. Previous high of 1,478 was on Dec. 15th.

... I mean from 355 to 1850 in one day? That has to be partially testing volume, no?

It didn't go from 355 to 1850 in one day, it went up by 355 in one day (from 1495 to 1850).

[LawBeefaroni]

BREAKING: For the 2nd straight day, Tennessee sets a stunning new daily record for #COVID19 cases among school-age children (ages 5-18).
1,850 in today's report, up from 1,495 the day before. Previous high of 1,478 was on Dec. 15th.

... I mean from 355 to 1850 in one day? That has to be partially testing volume, no?

It didn't go from 355 to 1850 in one day, it went up by 355 in one day (from 1495 to 1850).

Ah, I missed "from". Read "up 1495" rather than "up from 1495".

That makes more sense.

[gbasden]

That's the one good thing about all of this: It creates and instant 'where not to live' filter. If I'm ever able to actually move, I'll just overlay a COVID response map with a voting map. It'll narrow it down in seconds.

People mocked me for saying I wouldn't live in a MAGA state. This validates every reason I have to stay in a safely Blue area.

[Remus West]

That's the one good thing about all of this: It creates and instant 'where not to live' filter. If I'm ever able to actually move, I'll just overlay a COVID response map with a voting map. It'll narrow it down in seconds.

People mocked me for saying I wouldn't live in a MAGA state. This validates every reason I have to stay in a safely Blue area.

Is CA still safely Blue? Hows the recall looking (serious question as I haven't been following closely - too stressful).

[gbasden]

That's the one good thing about all of this: It creates and instant 'where not to live' filter. If I'm ever able to actually move, I'll just overlay a COVID response map with a voting map. It'll narrow it down in seconds.

People mocked me for saying I wouldn't live in a MAGA state. This validates every reason I have to stay in a safely Blue area.

Is CA still safely Blue? Hows the recall looking (serious question as I haven't been following closely - too stressful).

CA is absolutely safely blue, except that every so often someone pushes through a recall and then it's anybody's guess. If an R wins because of apathy, they will most likely be booted with alacrity at the next election. But absolutely point taken.

[Anonymous Bosch]

That's the one good thing about all of this: It creates and instant 'where not to live' filter. If I'm ever able to actually move, I'll just overlay a COVID response map with a voting map. It'll narrow it down in seconds.

People mocked me for saying I wouldn't live in a MAGA state. This validates every reason I have to stay in a safely Blue area.

Is CA still safely Blue? Hows the recall looking (serious question as I haven't been following closely - too stressful).

In terms of the governmental structure of the state of CA, probably. But I suspect the DNC is shitting bricks over Newsom potentially being replaced by an (R). Because realistically, Sen. Dianne Feinstein is the better part of 90 years old, making her the eldest member of a seriously decrepit U.S. Senate. And guess who selects her replacement if/when she's no longer capable of fulfilling her duties? If Feinstein is replaced by an (R), albeit temporarily, there goes the (D) majority in the Senate…

[Drazzil]

If I were Biden I'd mandate the vaccine under the penalty of cutting federal funding to states that don't completely. Fuck what the supreme court says, Those partisan roaches in black robes gave themselves the power to stick their noses into government.

So you're saying that Biden should overthrow the government.

Yeah. By this point I'll up and say it. If the Dem's don't do it now, the R's will just do it later. You can't have a working Democracy with half of America batshit insane vaccine conspiracy, Trumpist, q anon subscribing, anti democracy fuckwads who want to kill and crush PoC's for daring to be the majority.

The choice is no longer, democracy, or not democracy. The choice is now one stripe of dictatorship or the other. The other side corrupted the political system as it is too far to save it. Personally, i vastly prefer my stripe, and you or anyone else sure as hell won't be embarrassing me over it. Anyone who disagrees with me is just blinkered or blind, or will attack me just because they don't want it to be true.

[Smoove_B]

Politics are why this is happening, so I'll post it here. JFC already.

https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/statu ... 0126855172

A lot of Mississippians are trying to treat COVID with cow deworming meds.

MSDH: "At least 70% of the recent calls (to poison control) have been related to ingestion of livestock or animal formulations of ivermectin purchased at livestock supply centers."

Talk to your doctor. Talk to a public health professional. Nah, I'll just freebase this cow deworming agent, thanks.

[LordMortis]

I swear I read weeks (or maybe months) ago they were pulling Ivermectin from the shelves to keep people from ignorantly taking it. How is that still a thing?

[Isgrimnur]

I'll just freebase this cow deworming agent, thanks.

[Smoove_B]

I swear I read weeks (or maybe months) ago they were pulling Ivermectin from the shelves to keep people from ignorantly taking it. How is that still a thing?

Pull product from the shelves that people will pay money for? This is AMERICA.

If you go through that Tweet thread above, someone posted a picture of one of their local stores posting info on FB about how they have it in stock.

[Sudy]

I'll just freebase this cow deworming agent, thanks.

That line was delivered with such fantastic emotion.

[LawBeefaroni]

51 Illinois schools in non compliance with mask mandate already.

“A [non-complying] district would first have its recognition status changed to ‘On Probation’ and would be asked to submit a corrective action plan. Failure to address the deficiencies would lead to nonrecognition, meaning total loss of access to state funding and loss of the school’s ability to engage in any Illinois High School Association and Illinois Elementary School Association athletic competitions,” she continued.

[Unagi]

If I were Biden I'd mandate the vaccine under the penalty of cutting federal funding to states that don't completely. Fuck what the supreme court says, Those partisan roaches in black robes gave themselves the power to stick their noses into government.

So you're saying that Biden should overthrow the government.

Yeah. By this point I'll up and say it. If the Dem's don't do it now, the R's will just do it later. You can't have a working Democracy with half of America batshit insane vaccine conspiracy, Trumpist, q anon subscribing, anti democracy fuckwads who want to kill and crush PoC's for daring to be the majority.

The choice is no longer, democracy, or not democracy. The choice is now one stripe of dictatorship or the other. The other side corrupted the political system as it is too far to save it. Personally, i vastly prefer my stripe, and you or anyone else sure as hell won't be embarrassing me over it. Anyone who disagrees with me is just blinkered or blind, or will attack me just because they don't want it to be true.

Wasn’t your ‘stripe’ Trump just a few years ago?
Honestly, why you think you are such a great ‘Seer’ of how things are escapes me. Where do you reach down and find the courage to tell us how it really is?

I’ll tell you the common thread that hasn’t left you, you want it all destroyed, everything. You couldn’t stomach HRC, because she wanted to build, and Trump wanted to tear it down. Irresistible! The choice was easy.

I honestly expect Trump to appeal to you again in the future. He just needs to find the right lyrics, cause he’s already playing your tune.

[Drazzil]

If I were Biden I'd mandate the vaccine under the penalty of cutting federal funding to states that don't completely. Fuck what the supreme court says, Those partisan roaches in black robes gave themselves the power to stick their noses into government.

So you're saying that Biden should overthrow the government.

Yeah. By this point I'll up and say it. If the Dem's don't do it now, the R's will just do it later. You can't have a working Democracy with half of America batshit insane vaccine conspiracy, Trumpist, q anon subscribing, anti democracy fuckwads who want to kill and crush PoC's for daring to be the majority.

The choice is no longer, democracy, or not democracy. The choice is now one stripe of dictatorship or the other. The other side corrupted the political system as it is too far to save it. Personally, i vastly prefer my stripe, and you or anyone else sure as hell won't be embarrassing me over it. Anyone who disagrees with me is just blinkered or blind, or will attack me just because they don't want it to be true.

Wasn’t your ‘stripe’ Trump just a few years ago?
Honestly, why you think you are such a great ‘Seer’ of how things are escapes me. Where do you reach down and find the courage to tell us how it really is?

I’ll tell you the common thread that hasn’t left you, you want it all destroyed, everything. You couldn’t stomach HRC, because she wanted to build, and Trump wanted to tear it down. Irresistible! The choice was easy.

I honestly expect Trump to appeal to you again in the future. He just needs to find the right lyrics, cause he’s already playing your tune.

I couldn't stomach HRC because she wanted to write off a ton of people, including me when she said "nothing would change" and that if " a voter was looking for change, that she was not their candidate" She said these things, or something close to it. I just followed her advice.

And no. I won't be voting for trump, or any republican in the future. It's up to the Democrats to win my vote though. And they aren't doing a good job of convincing me NOT to go third party.

Oh yeah, and even if I *were* a "tear it all down" voter. I fail to see how I could be blamed. It only takes a few decades for most people to turn into a crab in a bucket type. If the people who are comfortable with the current system writing off large swaths of population (the working class voters who either don't have a college education, or were never given a chance to use it due to govt policies) get angry and start trying to throw wrenches into the system. It's human nature, for people to see no hope in the future vote for the type of politicians that would make most people weep.

[Unagi]

So then you will be compelled, by your human nature, to vote GOP. IMO.


Not that I don’t understand the frustration with the (D) , but your forecasted reaction will be how the (R) takes back the helm.

[Drazzil]

So then you will be compelled, by your human nature, to vote GOP. IMO.


Not that I don’t understand the frustration with the (D) , but your forecasted reaction will be how the (R) takes back the helm.

Wheeeelllllp. Not me. I wont vote Trump again as his policies basically killed my mother. That said, I won't pull the lever for a group or party of politicians that won't do anything for me or my class interests. I'm not invested. I'm not playing the least of two evils game anymore. I refuse to cast my vote to feather the nests of those still invested.

Biden and the Democratic party have repeatedly shown that they care very little about the working class. The Democratic party does not bring the goods, and IMO, scaremongering about the other side (horrible as they may be) will do little to turn out the base this next time. It's going to be extremely hard to turn out the votes and fight apathy when it becomes clearer and clearer that they will not benefit.

[gilraen]

Biden and the Democratic party have repeatedly shown that they care very little about the working class.

Because lifting 4 million children out of poverty, extending unemployment benefits, expanding EIT credit, etc. etc. is just...what? A typo?

[malchior]

https://twitter.com/Cleavon_MD/status/1 ... 9340934151

https://twitter.com/StopTheCriminal/sta ... 8493767682

[Drazzil]

https://twitter.com/Cleavon_MD/status/1 ... 9340934151

https://twitter.com/StopTheCriminal/sta ... 8493767682

Good. A COVID disinformation spreader is dead. 1 down, 50 million to go. Props to his family for telling people to get vaccinated.

[Kraken]

I won't pull the lever for a group or party of politicians that won't do anything for me or my class interests.

Set me straight if I'm wrong, but doesn't the government pay for your housing, food, and health care?

[Drazzil]

I won't pull the lever for a group or party of politicians that won't do anything for me or my class interests.

Set me straight if I'm wrong, but doesn't the government pay for your housing, food, and health care?

Maaaaaaybe I should rethink my positions on this one small matter. You got me. Edit for: Although I do despise being warehoused with no chance to get employment that actually *uses* my skills.

[Unagi]

[Kraken]

I won't pull the lever for a group or party of politicians that won't do anything for me or my class interests.

Set me straight if I'm wrong, but doesn't the government pay for your housing, food, and health care?

Maaaaaaybe I should rethink my positions on this one small matter. You got me. Edit for: Although I do despise being warehoused with no chance to get employment that actually *uses* my skills.

Think about which party is responsible for that, and consider voting to keep what you have, if not in gratitude. You haven't worked or paid income taxes in a long time, and yet you live securely enough. Who makes that possible?

I don't want to derail any further so I'll skip answering your edit. Let's go back to the politics of covid.

[Zarathud]

I won't pull the lever for a group or party of politicians that won't do anything for me or my class interests.

Set me straight if I'm wrong, but doesn't the government pay for your housing, food, and health care?

This is the part that frustrates me. Drazzil doesn’t realize that the status quo is better for him than the Republican alternative.

No one owes you a job. Get the skills you don’t have. Find a niche for your current skills. Or start your own business. You are angry that nothing changes, but what do YOU do for YOURSELF to get ahead?

You’re no longer trapped by taking care of your mother. There are ways out that don’t depend on the government.

[Daehawk]

So Valentine finally kicked the bucket huh? He himself said that him getting covid and it killing him was less than a half a percent chance. Must not have been covid Why, just ask his listeners.

[AWS260]

https://twitter.com/US_FDA/status/1429050070243192839