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[hepcat]

Back on topic:

There's a show coming March 1st that I want to watch just because it sounds so insane. It looks like a low, low budget superhero film...but...well....just read and watch.

Netflix’s brand new superhero series The Guardians of Justice from Adi Shankar is set to arrive on the streaming platform globally on March 1st, 2022 with seven episodes.

The Guardians of Justice will be a mish-mash of animation formats. It’ll feature stop-motion, hybrid live-action, pixel art, and other mediums. Adi has spoken about there being 8 types of 2D animation featured in the series. The project itself has been in development in some form for over six years.

It's from one of the minds behind the surprisingly entertaining Castlevania anime.

[Daehawk]

The only time in my life I listened to critics was in the 80s and watching At the Movies with Siskel & Ebert. I watched it for their egos and the movie previews then even though and never paid attention to their thumbs. Movies are to each their own. I dont need someone telling me if a movie is bad or good. Ill watch it if I damn well want to.

[Isgrimnur]

Galacron looking like the lovechild of Galactus and Krang.

[Rumpy]

I tend to view critic reviews through the prism of "Is the movie *technically* good?" Professional critics are looking at direction, production value, pacing, editing, performances, writing, etc. in a way that the average Joe on the street may not. I look at audience reviews through the prism of "Was I entertained?" with little analysis beyond that.

I tend to trust my own judgement over critics. If I enjoy something, that's ultimately more important. There have been too many times where a critic's viewpoint clashes with that of the popular opinion to the point that they feel disconnected from what the average audience may enjoy.

[EvilHomer3k]

The audience review on RT kind of proves my point about relying solely on user reviews. They get "review bombed" quite often. But the critic review rating helps to offset that.

I still rely more on RT for a more realistic view of how good a film is than I do IMDB. I like having access to both a general audience take on a film, and a professional critic aggregate.

Again you pick a movie that has higher ratings on IMDB by they audience than it does on RT. Which site is getting rating bombed again?

Let me come at this from a different angle: positive (or negative) reviews generally indicate the quality of a movie. AGAIN with the massive caveat regarding your opinion of pro reviews in general.

Not sure where the disconnect is, here.

I'm saying RT is an indicator of how many people say a movie is good but not how good a movie is. I'm saying it's almost useless when comparing two shows and saying one is better than the other. It's a fine tool for deciding if a movie is worth watching. It's a bad tool for saying x movie is better than y.

Anyway, this has gotten away from my intent which was to promote Godless. It really is a great show.

[ImLawBoy]

I'm saying RT is an indicator of how many people say a movie is good but not how good a movie is. I'm saying it's almost useless when comparing two shows and saying one is better than the other. It's a fine tool for deciding if a movie is worth watching. It's a bad tool for saying x movie is better than y.

Compounded with this is the reality that when a person says one show is better than another, we're talking about subjective preferences. Using an aggregated rating to claim that someone's preference is wrong seems odd to me.

[hepcat]

The audience review on RT kind of proves my point about relying solely on user reviews. They get "review bombed" quite often. But the critic review rating helps to offset that.

I still rely more on RT for a more realistic view of how good a film is than I do IMDB. I like having access to both a general audience take on a film, and a professional critic aggregate.

Again you pick a movie that has higher ratings on IMDB by they audience than it does on RT. Which site is getting rating bombed again?

Both are susceptible to that issue. But RT offsets that by also including professional critics. That’s the point I and others are making that I think you’re still missing.

I'm saying RT is an indicator of how many people say a movie is good but not how good a movie is. I'm saying it's almost useless when comparing two shows and saying one is better than the other. It's a fine tool for deciding if a movie is worth watching. It's a bad tool for saying x movie is better than y.

Compounded with this is the reality that when a person says one show is better than another, we're talking about subjective preferences. Using an aggregated rating to claim that someone's preference is wrong seems odd to me.

IMDB uses an aggregate of all participants scores.

What are IMDb ratings? IMDb registered users can cast a vote (from 1 to 10) on every released title in the database. Individual votes are then aggregated and summarized as a single IMDb rating, visible on the title's main page.

Also, everyone uses ratings to try and prove someone wrong. This is the internet, man. An IMDB rating was used initially to tell me that Godless was much better than THTF. That’s what started this whole discussion.

[EvilHomer3k]

I feel I'm pulling this off topic so I'm going to move on except to say that the last episode of Godless is fucking fantastic.

[hepcat]

I love Godless as well, don’t get me wrong. I’m a sucker for a good western. Speaking of which, if you get the chance to see Old Henry, do so immediately. Fantastic western.

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Rotten Tomato gives it a 94/91.

[Max Peck]

Daredevil and the other Marvel shows are leaving Netflix next month

Marvel’s live-action superhero series are leaving Netflix starting on Feb. 28, Polygon has confirmed. The six shows that originally premiered on Netflix — Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, The Punisher, Iron Fist, and The Defenders — now come with an advisory in the top-left corner that they will soon be off of the streaming service.

Sources confirmed to Polygon that the rights to the six series have reverted to Disney, though it’s unclear if the shows will appear on Disney Plus, Hulu, or another venue. Polygon has reached out to Disney representatives for clarification and comment, but the company did not immediately reply.

Daredevil’s Matt Murdock (Charlie Cox) recently crossed over from Netflix’s small-stakes version of the Marvel Universe into the larger MCU in Spider-Man: No Way Home. Around the same time, Daredevil’s Kingpin also jumped into the MCU with his appearance in the final episodes of Hawkeye. While those are the only time any of these characters have appeared in a Marvel movie — or in a Disney Plus series — the cross-overs were enough to rocket Daredevil to the Netflix Top 10, despite the fact that its last season was 2018.

While there is, so far, no official announcement about these series leaving Netflix, it isn’t entirely surprising. When Disney was preparing to launch Disney Plus, then-CEO Bob Iger said the company would bring its first-party properties and shows to the service. With Marvel Studios nodding to and further canonizing the Netflix series, it makes sense that the company would want them under one of its various umbrellas for the foreseeable future.

Hopefully the shows are simply moving over to Disney+.

[Zenn7]

Daredevil and the other Marvel shows are leaving Netflix next month

Marvel’s live-action superhero series are leaving Netflix starting on Feb. 28, Polygon has confirmed. The six shows that originally premiered on Netflix — Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, The Punisher, Iron Fist, and The Defenders — now come with an advisory in the top-left corner that they will soon be off of the streaming service.

Sources confirmed to Polygon that the rights to the six series have reverted to Disney, though it’s unclear if the shows will appear on Disney Plus, Hulu, or another venue. Polygon has reached out to Disney representatives for clarification and comment, but the company did not immediately reply.

Daredevil’s Matt Murdock (Charlie Cox) recently crossed over from Netflix’s small-stakes version of the Marvel Universe into the larger MCU in Spider-Man: No Way Home. Around the same time, Daredevil’s Kingpin also jumped into the MCU with his appearance in the final episodes of Hawkeye. While those are the only time any of these characters have appeared in a Marvel movie — or in a Disney Plus series — the cross-overs were enough to rocket Daredevil to the Netflix Top 10, despite the fact that its last season was 2018.

While there is, so far, no official announcement about these series leaving Netflix, it isn’t entirely surprising. When Disney was preparing to launch Disney Plus, then-CEO Bob Iger said the company would bring its first-party properties and shows to the service. With Marvel Studios nodding to and further canonizing the Netflix series, it makes sense that the company would want them under one of its various umbrellas for the foreseeable future.

Hopefully the shows are simply moving over to Disney+.

Sure hope they're just moving to Disney+!
I watched season 1 of Daredevil and Luke Cage, about 3/4 through season 1 of Jessica Jones. Only got Netflix about 4-6 months ago, had to watch something else first and then started these. I don't get to watch very often (usually watch something w/ my wife, she's not into any of these, or she watches TV and I play on 'puter).

At my 1-2 episodes a week average, I'm going to have to push it to finish JJ season 1 before they move!

[Rumpy]

Really surprises me to see movies like Ironman still on Netflix.

[Max Peck]

I would guess that there are existing contracts that Disney has to abide by until they run their course.

[Rumpy]

Sure, but you would think that everyone would understand that once Disney debuted Disney+, it'd be removed since those contracts came about before Disney started their own streaming service.

[McNutt]

I love Godless as well, don’t get me wrong. I’m a sucker for a good western. Speaking of which, if you get the chance to see Old Henry, do so immediately. Fantastic western.

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Rotten Tomato gives it a 94/91.

Is Old Henry streaming anywhere, or just for rent?

[hepcat]

Looks like Showtime has it. Grab a free trial and watch it. You’ll recognize the lead actor Tim Blake Nelson immediately. He’s frequently used by the Coen brothers and a lot of other great directors as a character actor. In Old Henry he shows what he can do as a non traditional leading man…and he’s just as excellent doing so as he is as a supporting character.

[Blackhawk]

I'm now three films episodes into Godless, and I'm enjoying it quite a bit.

[hepcat]

I love Jean-Pierre Jeunet. The City of Lost Children is one of my favorite films. But man, his latest movie Big Bug, which just showed up on Netflix, was painful to watch.

[Isgrimnur]

Against the Ice

[Ralph-Wiggum]

I watched all six episodes of Murderville. It has a very gimmicky premise: Will Arnett is a detective and each week he is partnered with a celebrity to solve a murder mystery. But the celebrity doesn't know the script and is the one that has to figure out who did it. As you might expect, the episodes vary pretty widely in quality based on the guest. IMO, the only really good one was the episode with Kumail Nanjiani. The rest were mediocre to bad. And the mysteries were generally pretty basic; once you know the formula it's not hard to figure out who did it. Overall, I give it 4 out of 8 tentacles.

[hepcat]

I loathe improv as there are only about a half dozen people on Earth who can do it successfully. But I love Nanjiani. So I think I'll watch just his episode now.

[Rumpy]

I was looking forward to that, so that's a shame. I guess it shows how fallible comedy can be, and that there's a reason why timing's key in a lot of it.

[Isgrimnur]

Tyler Perry's A Madea Homecoming

[Isgrimnur]

Texas Chainsaw Massacre

[Sudy]

The Harder They Fall is definitely a good one. It's fresh, bloody, and stylish. Sometimes I think it struggles between picking a "small story" tone and more of an epic one. But ultimately it's moving, and I found the ending very well acted.

Speaking of Godless, I think Harder They Fall might have done really well as a limited series. There are characters here who deserve broader backstories.

As for a direct comparison to Godless, I don't see why it's necessary. I enjoyed them both. They're both neo and revisionist westerns, but they're different kinds, and overall different kinds of productions.

[Sudy]

I tend to view critic reviews through the prism of "Is the movie *technically* good?" Professional critics are looking at direction, production value, pacing, editing, performances, writing, etc. in a way that the average Joe on the street may not. I look at audience reviews through the prism of "Was I entertained?" with little analysis beyond that.

I tend to trust my own judgement over critics. If I enjoy something, that's ultimately more important. There have been too many times where a critic's viewpoint clashes with that of the popular opinion to the point that they feel disconnected from what the average audience may enjoy.

But how do you know before you've seen the production in question?

That's not to say I haven't seen rotten films (e.g. In Time) I actually really liked, but when I'm deciding what to do with my $15 and/or two hours, I'm much more likely to pick the 88% film over the 45% one. I either avoid or don't trust trailers since they're often misleading and/or give away the plot. Though sure, there are clues as to whether I'll like something or not.

Personally I ignore audience reviews entirely. Occasionally I'll think twice if the critic percentage is average and the audience one is off the charts.

Before RT, I guess I used Metacritic? But that was never a satisfying experience (though was still an "OK" overall indicator). In the early 2000s I guess I still trusted IMDB scores remotely as well, but I haven't looked at one for ages.

[Pyperkub]

I started watching The Woman Across the Street from the Girl in the Window (did I get the title right?) mostly because of Kristen Bell, but I'm bouncing a bit off of the 'satire' for her character - it's a bit too painful in pandemic time.

[coopasonic]

I started watching The Woman Across the Street from the Girl in the Window (did I get the title right?)

believe you are missing a "in the house" in there somewhere.

[Pyperkub]

I started watching The Woman Across the Street from the Girl in the Window (did I get the title right?)

believe you are missing a "in the house" in there somewhere.

I figured as much! (but you knew the show I was talking about...)

[Rumpy]

The Harder They Fall is definitely a good one. It's fresh, bloody, and stylish. Sometimes I think it struggles between picking a "small story" tone and more of an epic one. But ultimately it's moving, and I found the ending very well acted.

Speaking of Godless, I think Harder They Fall might have done really well as a limited series. There are characters here who deserve broader backstories.

As for a direct comparison to Godless, I don't see why it's necessary. I enjoyed them both. They're both neo and revisionist westerns, but they're different kinds, and overall different kinds of productions.

I think they're ultimately two very different kinds of Western. Godless is Western with a focus on story, and of course, with multiple episodes, it's able to flesh that out.

I tend to view critic reviews through the prism of "Is the movie *technically* good?" Professional critics are looking at direction, production value, pacing, editing, performances, writing, etc. in a way that the average Joe on the street may not. I look at audience reviews through the prism of "Was I entertained?" with little analysis beyond that.

I tend to trust my own judgement over critics. If I enjoy something, that's ultimately more important. There have been too many times where a critic's viewpoint clashes with that of the popular opinion to the point that they feel disconnected from what the average audience may enjoy.

But how do you know before you've seen the production in question?

That's not to say I haven't seen rotten films (e.g. In Time) I actually really liked, but when I'm deciding what to do with my $15 and/or two hours, I'm much more likely to pick the 88% film over the 45% one. I either avoid or don't trust trailers since they're often misleading and/or give away the plot. Though sure, there are clues as to whether I'll like something or not.

Personally I ignore audience reviews entirely. Occasionally I'll think twice if the critic percentage is average and the audience one is off the charts.

Before RT, I guess I used Metacritic? But that was never a satisfying experience (though was still an "OK" overall indicator). In the early 2000s I guess I still trusted IMDB scores remotely as well, but I haven't looked at one for ages.

Well, I tend to not really have a formed opinion on things until I've seen them. It solves most problems

I've tended to enjoy things that have had wildly divergent opinions by critics when I go looking after the fact.

[hepcat]

The Harder They Fall is definitely a good one. It's fresh, bloody, and stylish.

I had put off watching it as I thought it was just going to be nothing but modern music and people talking like they were living in 2022. But after reading some good reviews that mentioned it was actually really a traditional western, I took the plunge. It still has some modern day sensibilities, but most of it is just a good, old fashioned western revenge tale.

I started watching The Woman Across the Street from the Girl in the Window (did I get the title right?) mostly because of Kristen Bell, but I'm bouncing a bit off of the 'satire' for her character - it's a bit too painful in pandemic time.

It’s not great, but if you stick around to the last episode, it’s got some pretty funny scenes. They pretty much give up on any attempt at toning it down and it just goes flat out absurd. I chuckled a few times.

True story: a woman I work with who often shares her Netflix recommendations with me (which I normally ignore) walked into the office kitchen on Monday morning and told me how she was hooked on this show. When I mentioned that I didn’t realize at first it was a comedy, she gave me this blank look and told me it wasn’t a comedy like I was crazy. When I started reminding her of all the absurdly comic things that happened in the show, it finally dawned on her that she wasn’t watching a real murder mystery.

That was an awkward few minutes.

[Madmarcus]

The show itself is fairly average but In from the Cold makes me want to see more of Cillian O'Sullivan and Stasya Miloslavakaya.

[Blackhawk]

I'm much more likely to pick the 88% film over the 45% one.

And yet I'd see an imaginative genre film with a 45% rating before a film about stock brokers talking over coffee that scored 88%.

[hepcat]

I'm much more likely to pick the 88% film over the 45% one.

And yet I'd see an imaginative genre film with a 45% rating before a film about stock brokers talking over coffee that scored 88%.

If it's a good imaginative genre film, it will have a better rating. But to me, there are too many films that claim to be imaginative, but then they turn out to be crap because the story sucks or something.

I'm also much more likely to pick the 88 percent film over the 44 percent one. I've been burned by too many bad movies not to. Like what you like, that's fine. But I'm like YK in that I tend to look on reviews with a little less cynicism and distrust. The Underworld series has its fans, but I consider those films to be some of the shittiest pieces of dreck ever made...and the reviews for them usually suck. So for me, reviews work.

That's not to say that I don't like movies that reviewers hate (I've said it before, but I will sit and watch Soldier and/or Con Air all the way through like a mindless idiot if I see them on television), but I do so fully aware that I like them in spite of them being generally bad films. Sometimes junk food tastes good. But it's called junk food for a reason.

[Blackhawk]

The point was that I would knowingly choose a really bad movie from a genre that I enjoy before a really good film from one that doesn't appeal to me.

[hepcat]

Life’s too short to sit through every Underworld or Lamageddon out there. If I see a 13 percent rating on a science fiction or horror film, I’ll pass. That’s my point.

What I’m responding to is what I perceived as a notion that reviews have no value (they absolutely do) or that they’re all written by elitists who only give positive reviews to obscure intellectual art house films.

[EvilHomer3k]

True story: a woman I work with who often shares her Netflix recommendations with me (which I normally ignore) walked into the office kitchen on Monday morning and told me how she was hooked on this show. When I mentioned that I didn’t realize at first it was a comedy, she gave me this blank look and told me it wasn’t a comedy like I was crazy. When I started reminding her of all the absurdly comic things that happened in the show, it finally dawned on her that she wasn’t watching a real murder mystery.

That was an awkward few minutes.

That's actually somewhat common. Many people don't realize it's a spoof movie until they are well into it. The first few episodes are played fairly straight.

[hepcat]

...she had finished it.

[Jaymann]

Has anyone else watched Black Summer? I am not a big fan of the zombie genre, but I like the personal story vignette approach. Plus it is fairly realistic. For example: when an overweight guy spots Chekhov's Axe mounted on the wall. He grabs it and waits for a zombie. But instead of turning into Bruce Campbell, the axe gets knocked from his hands and he has to run.

[Smoove_B]

Yes, we had a whole thread. It would be best (IMHO) if you were a fan of SyFy's Z Nation as this show is technically a prequel.