Political Randomness

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:44 pm

I remember when I was in Boy Scouts (as a kid, let's make that clear) they brought in a guest speaker to a sleep in at a church we had with a bunch of other troops. He spoke about drugs. Specifically, he talked about marijuana. And we got the story about the babysitter who was so hopped up on doobies that she ended up putting the baby in the oven.

At the time, I thought this was a real story so I was vehemently against smoking the chronic as I a) I didn't think I'd enjoy roasted baby and b)was worried I wouldn't know what to serve with roasted baby.

To this day, I still can't believe they told us that story. It's just ludicrous.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:53 pm

Pfft, obviously fava beans and a nice Chianti.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Tue Sep 27, 2022 3:01 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:10 pm I can't possibly speak for the masses, but my boomer parents are very strongly against legalized marijuana. It stresses them out to a degree I did not think possible. When asked, they say they think people will get "all potted up on weed" and drive around, causing more car accidents. Because as we know, no one is driving around now under the influence of drugs (or alcohol).

There's definitely seems to be a cultural / generational divide on Jazz Cabbage and I'm guessing the Fox News demographic is squarely in the group that feels legalizing Devil's Lettuce will only usher in the fall of America that much faster.

My mom love edibles and swears by them for her arthritis pain. At this point she has probably consumed more THC post-70 than I have my whole life. She's all for legalization.

There's still a lot of racism baked into the anti-marijuana rhetoric. It's a pretty good bet that anyone who still thinks it's acceptable to use the term "colored" will also be anti-MJ.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Tue Sep 27, 2022 3:27 pm

I've been watching Dragnet as a kind of historical culture investigation. Given how popular the show was, I thought it would give a good view on the popular ideas of the time. It's pretty easy to see the genesis of many of our parents' thoughts in those episodes.

This show had me going for a minute as the Hippies accurately predicted the future and I thought the episode was making the case for that future. Narrator: It was not. Spoiler: Show ends with a stoned wife forgetting the baby in the tub and the baby drowning.

Then there is this soliloquy about the comparisons of Alcohol/MJ/LSD

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:13 pm

In Dragnet they proposed that LSD is worse than Heroin? Wow. That's a first for me.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:28 pm

hepcat wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:44 pm I remember when I was in Boy Scouts (as a kid, let's make that clear) they brought in a guest speaker to a sleep in at a church we had with a bunch of other troops. He spoke about drugs. Specifically, he talked about marijuana. And we got the story about the babysitter who was so hopped up on doobies that she ended up putting the baby in the oven.

At the time, I thought this was a real story so I was vehemently against smoking the chronic as I a) I didn't think I'd enjoy roasted baby and b)was worried I wouldn't know what to serve with roasted baby.

To this day, I still can't believe they told us that story. It's just ludicrous.

That was always an LSD story in our church youth groups.

Of course the doctrine was that weed would inexorably lead to constant LSD use, so, yeah.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:11 pm

Actually, now that you mention it, it might have been LSD.

But what do I know. I was high and starving for baby at the time.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:10 am

I'm shocked Nancy Pelosi wouldn't let the stock trading ban come up for a vote. Shocked I say!

https://twitter.com/elwasson/status/1575843968805654528

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:18 am

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:17 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:10 pm I can't possibly speak for the masses, but my boomer parents are very strongly against legalized marijuana. It stresses them out to a degree I did not think possible. When asked, they say they think people will get "all potted up on weed" and drive around, causing more car accidents. Because as we know, no one is driving around now under the influence of drugs (or alcohol).

There's definitely seems to be a cultural / generational divide on Jazz Cabbage and I'm guessing the Fox News demographic is squarely in the group that feels legalizing Devil's Lettuce will only usher in the fall of America that much faster.

You can thank Nixon and Reagan for their non-weed induced paranoia about weed.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:25 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 3:01 pmThere's still a lot of racism baked into the anti-marijuana rhetoric. It's a pretty good bet that anyone who still thinks it's acceptable to use the term "colored" will also be anti-MJ.

1) I see what you did there, you tricksy hobbits.
2) So much this, the first sentence. I would like to see the stats on regular usage by race, though (obviously they don't exist). Terribly tempted to make anecdotal comments, but there are just too many factors at play. Socio-economics, geography, culture, etc. So messy.
3) What in Dorf's name does Michael Jackson's skin pigment have to do with this?! What a strange tangent.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:47 pm

Goddamn genius!

https://twitter.com/jamacintosh/status/ ... 5286365184

i've heard there was a crystal flute
that lizzo played and it pleased the youth
but you don't really care for music, do you?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Sep 30, 2022 3:22 pm

Yeah. That’s awesome.

dbt1949 · Post by **dbt1949** » Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:54 am

Every time I see a picture of Trump's smug smile I want to maim his face so bad.........

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:21 pm

dbt1949 wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:54 am Every time I see a picture of Trump's smug smile I want to maim his face so bad.........

Melania? Is that you?

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Sun Oct 02, 2022 2:23 pm

Big day for Brazil and the world today. Polls show Lula with a double digit lead, but whether he can get over 50% today is still uncertain. If he does, I guess we'll see how committed Bolsonaro is to using the military to hold onto power.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:16 pm

Lula has just pulled ahead with 70% of the vote counted at 45.7%. Look like getting to 50 will be a stretch.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:20 pm

It's a runoff. Lula 48.2% to Bolonaro's 43.4%.

The 3rd and 4th candidates are members of the Democratic Labor Movement and garnered 7.2%. I assume most of those will go to Lula. It's going to be a tense month in Brazil.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:54 am

Tropical Trump was already claiming election fraud before the votes were being counted.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:23 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:54 am Tropical Trump was already claiming election fraud before the votes were being counted.

So was Bolonaro. And that polls were fake, and that the media lies, etc.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:24 pm

Unagi wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:23 pm
Carpet_pissr wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:54 am Tropical Trump was already claiming election fraud before the votes were being counted.
So was Bolonaro. And that polls were fake, and that the media lies, etc.

To be clear "Tropical Trump" = Bolsonaro.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:26 pm

El Guapo wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:24 pm
Unagi wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:23 pm
Carpet_pissr wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:54 am Tropical Trump was already claiming election fraud before the votes were being counted.
So was Bolonaro. And that polls were fake, and that the media lies, etc.
To be clear "Tropical Trump" = Bolsonaro.

LOL- I'm a fool, I don't know what I would do without you (all). I just pictured our Trump in Mar-a-Lago with a big orange Tropicana face.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 12:03 pm

California taxpayers are about to get gas refunds. What you need to know

Gov. Gavin Newsom and state lawmakers reached a deal for the refunds in June amid record-setting gas prices and rising costs for other goods.

....

Payments are automatic if you qualify; residents do not need to apply.

Individuals whose adjusted gross income in 2020 was up to $75,000 will receive a $350 refund, which doubles to $700 for joint filers earning as much as $150,000. Households will receive another $350 if they claimed any dependents, for a maximum of $1,050.

Has nothing to do with gas.

*Checks watch*
Yep, he's up for reelection in 2022.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:30 pm

Nice edits of the text which somewhat refutes what your are claiming.

Gov. Gavin Newsom and state lawmakers reached a deal for the refunds in June amid record-setting gas prices and rising costs for other goods.

Newsom had aimed to get the payments out by summer, when gas averaged over $6 per gallon, but debate among lawmakers over who would receive refunds and how much they would receive delayed the program by months.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:38 pm

California is running a major surplus. I'll take it (even though I don't buy gas).

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:32 pm

Pyperkub wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:30 pm Nice edits of the text which somewhat refutes what your are claiming.

Gov. Gavin Newsom and state lawmakers reached a deal for the refunds in June amid record-setting gas prices and rising costs for other goods.

Newsom had aimed to get the payments out by summer, when gas averaged over $6 per gallon, but debate among lawmakers over who would receive refunds and how much they would receive delayed the program by months.

How is any of it refuted? Summer 2022 is still re-election year.

And if it goes to people based on residency and income, not gas (or goods) purchases, it's not really a "gas refund" (as headlines state, not sure what California is officially calling it).

gilraen · Post by **gilraen** » Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:37 pm

Colorado did the same thing. The headline called it "gas refunds" but this is really more of a "refund to compensate for rising cost of gas and other goods".

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:38 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote:
Pyperkub wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:30 pm Nice edits of the text which somewhat refutes what your are claiming.

Gov. Gavin Newsom and state lawmakers reached a deal for the refunds in June amid record-setting gas prices and rising costs for other goods.

Newsom had aimed to get the payments out by summer, when gas averaged over $6 per gallon, but debate among lawmakers over who would receive refunds and how much they would receive delayed the program by months.

How is any of it refuted? Summer 2022 is still re-election year.

And if it goes to people based on residency and income, not gas (or goods) purchases, it's not really a "gas refund" (as headlines state, not sure what California is officially calling it).

When did gas prices explode in 2021 again? Did Newsom do this when he was facing recall? No .

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:28 pm

Pyperkub wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:38 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote:
Pyperkub wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:30 pm Nice edits of the text which somewhat refutes what your are claiming.

Gov. Gavin Newsom and state lawmakers reached a deal for the refunds in June amid record-setting gas prices and rising costs for other goods.

Newsom had aimed to get the payments out by summer, when gas averaged over $6 per gallon, but debate among lawmakers over who would receive refunds and how much they would receive delayed the program by months.

How is any of it refuted? Summer 2022 is still re-election year.

And if it goes to people based on residency and income, not gas (or goods) purchases, it's not really a "gas refund" (as headlines state, not sure what California is officially calling it).
When did gas prices explode in 2021 again? Did Newsom do this when he was facing recall? No .

He did, but it wasn't a "gas refund," it was the Golden State Stimulus. Didn't round 2 go out just weeks before the recall vote?

https://mobile.twitter.com/GavinNewsom/ ... 03296?s=20

gbasden · Post by **gbasden** » Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:09 pm

gilraen wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:37 pm Colorado did the same thing. The headline called it "gas refunds" but this is really more of a "refund to compensate for rising cost of gas and other goods".

Which as a California resident I'm fine with. This is targeted at the non-rich who have been heavily affected by inflation. They need the help.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:55 am

Mass. has an obscure law from the 1980s that says if tax collections outpace growth by x amount, the gubmint has to give the difference back. This torpedoed the give-back that the legislature was writing because nobody remembered that law. The auto-triggered amount works out to around 13%, which isn't chump change. The legislature apologizes for sending money to people like me who actually paid the taxes instead of all the needy people who didn't.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Fri Oct 07, 2022 10:47 am

MAGA candidate: "My website doesn't show up in Google searches. The deep state is censoring me! I'm being deplatformed! Help, help...I'm being repressed!"

Reality: "You specifically set your site NOT to be indexed by Google, dumbass."

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:09 pm

Skinypupy wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 10:47 am MAGA candidate: "My website doesn't show up in Google searches. The deep state is censoring me! I'm being deplatformed! Help, help...I'm being repressed!"

Reality: "You specifically set your site NOT to be indexed by Google, dumbass."

The Stupid, it burnssssss....

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:47 am

https://twitter.com/laurenboebert/statu ... Ml4uyIo2FQ

Lauren Boebert wrote:Two Words: Let's Go Brandon!

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:52 am

Holman wrote: Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:47 am https://twitter.com/laurenboebert/statu ... Ml4uyIo2FQ

Lauren Boebert wrote:Two Words: Let's Go Brandon!

I can only assume that's her attempt to be clever, fancying herself De Niro, like "I got two words for you. Shut the fuck up!"

Of course when you are and idiot trying to be clever often backfires. Especially when that comes out of nowhere.

Edit: context shows that is in response to a Biden speech. So her point is made. Only her response is to "Made in America", which implies if Biden slogans "Made in America" and your response is "Fuck Joe Biden" then your response is "Fuck Made in America" isn't it?

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Sat Oct 08, 2022 2:45 pm

I thought she was trying to encourage Dark Brandon.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:18 pm

I suspect lib trolling. I have been doing that a lot lately for some reason.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 10:41 am

Tulsi Gabbard has announced that she's leaving the Democratic Party. I don't know what they are going to do without her.

Also I loved this headline.

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 11:03 am

Girl’s gotta grift while she still can.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 11:05 am

JFC

“I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms, are hostile to people of faith & spirituality, demonize the police & protect criminals at the expense of law-abiding Americans, believe in open borders, weaponize the national security state to go after political opponents, and above all, dragging us ever closer to nuclear war,”