Social Media Discussion

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:19 pm

One can hope that some of those let go will start a competing company and trounce new Twitter.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:24 pm

Indeed. Musk is desperately trying to stem the bleeding of his terrible decision making by ... making more terrible (and illegal) decisions. He's about to be buried in lawsuits and governmental action. Nothing more dystopian than being let know you are in the wheel of death and it is signed by the non-corporeal voice of "Twitter." The bottom line is no matter how this goes a 50% cut in staff may be the beginning of the end of the company. The people left behind will be overwhelmed with work and be the type of performers who can move on. And many will. I can't wait to read the HBR post-mortem in a few years (if not much sooner).

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1588327845348093952

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:55 pm

I would love the other 50% to walk out.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:03 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:55 pm I would love the other 50% to walk out.

Ditto. Quiet quit would be even better. At least some of the remainers will not want to or be unable to relocate to an office.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:46 am

Alefroth wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:03 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:55 pm I would love the other 50% to walk out.
Ditto. Quiet quit would be even better. At least some of the remainers will not want to or be unable to relocate to an office.

Quiet quit at an Elon Musk run company? Lol good luck to any who try that one.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:51 am

https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/sta ... 0401018880

Yes, Elon, it’s totally “activists” causing advertisers to flee. It has nothing to do with them reading the writing on the wall on how your business decisions are going to drive away huge segments of the user base. You know…they customers they’re paying to advertise to.

Hilarious to me how all these self-proclaimed “alpha” types are all such whiny babies.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:56 am

It is clearly setting in that he is trending toward laughingstock over this foolish Twitter play. It was a joke to him when he was flying high and thought he'd wriggle out. Now like all narcissists it isn't his own fault. But the true measure of how shitty a human we are seeing here that he is whining while he is putting thousands of people out on the streets.

Malificent · Post by **Malificent** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:01 am

Skinypupy wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:51 am https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/sta ... 0401018880

Yes, Elon, it’s totally “activists” causing advertisers to flee. It has nothing to do with them reading the writing on the wall on how your business decisions are going to drive away huge segments of the user base. You know…they customers they’re paying to advertise to.

Hilarious to me how all these self-proclaimed “alpha” types are all such whiny babies.

Funny, I always thought activism *was* free speech. Who knew?

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:14 am

There's nothing more American than weaponizing capitalism to press for social change. Live by the sword, die by the sword, Elon.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:03 pm

Did he think running Twitter would be ... easy??

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:30 pm

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 2:57 pm

https://twitter.com/Angry_Teach_314/sta ... ses-g&s=19

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 3:13 pm

Need a fact check on this:

https://twitter.com/tobymorton/status/1 ... 2881978368

Too good to be true, this validates what I've been saying for a while.

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 3:16 pm

Well, the Trump tweet says it's parody, so I'm guessing you can rate this one as false.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 3:20 pm

ImLawBoy wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 3:16 pm Well, the Trump tweet says it's parody, so I'm guessing you can rate this one as false.

Figures. But does that mean Musk copied a parody? Does give him parody based plausible deniability? I'm confused.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 3:30 pm

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:17 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:55 pm I would love the other 50% to walk out.

And for the 100% to start the company that drives Twitter into oblivion.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:32 pm

Blackhawk wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:17 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:55 pm I would love the other 50% to walk out.
And for the 100% to start the company that drives Twitter into oblivion.

Isn't Dorsey already working on that with Bluesky?

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:34 pm

https://twitter.com/scottjshapiro/statu ... 0595430400

telcta · Post by **telcta** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:38 pm

Has twitter stock halted trading during the sale to Musk? Is that normal when a publicly traded company is sold? I think it’s been a few days now, maybe longer.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:42 pm

telcta wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:38 pm Has twitter stock halted trading during the sale to Musk? Is that normal when a publicly traded company is sold? I think it’s been a few days now, maybe longer.

He took the company private and delisted the stock today.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:43 pm

telcta wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:38 pm Has twitter stock halted trading during the sale to Musk? Is that normal when a publicly traded company is sold? I think it’s been a few days now, maybe longer.

There is no more TWTR stock trading. It's not a public company anymore.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:51 pm

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:11 pm

stessier wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:34 pm https://twitter.com/scottjshapiro/statu ... 0595430400

Can't decide if serious or...

All advertisers have kicked him to the curb.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:39 pm

Jaymann wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:11 pm
stessier wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:34 pm https://twitter.com/scottjshapiro/statu ... 0595430400
Can't decide if serious or...

All advertisers have kicked him to the curb.

#thatsthejoke

Freyland · Post by **Freyland** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:41 pm

Someone more knowledgeable than me would have to comment.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:55 pm

stessier wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:34 pm https://twitter.com/scottjshapiro/statu ... 0595430400

I wish it were an ad free app. Every 5th tweet on the Twitter app is a promoted tweet.

gilraen · Post by **gilraen** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:57 pm

Ad-blocker takes care of that. Most of the time I don't see any ads on Twitter at all.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:00 pm

gilraen wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:57 pm Ad-blocker takes care of that. Most of the time I don't see any ads on Twitter at all.

No ad blocking on a mobile app.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:08 pm

Freyland wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:41 pm

Someone more knowledgeable than me would have to comment.

Dorsey was advising him during the takeover. They are in contact since after Dorsey left to work on Bluesky. Musk is not making fun of Dorsey. So unless Dorsey backstabs Musk, that would be my assumption, making and ass of u...

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:04 pm

Who knew CA had laws requiring employers give 60 days notice before mass layoffs. Apparently not Twitter's lawyers.

https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/04/twitt ... al-notice/

Twitter is being sued for not giving employees advance notice of a mass layoff that began in earnest early Friday. The lawsuit alleges that Twitter violated worker protection laws, including the federal Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act as well as the California WARN Act, both of which require 60 days of advance notice.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:07 pm

lawsuit?
laws?

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:22 pm

I don't know the veracity of this but apparently one cure for a WARN violation is severance for the waiting period. So 60 days of pay.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:30 pm

malchior wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:22 pm I don't know the veracity of this but apparently one cure for a WARN violation is severance for the waiting period. So 60 days of pay.

That would make sense. I did see mention of a 60 day severance.

edit: It looks like the Twitter severance policy includes 60 days of salary paid within three months. Not sure if that would suffice as a cure or not.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:40 pm

I've seen it pointed out that right now is that only time in internet history when someone could launch a new platform entirely imitating an old platform and expect (because the of the toxicity of the old platform's owner) that it would spectacularly succeed.

I wish I had money to invest.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:47 pm

Totally. The fallout is beginning. Some people have been posting that they are reporting antisemitic and other hate speech and getting results back in a minute or two saying that the speech doesn't run afoul of Twitter standards. He cut entire moderation teams so this might be a failure of 'ML' based moderation. It isn't that surprising but I'm figuring his true customers - the advertisers are going to head for the hills and avoid the meltdown.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:50 pm

Definitely seeing lots more...questionable posts being promoted. The noise is getting louder and while I was hopeful Twitter would remain viable, I'm actually a bit surprised at how quickly it seems to be sinking into the ocean of chaos.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:32 pm

I read yesterday that Musk has gotten around the 60-day requirement in the past by simply notifying the workers they were to be laid off, then stopping the affected workers from doing anything work-related, all while keeping them on the payroll for 60 days. So rather than severance, they get a paid vacation.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:34 pm

That seems to be ridiculously complex for essentially the same effect.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:34 pm