Social Media Discussion

[Holman]

Right. They say it means that the user has "verified their phone number," but I believe all that means is that I provided a number to which they could send a security code, which I sent back. It doesn't mean anything remotely like checking to see that I am really Thunberg.

Holman Thunberg. Has a sort of Nordic bad-ass ring to it, doesn't it?

This was your 36,000 post on OO. Just wanted you to know which one it was.

For my part, I feel honored.

[Rumpy]

I doubt I'm the only one, but I keep reading the title of this thread as 'Social Media Destruction'.

[gilraen]

Couldn't decide whether to post it here or in the Super Mario movie thread There's a reason Twitter didn't used to allow 60-minute video uploads before:

The entire Super Mario Bros. movie keeps getting posted to Twitter

[Jaymann]

I watched the Musk interview on Bill Maher and I must admit he does not come across as a raving lunatic. But Maher went full fanboi with NO pushback. Musk talks freedom of speech, but his actions belie it.

[Max Peck]

Twitter is starting the day off on the right foot.

[LawBeefaroni]

I watched the Musk interview on Bill Maher and I must admit he does not come across as a raving lunatic. But Maher went full fanboi with NO pushback. Musk talks freedom of speech, but his actions belie it.

That wasn't an interview, it was an infomercial.

[Rumpy]

Yeah, probably to help convince the world he's not a Bond villain.

[LordMortis]

So CNBC is reporting that their finance blah blah blah is up for becoming CEO of Twitter. But the real news is how everyone keeps saying what a great relationship NBC (Comcast?) has had with Musk. No shit? You've been blowing him daily for years now. So now you're just admitting it to try and insert yourself in picture. Just like you did with nonstop coverage of Mario movie for three weeks like you have covered no other movie ever.... Maybe I should put this in the death of the 4th estate thread instead...

[Max Peck]

Yeah, probably to help convince the world he's not a Bond villain.

Musk is no Bond villain. He's more of a Saturday morning Scooby-Doo villain who aspires to be a Kingsman villain.

[LawBeefaroni]

So CNBC is reporting that their finance blah blah blah is up for becoming CEO of Twitter. But the real news is how everyone keeps saying what a great relationship NBC (Comcast?) has had with Musk. No shit? You've been blowing him daily for years now. So now you're just admitting it to try and insert yourself in picture. Just like you did with nonstop coverage of Mario movie for three weeks like you have covered no other movie ever.... Maybe I should put this in the death of the 4th estate thread instead...

How long until Musk tries to get her pregnant?

[LordMortis]

So CNBC is reporting that their finance blah blah blah is up for becoming CEO of Twitter. But the real news is how everyone keeps saying what a great relationship NBC (Comcast?) has had with Musk. No shit? You've been blowing him daily for years now. So now you're just admitting it to try and insert yourself in picture. Just like you did with nonstop coverage of Mario movie for three weeks like you have covered no other movie ever.... Maybe I should put this in the death of the 4th estate thread instead...

How long until Musk tries to get her pregnant?

That was my initial thought but she's been around for like 30 years which suggests she's in her 50s. I actually think he's making a business decision... to expand his influence...

[LawBeefaroni]

It's a good business move. That doesn't mean he won't still try.

[Rumpy]

Yeah, probably to help convince the world he's not a Bond villain.

Musk is no Bond villain. He's more of a Saturday morning Scooby-Doo villain who aspires to be a Kingsman villain.

Only because he's so transparent that you can see his ambitions from a mile a way...

[Holman]

I'd love to know whether the people actually doing the work at Twitter/Tesla/SpaceX would miss Elon Musk if he suddenly disappeared but left his money behind.

[Kraken]

How much vision and motivation he provides is an interesting question.

[Rumpy]

There are probably some that wish he'd take a one-way trip on his rocket.

[Unagi]

I bet he acts as a drag against motivation, and I can't imagine his 'vision' is all that remarkable...

[Kraken]

I bet he acts as a drag against motivation, and I can't imagine his 'vision' is all that remarkable...

I don't want to be Elon's apologist, but NASA's goal is to bring some rocks back from Mars while Musk's is to settle there. NASA is more likely to succeed than Musk is, but Musk's vision isn't unremarkable.

As for motivation, frequent severe beatings go a long way, as all parents know.

[stessier]

I bet he acts as a drag against motivation, and I can't imagine his 'vision' is all that remarkable...

I don't want to be Elon's apologist, but NASA's goal is to bring some rocks back from Mars while Musk's is to settle there. NASA is more likely to succeed than Musk is, but Musk's vision isn't unremarkable.

As for motivation, frequent severe beatings go a long way, as all parents know.

So I would be a visionary if I said we were going to Europa as long as the checks kept clearing?

[LordMortis]

I bet he acts as a drag against motivation, and I can't imagine his 'vision' is all that remarkable...

I don't want to be Elon's apologist, but NASA's goal is to bring some rocks back from Mars while Musk's is to settle there. NASA is more likely to succeed than Musk is, but Musk's vision isn't unremarkable.

As for motivation, frequent severe beatings go a long way, as all parents know.

So I would be a visionary if I said we were going to Europa as long as the checks kept clearing?

As long as your mission (vision and checks) pushes technology forward. Musk's does. I can't argue that. And I am no apologist. He's a rotten human being.

[stessier]

I bet he acts as a drag against motivation, and I can't imagine his 'vision' is all that remarkable...

I don't want to be Elon's apologist, but NASA's goal is to bring some rocks back from Mars while Musk's is to settle there. NASA is more likely to succeed than Musk is, but Musk's vision isn't unremarkable.

As for motivation, frequent severe beatings go a long way, as all parents know.

So I would be a visionary if I said we were going to Europa as long as the checks kept clearing?

As long as your mission (vision and checks) pushes technology forward. Musk's does. I can't argue that. And I am no apologist. He's a rotten human being.

That's the thing - just have money and pick a future target and you'll push technology forward. It's not anything special.

[Rumpy]

I bet he acts as a drag against motivation, and I can't imagine his 'vision' is all that remarkable...

I don't want to be Elon's apologist, but NASA's goal is to bring some rocks back from Mars while Musk's is to settle there. NASA is more likely to succeed than Musk is, but Musk's vision isn't unremarkable.

As for motivation, frequent severe beatings go a long way, as all parents know.

His vision works best as a partnership. NASA needs his rockets for their space missions. He gets to figure out the tech and gets credit for it. At the same time, I don't think Musk would go so far without NASA's assistance.

[Holman]

I bet he acts as a drag against motivation, and I can't imagine his 'vision' is all that remarkable...

I don't want to be Elon's apologist, but NASA's goal is to bring some rocks back from Mars while Musk's is to settle there. NASA is more likely to succeed than Musk is, but Musk's vision isn't unremarkable.

I'm not sure it's really visionary when you're the millionth person to imagine it.

[LordMortis]

At the same time, I don't think Musk would go so far without NASA's assistance.

His post Paypal business is all founded in US Government assistance. Either through direct funding or tax credit. His libertarian facade, is just that.

[Max Peck]

I bet he acts as a drag against motivation, and I can't imagine his 'vision' is all that remarkable...

I don't want to be Elon's apologist, but NASA's goal is to bring some rocks back from Mars while Musk's is to settle there. NASA is more likely to succeed than Musk is, but Musk's vision isn't unremarkable.

As for motivation, frequent severe beatings go a long way, as all parents know.

His vision works best as a partnership. NASA needs his rockets for their space missions. He gets to figure out the tech and gets credit for it. At the same time, I don't think Musk would go so far without NASA's assistance.

One suspects that his employees get to figure out the tech while he takes credit for it.

[RunningMn9]

His vision works best as a partnership. NASA needs his rockets for their space missions. He gets to figure out the tech and gets credit for it. At the same time, I don't think Musk would go so far without NASA's assistance.

He doesn’t figure out the tech though. He pays people that figure out the tech. I only point that out because people keep talking about him as if he is the one programming self driving cars while also single-handedly designing spaceships.

[RunningMn9]

One suspects that his employees get to figure out the tech while he takes credit for it.

Damn, beat me to it.

[Unagi]

I bet he acts as a drag against motivation, and I can't imagine his 'vision' is all that remarkable...

I don't want to be Elon's apologist, but NASA's goal is to bring some rocks back from Mars while Musk's is to settle there. NASA is more likely to succeed than Musk is, but Musk's vision isn't unremarkable.

I feel like you are handing Elon a great deal of unearned credit for 'the vision of settling on Mars' here.

[Rumpy]

I bet he acts as a drag against motivation, and I can't imagine his 'vision' is all that remarkable...

I don't want to be Elon's apologist, but NASA's goal is to bring some rocks back from Mars while Musk's is to settle there. NASA is more likely to succeed than Musk is, but Musk's vision isn't unremarkable.

As for motivation, frequent severe beatings go a long way, as all parents know.

His vision works best as a partnership. NASA needs his rockets for their space missions. He gets to figure out the tech and gets credit for it. At the same time, I don't think Musk would go so far without NASA's assistance.

One suspects that his employees get to figure out the tech while he takes credit for it.

Oh absolutely. He still gets the credit and keeps the lights on.

His vision works best as a partnership. NASA needs his rockets for their space missions. He gets to figure out the tech and gets credit for it. At the same time, I don't think Musk would go so far without NASA's assistance.

He doesn’t figure out the tech though. He pays people that figure out the tech. I only point that out because people keep talking about him as if he is the one programming self driving cars while also single-handedly designing spaceships.

Of course that's kind of the point. He'll get all the credit for his minion's work, just like he took credit for Tesla's tech. At the end of the day, he still wouldn't have gotten this far without NASA.

[Kraken]

I bet he acts as a drag against motivation, and I can't imagine his 'vision' is all that remarkable...

I don't want to be Elon's apologist, but NASA's goal is to bring some rocks back from Mars while Musk's is to settle there. NASA is more likely to succeed than Musk is, but Musk's vision isn't unremarkable.

I feel like you are handing Elon a great deal of unearned credit for 'the vision of settling on Mars' here.

Geez, tough room.

Maybe "vision" was the wrong word. Certainly, people have been talking about the idea of settling Mars since we learned about planets, and taking it seriously since we learned to build rockets. Founding a company to design and build a Mars ship, and getting NASA's cooperation, is next-level. Obviously Musk isn't doing the engineering himself, and there's a lot more to do beyond just building a vehicle. It might never succeed. But he's doing something nobody else has ever done before. Like him or not (I don't), he deserves a lot of credit for SpaceX's existence and accomplishments, past and future.

[Rumpy]

Yeah, his company at the very least came up with a functional way to re-use rockets, which is no mean feat and it's actually quite a big deal in aerospace terms.

[LordMortis]

And predictably, CNBC is all atwitter this morning fawning all over Musk and the brilliance of his decision making. There are no other stories, except a brief blurb on the debt ceiling. You'd think he was the new Mario movie.

[Unagi]

I bet he acts as a drag against motivation, and I can't imagine his 'vision' is all that remarkable...

I don't want to be Elon's apologist, but NASA's goal is to bring some rocks back from Mars while Musk's is to settle there. NASA is more likely to succeed than Musk is, but Musk's vision isn't unremarkable.

I feel like you are handing Elon a great deal of unearned credit for 'the vision of settling on Mars' here.

Geez, tough room.

Maybe "vision" was the wrong word. Certainly, people have been talking about the idea of settling Mars since we learned about planets, and taking it seriously since we learned to build rockets. Founding a company to design and build a Mars ship, and getting NASA's cooperation, is next-level. Obviously Musk isn't doing the engineering himself, and there's a lot more to do beyond just building a vehicle. It might never succeed. But he's doing something nobody else has ever done before. Like him or not (I don't), he deserves a lot of credit for SpaceX's existence and accomplishments, past and future.

Giving a total stoner a massive load of cash will not always result in a horrible endeavor. I will give you that, for sure. And I say that as a fellow stoner.

[Max Peck]

Twitter pulls out of voluntary EU disinformation code

Twitter has pulled out of the European Union's voluntary code to fight disinformation, the EU has said.

Thierry Breton, who is the EU's internal market commissioner, announced the news on Twitter - but warned the firm new laws would force compliance.

"Obligations remain. You can run but you can't hide," he said.

Twitter will be legally required to fight disinformation in the EU from 25 August, he said, adding: "Our teams will be ready for enforcement."

Twitter has not confirmed its stance on the code or responded to a request for comment.

I'm surprised that Twitter did not respond -- I'd expect at least a .

[Smoove_B]

Things are going great at Twitter:

Twitter head of trust and safety Ella Irwin resigned Thursday evening, per multiple sources, after owner Elon Musk publicly rebuked his own staff over a content moderation decision.

Catch up quick: Twitter staff had decided that a video titled "What is a Woman?" by the Daily Wire's Matt Walsh, a far-right personality who often attacks transgender people, violated the platform's hate-speech rules.

[Zaxxon]

TIL that Twitter still has (had?) a trust and safety department.

[LawBeefaroni]

TIL that Twitter still has (had?) a trust and safety department.

Ella Irwin

20+ years of experience building products, services and teams that protect consumers. Passionate about preventing bad actors and ensuring the products we use are safe and trusted.

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[Alefroth]

Things are going great at Twitter:

Twitter head of trust and safety Ella Irwin resigned Thursday evening, per multiple sources, after owner Elon Musk publicly rebuked his own staff over a content moderation decision.

Catch up quick: Twitter staff had decided that a video titled "What is a Woman?" by the Daily Wire's Matt Walsh, a far-right personality who often attacks transgender people, violated the platform's hate-speech rules.

Musk is promoting the hell out of it now.

[Max Peck]

Is Big Tech closing ranks?

Twitter CEO woos Google into partnership while dealing with Musk’s mess

Twitter CEO Linda Yaccarino has seemingly smoothed things over with Google after Twitter reportedly stopped paying its Google Cloud bills.

Sources familiar with the matter told The Wall Street Journal that Twitter has resumed payments to Google after "consistently" dodging bills that sometimes racked up to more than $20 million a month.

According to one source, Yaccarino hopped on a video call with Google Cloud's chief executive, Thomas Kurian, last week, hoping to set things straight between the two tech companies. Now, it appears that Yaccarino's management tactics were so effective that Google is weighing the benefits of forming "a broader partnership" with Twitter, possibly investing more in Twitter ads or paying to access Twitter data.

That could help Twitter recover as ad sales have continued plunging. Estimates from market intelligence firm Sensor Tower showed that year over year, Google's ad spending on Twitter in May was down by more than 90 percent, the WSJ reported.

Google told Ars that it does not comment on its customers.

[Max Peck]

The caged death match that the entire world wants...

Mark Zuckerberg is ready to fight Elon Musk in a cage match

Here we go.

After Elon Musk recently tweeted that he would be “up for a cage fight” with Zuckerberg, the Meta CEO shot back by posting a screenshot of Musk’s tweet with the caption “send me location.”

I’ve confirmed that Zuckerberg’s post on his Instagram account is, in fact, not a joke, which means the ball is now in Musk’s court. “The story speaks for itself,” Meta spokesperson Iska Saric told me.

After this story was published, Musk responded with two words: “Vegas Octagon.” He then tweeted: “I have this great move that I call ‘The Walrus,’ where I just lie on top of my opponent and do nothing.”