[TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue May 16, 2023 8:38 pm

Sudy wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 6:39 pm much like his secret brother in the Final Frontier lol. But at least that made sense in the context of the story.

That may be the first time I’ve ever come across “Final Frontier” and “made sense” in the same sentence.

Sudy · Post by **Sudy** » Tue May 16, 2023 8:53 pm

Not all of Final Frontier was bad. Just 87%.

I just meant it makes sense Sybok was a family secret. It wouldn't make sense that Michael was. Unless Discovery ends with her being erased from time or something lol.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue May 16, 2023 9:15 pm

Such Sweet Sorrow, pt. 2 has your answers. Due to the events with the Red Angel, Control and Section 31, Spock suggested they wipe all records of her and the Discovery to prevent it all from happening again. I mean, if you’re gonna keep a secret, who better than a Vulcan. Hell, Kirk didn’t even know Sarek was Spock’s pop until he was on the Enterprise standing in front of him.

Sudy · Post by **Sudy** » Tue May 16, 2023 9:32 pm

I must have wiped all records of that season from my memory.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue May 16, 2023 9:37 pm

So now you know how Spock and his family kept that little secret then.

Sudy · Post by **Sudy** » Tue May 16, 2023 9:43 pm

Sorry, I wiped all records of this conversation.

If you take away my right to complain, what will I have left?

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue May 16, 2023 9:46 pm

Who are you again?

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Wed May 17, 2023 12:33 am

hepcat wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 9:15 pm Such Sweet Sorrow, pt. 2 has your answers. Due to the events with the Red Angel, Control and Section 31, Spock suggested they wipe all records of her and the Discovery to prevent it all from happening again. I mean, if you’re gonna keep a secret, who better than a Vulcan. Hell, Kirk didn’t even know Sarek was Spock’s pop until he was on the Enterprise standing in front of him.

Or that he was secretly a Romulan that coulda been Kirk's friend in another place.

Fireball · Post by **Fireball** » Wed May 17, 2023 5:04 pm

hepcat wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 9:46 pm Who are you again?

It doesn't look like anything to me.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed May 17, 2023 5:28 pm

It’s all in good fun.

…although I do wish Sudy would let Space Leia into his heart.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Mon May 22, 2023 7:16 pm

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Tue May 23, 2023 1:28 pm

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Tue May 23, 2023 2:11 pm

What does this have to do with Star Trek?

TheMix · Post by **TheMix** » Tue May 23, 2023 2:28 pm

Because the tweet was posted by Jonathan Frakes. Presumably.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Tue May 23, 2023 2:41 pm

Just seems quite random.

TheMix · Post by **TheMix** » Tue May 23, 2023 3:44 pm

Rumpy wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 2:41 pm Just seems quite random.

Not disputing that in the least.

Just betting that that was the "logic" that Dae used followed.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Tue May 23, 2023 3:53 pm

Probably could have gone in the Empire Strike Back 43 years thread better.

TheMix · Post by **TheMix** » Tue May 23, 2023 4:03 pm

Not really.

I think the Random Randomness thread would have been fine.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Wed May 24, 2023 1:54 pm

Found something for the Star Trek thread!

Sudy · Post by **Sudy** » Wed May 24, 2023 11:04 pm

I was just thinking, I wish Picard's time as Kamin in The Inner Light was regarded as having as big an effect on his life as being Borg was. It's a shame it wasn't viewed as a healing process.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Wed May 24, 2023 11:23 pm

Well, I'm sure it was, but they could only fit so much into the season. Would have been cool for him to have been sent back there though.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sat May 27, 2023 12:45 pm

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:11 pm

The USS Protostar is about to shut its lights down, as Paramount+ has canceled Star Trek: Prodigy after a single season of adventures. The animated series focused on a crew of young aliens that returned to Earth five years after the events of Star Trek: Voyager, when they found the ship that would eventually take them into the stories that would define the rest of their lives. According to Deadline, the previously announced second season will complete their post-production and be shopped to a new home, as the creators seek to give the crew of the Protostar a way to continue their adventures.

https://collider.com/star-trek-prodigy- ... cancelled/

Hopefully, they'll tie up any plot lines/loose ends in the second season (not sure there were many). The show was better than I thought it was (I originally thought it was supposed to be an education show and not a narrative show). That said, IMO it's the weakest of the new series, and I'm OK with it ending.

Sudy · Post by **Sudy** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:33 pm

I read of this on another site. I presume the article above also mentions that the show's also going to be pulled from Paramount+. I'm really getting sick of this "remove even first-party content from streaming services as a tax write-off and/or to keep from having to pay residuals" trend and I hope it eventually stops. But money, so it won't. But as long as I can stream these shows on other servicers who pick them up and/or "shady" streaming sites as a last resort, whatever. I'm not going back to buying physical media. But I don't want to get involved in formal downloading of pirated content either.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:36 pm

Yeah, I mean some people want to just catch up and now they can't when they tend to do that. Thing about Star Trek though, given that it's a fairly expensive IP, I don't see that getting a home elsewhere. Kind of a depressing time to be in. Your show fails, and it's no longer enough to just have it cancelled, but it's wiped off the service as if it never existed.

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:54 pm

Rumpy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:36 pm Yeah, I mean some people want to just catch up and now they can't when they tend to do that. Thing about Star Trek though, given that it's a fairly expensive IP, I don't see that getting a home elsewhere. Kind of a depressing time to be in. Your show fails, and it's no longer enough to just have it cancelled, but it's wiped off the service as if it never existed.

In general it is but would an animated show be as expensive?

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:05 pm

I would think so. Still gotta pay for the writers and animators.

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:15 pm

Rumpy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:05 pm I would think so. Still gotta pay for the writers and animators.

Right, but out of any type of show you can make animation has to be the cheapest. You can have the craziest scene possible and it shouldn't cost any more than any other scene.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:38 pm

From a technical standpoint maybe, but you've still got a full crew behind it, not to mention the expense of the IP and marketing, and then it's still got to find its niche. I mean, look at it this way, if they're removing it to recoup costs, it must be expensive enough.

Kasey Chang · Post by **Kasey Chang** » Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:09 am

It's a tax writeoff for Paramount.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Sat Jun 24, 2023 2:05 pm

Yeah, but the fact that they are even doing that means it's been too costly to just let it sit there. A tax writeoff ends up the only way they can get something out of it. I suspect that is now going to be the new normal whenever something gets cancelled on a streaming service.

Sudy · Post by **Sudy** » Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:30 pm

(Spoilers for season 3 of Picard.)

Spoiler:

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:48 pm

Oh, rumours that all of Star Trek is leaving Crave in Canada, which is a big deal as Bell has owned the exclusive rights for decades from when CTV Sci-Fi was known as the Space channel. Many think it might land on P+, but if so, it's strange timing given everything else currently happening with P+. Might have something to do with the fact that Discovery, which was shot in Canada, is no longer in production.

Sudy · Post by **Sudy** » Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:37 pm

Classic Trek is still on Netflix here, also. I don't personally care if it leaves Crave as long as I can find it. I've subbed to Paramount a couple times both through their frontend and Prime. Easier to do through Prime, though their UI leaves something to be desired.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:09 am

Is this thread referring to Discovery?

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:57 am

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:09 am Is this thread referring to Discovery?

It started off referring to Discovery, but it became a catchall for all the new star trek shows being developed.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:42 am

And yet people still post spoilers here despite it being a general thread.

Sudy · Post by **Sudy** » Thu Jun 29, 2023 2:54 pm

Honestly, I can't remember what the unofficial rules are anymore. I apologize if I spoiled anything for you with my post yesterday... I went back and spoilered it. If we have a dedicated Picard thread I forgot.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:28 pm

As a general rule of thumb, use spoiler tags for everything made after 1937. That’s how the old hepster rolls.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:37 pm

Rosebud was his sled!!