The Trump Investigation(s) Thread

[gilraen]

All this talk of his imminent death is crazy. Wishful thinking much guys?

Well...yeah!

[Pyperkub]

He's probably posting in the medical complaints thread under an alt.... like all the rest of us OOld geezers.

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[LawBeefaroni]

All this talk of his imminent death is crazy. Wishful thinking much guys?

Is there any indication that he’s close enough to death where it would matter for our particular context here? Sheesh.

If he were stumbling around, slurring his speech, using a wheelchair, or obviously wheezing, etc etc ok (as I write that it comes to me that it sounds a lot like I’m describing Biden more than Trump).

Absent overt signs of rapidly failing health, is the hope that he’s going to just keel over any day?

I never said imminent, just inevitable. Everyone dies.

[El Guapo]

All this talk of his imminent death is crazy. Wishful thinking much guys?

Is there any indication that he’s close enough to death where it would matter for our particular context here? Sheesh.

If he were stumbling around, slurring his speech, using a wheelchair, or obviously wheezing, etc etc ok (as I write that it comes to me that it sounds a lot like I’m describing Biden more than Trump).

Absent overt signs of rapidly failing health, is the hope that he’s going to just keel over any day?

I never said imminent, just inevitable. Everyone dies.

Except for Nwabudike Morgan.

[hepcat]

Is there any indication that he’s close enough to death where it would matter for our particular context here? Sheesh.

I mean, his karma meter HAS to be at negative 4 thousand at this point.

[pr0ner]

Looks like Mark Meadows sang, and the grand jury will likely be asked to vote to indict Trump on charges of obstruction of justice and Espionage Act violations as early as tomorrow.

[Smoove_B]

I mean, that's what people are saying. Until I see the perp walk, I don't believe it.

[LawBeefaroni]

I mean, that's what people are saying. Until I see the perp walk, I don't believe it.

He'll never be perp walked. Unless he wants to be. He's under Secret Service protection for the rest of his life.


Edit: here's a thought. Even if he goes to jail, he'd have Secret Service protection, probably sitting outside his cell. Talk about a shitty detail to pull.

[Alefroth]

I mean, that's what people are saying. Until I see the perp walk, I don't believe it.

He'll never be perp walked. Unless he wants to be. He's under Secret Service protection for the rest of his life.


Edit: here's a thought. Even if he goes to jail, he'd have Secret Service protection, probably sitting outside his cell. Talk about a shitty detail to pull.

I've seen it said that he would probably be sent to a protective custody facility and the duties of the SS would be transferred to those personnel.

[Isgrimnur]

Trump is about to turn 77. The US actuarial tables put that age group of males at a 4.9% chance of death per year.

[Blackhawk]

Fumble, fumble, fumble, fumble!

[hepcat]

Trump is about to turn 77. The US actuarial tables put that age group of males at a 4.9% chance of death per year.

Oh man, that means he could live for thousands of years if there’s less than a 5 percent chance each year he’ll die!

[Isgrimnur]

It goes up. At 119, there's a 97% chance.

[hepcat]

I still fear the concept of Highlander Trump. There can be only dumb!

[Grifman]

Trump has been told that he is a target in the classified document probe:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/07/politics ... index.html

It's happening. As noted in a post above, the fact that Meadows faces charges and has agreed to testify against him is bad news.

[Grifman]

He watches too much TV. FBI agents don't run around chasing whoever they want. They get orders from the division Special Agent in Charge who gets orders from the Director who gets orders from Congress.

Do you really think he cares about them only carrying out orders that they have received? As we all should know by now, Trump is vindictiveness personified. He'll want the heads of anyone associated with his prosecution, regardless of how/why they were involved.

[Blackhawk]

Which is certainly an incentive for them to not wait around.

Good strategy there, Donny.

[Daveman]

Boom

[Grifman]

Boom

[Unagi]

I still fear the concept of Highlander Trump. There can be only dumb!

Not bad. Not bad at all.

[Smoove_B]

Next week? But I want it now. I guess see you next Tuesday, Trump.

[Unagi]

Boom

I want to get excited.

Can I get excited ?!

Malchior? Permission !?

[Unagi]

D
O
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D
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D. O. J. !!


(totally kidding, but - uh - yeah)

[Unagi]

Trump declared his opinion that a president should be above the law.


"I never thought that such a thing could happen to a former President of the United States (who received far more votes than any sitting President in the History of our Country"



OMG how I love his discomfort.



I love Trump's final line:

[malchior]

No permission needed from me. I don't presume to know which this is going to go. I'm glad they indicted but concerned about the inevitable chaos. I personally cant wait to know which charges.

[Alefroth]

Still hoping to see some charges in DC.

[malchior]

Still hoping to see some charges in DC.

Same. Miami is not a great venue.

[Unagi]

Still hoping to see some charges in DC.

Same. Miami is not a great venue.

Can you fill in the picture on this?

Why there? (did they have to?)
Why not elsewhere? (did they have to?)

[Alefroth]

Still hoping to see some charges in DC.

Same. Miami is not a great venue.

Can you fill in the picture on this?

Why there? (did they have to?)
Why not elsewhere? (did they have to?)

Crimes have to be charged where they are committed. The ones he was just charged with must have occurred in FL.

But it seems likely they were also committed in DC.

[Alefroth]

Let's see if death and destruction will now ensue.

[Unagi]

Miami is not a great venue.

I hear that it was done to make Trump's argument about an 'unfriendly jury' to be something he will not say, and speaks to the strength of their case.


I'm trying not to be too excited. I'm trying to be excited.

[malchior]

Why Miami? That's likely where the crimes occurred. Ive read some arguments that classified documents cases typically belong in DC.

They might have calculated Trump probably would have tied this shit up for a year just to move it to Florida so this might short-cut some of the Trump abuse of the institutional rot. We will see.

[Smoove_B]

Can't wait to see the polling next week that he's still the #1 choice for the GOP in the 2024 election.

[Alefroth]

Miami is not a great venue.

I hear that it was done to make Trump's argument about an 'unfriendly jury' to be something he will not say, and speaks to the strength of their case.


I'm trying not to be too excited. I'm trying to be excited.

I have to put my faith in the hope that prosecutors will be able to weed out any MAGA or qidiots.

[Unagi]

What may be something we may see here, and it's amazing - - this could lead to them accusing a former President of sharing these types of documents with a foreign entity.

Can you imagine if that is revealed?

[malchior]

Miami is not a great venue.

I hear that it was done to make Trump's argument about an 'unfriendly jury' to be something he will not say, and speaks to the strength of their case.


I'm trying not to be too excited. I'm trying to be excited.

I have to put my faith in the hope that prosecutors will be able to weed out any MAGA or qidiots.

There are limits though. We will see. I'd feel much better about that in DC or even NY.

[Unagi]

Miami is not a great venue.

I hear that it was done to make Trump's argument about an 'unfriendly jury' to be something he will not say, and speaks to the strength of their case.


I'm trying not to be too excited. I'm trying to be excited.

I have to put my faith in the hope that prosecutors will be able to weed out any MAGA or qidiots.

Honestly, I am putting a large amount of my optimistic faith in the concept that no one would do this without some serious shit behind it. I really don't want to hear that "Most presidents would release this stuff within a year but this president took longer and that's not cool." I don't get the feeling that is what this is about.

Fingers so god damned crossed.

[Smoove_B]

I need to believe no one would make this move unless they had him dead to rights. Like irrefutable evidence demonstrating whatever series of crimes he committed and those crimes need to be serious enough to warrant making American history.

[Alefroth]

I want to believe.

[Unagi]

I've heard that none of us even knew about this grand jury until about last week.