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The Trump Investigation(s) Thread
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Kudos on them for recording it on audio, video and text messages. They had it all covered. Seems he got sloppier on his crimes post his time in the office. ![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon/lol.gif)
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The NY Times seems to be quietly avoiding commenting for now that they reported out sourcing saying there were 7 charges including a charge that was not actually in the indictment. Whoops. Reuters also reported out bad information this morning. Everyone is falling all over themselves here.
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I'm never going to unsee the bathroom. Seriously how does one man have such poor taste in decorating? That should be an additional charge for sure.
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History
WATCH: Complete statement from Special Counsel Jack Smith: "Today an indictment was unsealed charging Donald J. Trump with felony violations of our national security laws as well as participating in a conspiracy to obstruct justice."
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It would have been even better had they shown the cops chasing after a running Trump with a giant butterfly net.
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Drump gets entirely too much attention.
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For inquiring minds:Octavious wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:17 pm I'm never going to unsee the bathroom. Seriously how does one man have such poor taste in decorating? That should be an additional charge for sure.
I pity the investigators tasked with scanning those documents under UV light.
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My favorite (so far) of the many hot takes making the rounds:
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This would appear to be the evidence in question:The_Law_Boy wrote:i keep looking at the picture of classified documents being stored in a bathroom with a chandelier and an extra low toilet for leveraged shitting. i'm getting emotional, it is honestly a privilege to live in a time this stupid
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That chandelier is awfully damn low.
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Chandeliers are meant for high-ceiling rooms where people gather. That's their role. A chandelier in a bathroom is like a toilet in a foyer.
Trump, the famous real-estate genius, has no taste.
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There's a reason that he's known as the short-fingered vulgarian. And it's not just because he has a tiny penis.
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What I'm wondering is how many Repugnicans will still be willing to hitch their political career to the wagon of a convicted criminal felon loser. And don't forget the Georgia charges have not gone away.
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Virtually all of them.Jaymann wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:15 pm What I'm wondering is how many Repugnicans will still be willing to hitch their political career to the wagon of a convicted criminal felon loser. And don't forget the Georgia charges have not gone away.
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It brings up another point. I'm sure Florida Man never read even 1% of the documents he squirreled away. He just wanted to bully kids out of their lunch money.
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That bathroom is like everything else in Trump's life - a tacky facade designed to convey the illusion of wealth. Or at least what passes for wealth in Trump's mind. He lives in a cartoonish world of bathroom chandeliers and gold toilets because that's what he thinks "being rich" is.
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I really wish he had a giant pool full of coins to dive into.
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Just some light treason.
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Do we think he’ll get sold to another inmate for 2 or 3 cigarettes?
I’m thinking 2.
I’m thinking 2.
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Any normal ex federal employee who has dozens of charges for taking top secret documents is going to be held in Bendover supermax Federal Prison while awaiting trial in case they try to run to Russia or North Korea. And they might not get lawyers because “national security”.Octavious wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:14 pm I read about half. Any normal human being would be totally fucked. They have recordings and texts of them moving shit on purpose. They also have in texts that he had classified documents scattered all over the place in very unsecured places like the stage in the ballroom. Seriously stop the world I want off.
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They can't help themselves. I don't get it. I'll never get it.
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Why is Coach Beard announcing this?Smoove_B wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:38 pm History
WATCH: Complete statement from Special Counsel Jack Smith: "Today an indictment was unsealed charging Donald J. Trump with felony violations of our national security laws as well as participating in a conspiracy to obstruct justice."
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The Wall Street journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch. It’s the legitimate business man’s Fox News.malchior wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:57 am They can't help themselves. I don't get it. I'll never get it.
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Yeah, their news coverage is solid (if slanted), but don't go near their editorial page. The same person who delivers my Boston Globe also distributes the WSJ, and every now and then he mixes them up and leaves me the wrong paper.waitingtoconnect wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:32 am The Wall Street journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch. It’s the legitimate business man’s Fox News.
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I seriously don’t get how you STILL don’t get it. I know you’re not stupid or ill-informed, so your continued surprise baffles me.malchior wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:57 am They can't help themselves. I don't get it. I'll never get it.
I think it MAY be that you’re still in a state of shock that previously respected media outlets seem to lean ‘oligarch’ now?
Maybe that previously trusted news sources have sold out.
Maybe confusing ‘editorial’ with ‘news’? Doubt that one.
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They are don't just work with the man they are part of the man demographic. Even when they are publicly owned, their boards are controlled by the hedge funds and their CEOs are making tens of millions a year.Carpet_pissr wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:43 pm I think it MAY be that you’re still in a state of shock that previously respected media outlets seem to lean Are owned or ran by ‘oligarch’ now?
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Plus Jack Smith has a different grand jury looking into Trump's role in January 6.
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I'm just saying we should all be questioning their judgement. I legitimately don't understand why they continue to abase themselves for one of the worst people of our time. The oligarchs have no reason to defend Trump. They could just...be silent. I'd still think they suck but I'd get it. This? There is almost no upside.Carpet_pissr wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:43 pmI seriously don’t get how you STILL don’t get it. I know you’re not stupid or ill-informed, so your continued surprise baffles me.malchior wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:57 am They can't help themselves. I don't get it. I'll never get it.
I think it MAY be that you’re still in a state of shock that previously respected media outlets seem to lean ‘oligarch’ now?
Maybe that previously trusted news sources have sold out.
Maybe confusing ‘editorial’ with ‘news’? Doubt that one.
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Trump offered them the sudden opportunity to harness populist bigotry in the direct service of oligarchy. All those judges Trump appointed won't do all that much to help Cletus hate on the Darkies, but they'll bend over backwards to gut regulations and distribute wealth upwards.malchior wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 3:56 pm I'm just saying we should all be questioning their judgement. I legitimately don't understand why they continue to abase themselves for one of the worst people of our time. The oligarchs have no reason to defend Trump. They could just...be silent. I'd still think they suck but I'd get it. This? There is almost no upside.
So far the .1% has done a pretty good job of riding the tiger. And it looks like the next tiger in line (DeSantis) will be even more manageable for them.
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Don't be so sure about that, if one looks at the gerrymandering decision, even in the assents, there are indications that the only reason they upheld the VRA was because Alabama made the wrong arguments.Holman wrote:Trump offered them the sudden opportunity to harness populist bigotry in the direct service of oligarchy. All those judges Trump appointed won't do all that much to help Cletus hate on the Darkies, but they'll bend over backwards to gut regulations and distribute wealth upwards.malchior wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 3:56 pm I'm just saying we should all be questioning their judgement. I legitimately don't understand why they continue to abase themselves for one of the worst people of our time. The oligarchs have no reason to defend Trump. They could just...be silent. I'd still think they suck but I'd get it. This? There is almost no upside.
So far the .1% has done a pretty good job of riding the tiger. And it looks like the next tiger in line (DeSantis) will be even more manageable for them.
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The oligarchy isn’t following Trump. His base is the masses of deplorables. The oligarchs want someone less risky.
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Trump's alliance of convenience with the Federalists, who think they control him and can aim him, protects the ultra wealthy against the masses and uses some of the masses to do it. The Federalists have good reason to think they control him. He did deliver them the federal courts and have allowed their brand of "conservatism" to drop 90% of their pretense. The can hide behind the idea that "he's better for the economy than x is and he accomplished economic breakthrough y" while he enables them to protect their way of life against a populism that is growing in progressive youth that would eat the rich. I rather doubt Thiel and Musk are outliers. This has been a thing since Perot, really.malchior wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 3:56 pm I'm just saying we should all be questioning their judgement. I legitimately don't understand why they continue to abase themselves for one of the worst people of our time. The oligarchs have no reason to defend Trump. They could just...be silent. I'd still think they suck but I'd get it. This? There is almost no upside.
But they want his deplorables.Zarathud wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 4:56 pm The oligarchy isn’t following Trump. His base is the masses of deplorables. The oligarchs want someone less risky.
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IMO we are in a ‘face eating leopard’ management phase. The 1%’ers have had so much one sided winning in the past several years, I think they’re starting to realize the plebes are starting to notice and don’t like it.
I sound like a GD conspiracy theorist (which pisses me off) but it REALLY feels like we get these small wins (like the voting rights) along the way to ameliorate the pretty obvious and overwhelming monopolization of the country (literally and figuratively).
They control Trump, and he controls the leopard (or at least the leopard that’s easiest to mobilize and get riled up)
I sound like a GD conspiracy theorist (which pisses me off) but it REALLY feels like we get these small wins (like the voting rights) along the way to ameliorate the pretty obvious and overwhelming monopolization of the country (literally and figuratively).
They control Trump, and he controls the leopard (or at least the leopard that’s easiest to mobilize and get riled up)
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So much this imo.Holman wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 4:09 pm Trump offered them the sudden opportunity to harness populist bigotry in the direct service of oligarchy. All those judges Trump appointed won't do all that much to help Cletus hate on the Darkies, but they'll bend over backwards to gut regulations and distribute wealth upwards.
So far the .1% has done a pretty good job of riding the tiger.
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Even Trump apologist lawyer Jonathan Turley thinks this is very bad news for Trump:
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Meanwhile, this is happening. Cannon has the trial the whole way through barring a recusal (hah!). Could you imagine if Trump opts for a bench trial in front of her...because I just did.