Bethesda's Starfield

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:42 pm

naednek wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:44 pm Over 20 years ago, Morrowind came out and if you recall I heavily criticized the game. To be honest, in 2002, I wasn't into RPGs at all. But I was stubborn and dogged on it any chance I got. I liked games where it had a narrative and direction. Morrowind was an open world and you could do whatever you wanted.

Then Skyrim came out. During that time, my gaming preferences evolved and I enjoyed the game. Yes, the game was clunky and I struggled with not being hand held, but I was able to fifindnjoyment.

There are still some RPRPGs tried to get into, like the Divine Divinity series and while I can appreciate the amount of work and what the developer tried to do, it just didn't grab me. It's why I haven't tried BG3.

Well, I have stStarfieldreordered, and I'm excited. I still like my narrative games with direction, but I did enjoy games like faFalloutoo. I just know I have to be more patient with this genre.

yeah, whWhats going on heHere?

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:04 pm

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:11 pm

Skinypupy wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:45 pm
naednek wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:44 pm Then Skyrim came out. During that time, my gaming preferences evolved and I enjoyed the game. Yes, the game was clunky and I struggled with not being hand held, but I was able to fifindnjoyment.

There are still some RPRPGs tried to get into, like the Divine Divinity series and while I can appreciate the amount of work and what the developer tried to do, it just didn't grab me. It's why I haven't tried BG3.

Well, I have stStarfieldreordered, and I'm excited. I still like my narrative games with direction, but I did enjoy games like faFalloutoo. I just know I have to be more patient with this genre.
Do you smell toast?

damn, I installed gammarly. It made the changes

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:11 pm

I'm not going to edit because this is funny as shit.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:53 pm

naednek wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:11 pm I'm not going to edit because this is funny as shit.

Yeah, none of this is exactly a ringing endorsement for Grammarly...

jztemple2 · Post by **jztemple2** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:55 pm

naednek wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:11 pm damn, I installed gammarly. It made the changes

You kids and your newfangled toys. I might have to try it for yuks.

jztemple2 · Post by **jztemple2** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:58 pm

Hyena · Post by **Hyena** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:57 pm

Skinypupy wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:45 pm
naednek wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:44 pm Then Skyrim came out. During that time, my gaming preferences evolved and I enjoyed the game. Yes, the game was clunky and I struggled with not being hand held, but I was able to fifindnjoyment.

There are still some RPRPGs tried to get into, like the Divine Divinity series and while I can appreciate the amount of work and what the developer tried to do, it just didn't grab me. It's why I haven't tried BG3.

Well, I have stStarfieldreordered, and I'm excited. I still like my narrative games with direction, but I did enjoy games like faFalloutoo. I just know I have to be more patient with this genre.
Do you smell toast?

Ok, this got me. Not sure why, but I'm still chuckling, and everyone's followups are just as good.

On topic, I preordered on the first day, and I'll be playing as soon as I have it downloaded, finished with BG3 or not. Although I *do* still need to go buy an SSD. Any tips on that front in terms of SSD's?

jztemple2 · Post by **jztemple2** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:04 pm

Hyena wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:57 pm On topic, I preordered on the first day, and I'll be playing as soon as I have it downloaded, finished with BG3 or not. Although I *do* still need to go buy an SSD. Any tips on that front in terms of SSD's?

You might want to start a thread over on General Computing with some specifics. I've found that forum to be very helpful regarding hardware issues.

Hyena · Post by **Hyena** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:11 pm

jztemple2 wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:04 pm
Hyena wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:57 pm On topic, I preordered on the first day, and I'll be playing as soon as I have it downloaded, finished with BG3 or not. Although I *do* still need to go buy an SSD. Any tips on that front in terms of SSD's?
You might want to start a thread over on General Computing with some specifics. I've found that forum to be very helpful regarding hardware issues.

Ah. Good suggestion. Sorry if I opened up a can of derailment.

jztemple2 · Post by **jztemple2** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:14 pm

Hyena wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:11 pm
jztemple2 wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:04 pm
Hyena wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:57 pm On topic, I preordered on the first day, and I'll be playing as soon as I have it downloaded, finished with BG3 or not. Although I *do* still need to go buy an SSD. Any tips on that front in terms of SSD's?
You might want to start a thread over on General Computing with some specifics. I've found that forum to be very helpful regarding hardware issues.
Ah. Good suggestion. Sorry if I opened up a can of derailment.

No problem. There are folks over there who are not gamers but are pretty much gurus when it comes to computer hardware. Sadly it's been many a year since I kept up with the latest hardware trends

jztemple2 · Post by **jztemple2** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:46 pm

Oh baby, one week from right now for me!

Apollo · Post by **Apollo** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:45 pm

I have two disc drives, an SSD and a conventional hard drive, which is the one on which I have Steam installed. Is there any way to buy the game through Steam but have it install on a different hard drive?

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:03 am

Apollo wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:45 pm I have two disc drives, an SSD and a conventional hard drive, which is the one on which I have Steam installed. Is there any way to buy the game through Steam but have it install on a different hard drive?

Absolutely. I have Steam games installed on five different drives (one for regular games, one for group games, one for VR games, my OS drive for utilities, and a storage drive.) You just need to create additional Steam library folders. I believe it is done through the settings/downloads section, but a quick google will give you the details if I'm wrong.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:06 am

Actually, make that six drives - I have two for regular games (one is an M2 drive for higher-end games, the other a regular SSD for other games.)

And before someone asks, yes, I have a seventh drive (an 8TB platter drive) for regular non-game storage.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:00 am

Blackhawk wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:06 am Actually, make that six drives - I have two for regular games (one is an M2 drive for higher-end games, the other a regular SSD for other games.)

And before someone asks, yes, I have a seventh drive (an 8TB platter drive) for regular non-game storage.

Is there an eighth drive you are waiting for someone to ask about?

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:17 am

Unagi wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:00 am
Blackhawk wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:06 am Actually, make that six drives - I have two for regular games (one is an M2 drive for higher-end games, the other a regular SSD for other games.)

And before someone asks, yes, I have a seventh drive (an 8TB platter drive) for regular non-game storage.
Is there an eighth drive you are waiting for someone to ask about?

Well, since you asked...

No, it's just the seven. Any others are portable.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:03 pm

GQ interview Todd Howard and plays Starfield for 8 hours:

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/s ... -interview

It’s in the upper district of the city that you meet Constellation, the game’s Victorian-esque space explorer organisation and the main propellers of the central story. Outside their base, The Lodge – essentially an early-1920s-era Soho House, all chintz and log fires – there’s a whole raft of opportunities. I get distracted by a museum, where I catch up on three centuries of human history: a devastating Colony War, the fate of Earth, and the mystery of the Terrormorphs, the game’s main alien threat. Within 45 minutes I have 12 new quests leading me off-world. One has me smuggling contraband from the mining colony of Cydonia, on Mars, to gain the trust of the deadly Crimson Fleet. Smuggling is an entire subsection of the game, and Howard and Pagliarulo are particularly excited about the “Donnie Brasco vibe” of that questline. Another sends me to hunt space pirates in low gravity on the frozen plateaus of Europa. As I boost to huge heights using my rocket backpack, the combat has the responsive freneticism of something like Destiny rather than Fallout .

Gryndyl · Post by **Gryndyl** » Sat Aug 26, 2023 2:18 am

Apollo wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:45 pm I have two disc drives, an SSD and a conventional hard drive, which is the one on which I have Steam installed. Is there any way to buy the game through Steam but have it install on a different hard drive?

Steam->Settings->Storage. You can add drives there and choose install location/set default install

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:53 am

10 days until my sandwich empire begins!

Hyena · Post by **Hyena** » Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:32 pm

Ok, I thought I had ordered the premium package on Steam (PC) for the early access, but apparently I only ordered the standard "Preorder" for $75. Is there a way to upgrade to the Premium version for the extra $25-30?

jztemple2 · Post by **jztemple2** » Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:37 pm

Hyena wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:32 pm Ok, I thought I had ordered the premium package on Steam (PC) for the early access, but apparently I only ordered the standard "Preorder" for $75. Is there a way to upgrade to the Premium version for the extra $25-30?

I guess you could go to the Steam Support page and make the request there for a refund, as I don't see any upgrade option.

jztemple2 · Post by **jztemple2** » Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:39 pm

jztemple2 wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:19 pm Meanwhile I'm counting down the days till Starfield release and nervously waiting for God/Destiny/Fate/Random Chance to drop a cosmic joke on me, like a major hurricane or a motherboard meltdown

It's not quite a major hurricane (yet), but we've got one on the way...

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:40 pm

Hyena wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:32 pm Ok, I thought I had ordered the premium package on Steam (PC) for the early access, but apparently I only ordered the standard "Preorder" for $75. Is there a way to upgrade to the Premium version for the extra $25-30?

There doesn't seem to be a premium upgrade that I can see, but you should be able to refund the pre-order, then purchase the premium edition.

Hyena · Post by **Hyena** » Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:43 pm

Thanks for the replies, folks. Gonna do the refund/premium purchase thing.

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:11 am

It's getting hard to resist the closer we get.

I already have the free standard version through gamepass. I can't pay the difference to upgrade to premium unfortunately.
I'm very tempted to try to get the money to just buy the premi version but that's running into obstacles
I do have a free game voucher from a site that I frequent and I think it would cover the premium version at best or allow me to pay them the difference at worst for them to give me the premi version.
I was saving it for a rainy day but it super tempting to use it. I actually wanted to use it for BG3 but they only work with Humble Bundle and it's not even mentioned there.
They are also running a daily contest for a free premi version that I've tried every day with no luck for 2 months so far. IIRC they stop in release day.
Another reason I'm thinking on just use it now is that with my brain damage itis VERY possible that I completely forget that I have it and never use it.

I am playing my own run in BG3 on my friends laptop while he's at work, but I still have limited time with it due to therapy and other medical adventures

Ugh... choices...

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:12 am

Punisher wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:11 am It's getting hard to resist the closer we get.

I already have the free standard version through gamepass. I can't pay the difference to upgrade to premium unfortunately.
I'm very tempted to try to get the money to just buy the premi version but that's running into obstacles
I do have a free game voucher from a site that I frequent and I think it would cover the premium version at best or allow me to pay them the difference at worst for them to give me the premi version.
I was saving it for a rainy day but it super tempting to use it. I actually wanted to use it for BG3 but they only work with Humble Bundle and it's not even mentioned there.
They are also running a daily contest for a free premi version that I've tried every day with no luck for 2 months so far. IIRC they stop in release day.
Another reason I'm thinking on just use it now is that with my brain damage itis VERY possible that I completely forget that I have it and never use it.

I am playing my own run in BG3 on my friends laptop while he's at work, but I still have limited time with it due to therapy and other medical adventures

Ugh... choices...

What's the main thing that's making you really wish you had the premium version?

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:24 am

For anyone thinking about Game Pass:

Microsoft not only offers different tiers for Game Pass, but it used to offer a very simple way to try out the service: $1 would let you dive into its massive downloadable library for a month if you were a first-time user. But back in early August when Microsoft hiked the price of its most expensive Game Pass Ultimate service to $17 (Ultimate includes game streaming via the cloud), the company reduced the free trial to just 14 days. And now at the end of August, it would seem there’s no way to try the service out for any reduced amount or any amount of time. Ya gotta pay full price.

...

So while you’ll certainly be able to play Starfield on September 6 with Game Pass, you won’t be doing so via a free trial.

baelthazar · Post by **baelthazar** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:40 am

According to "CanIRunIt" I don't even meet the minimum requirements for Starfield.

Part of me wants to test it out, since I run BG3 fine at a pretty high level, but I also don't want to be out the money if I can't get a refund.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:04 pm

Unless there's something specific mentioned on the Steam page for Starfield, I can't imagine a situation where you'd be unable to refund a purchase. Outside of you "abusing" the refund system (in their eyes) with lots of requests, I think this is one of the remaining benefits of purchasing directly from them.

baelthazar · Post by **baelthazar** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:12 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:04 pm Unless there's something specific mentioned on the Steam page for Starfield, I can't imagine a situation where you'd be unable to refund a purchase. Outside of you "abusing" the refund system (in their eyes) with lots of requests, I think this is one of the remaining benefits of purchasing directly from them.

They don't start the refund clock until after the pre-order ends, right?

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:14 pm

baelthazar wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:12 pm
Smoove_B wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:04 pm Unless there's something specific mentioned on the Steam page for Starfield, I can't imagine a situation where you'd be unable to refund a purchase. Outside of you "abusing" the refund system (in their eyes) with lots of requests, I think this is one of the remaining benefits of purchasing directly from them.
They don't start the refund clock until after the pre-order ends, right?

Once the game launches, the two weeks/two hours policy kicks in.

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:51 pm

Unagi wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:12 am
Punisher wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:11 am It's getting hard to resist the closer we get.

I already have the free standard version through gamepass. I can't pay the difference to upgrade to premium unfortunately.
I'm very tempted to try to get the money to just buy the premi version but that's running into obstacles
I do have a free game voucher from a site that I frequent and I think it would cover the premium version at best or allow me to pay them the difference at worst for them to give me the premi version.
I was saving it for a rainy day but it super tempting to use it. I actually wanted to use it for BG3 but they only work with Humble Bundle and it's not even mentioned there.
They are also running a daily contest for a free premi version that I've tried every day with no luck for 2 months so far. IIRC they stop in release day.
Another reason I'm thinking on just use it now is that with my brain damage itis VERY possible that I completely forget that I have it and never use it.

I am playing my own run in BG3 on my friends laptop while he's at work, but I still have limited time with it due to therapy and other medical adventures

Ugh... choices...
What's the main thing that's making you really wish you had the premium version?

Mostly the early access.
I have too much time on my hands so if I remember that the game came out but I still have to wait a week to play it will dig into my mind and there's not much left there to distract me.

jztemple2 · Post by **jztemple2** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:55 pm

baelthazar wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:40 am According to "CanIRunIt"...

How did I not know about this website?

I get mightily confused with all the GPU and CPU levels nowadays, this just makes it so much simpler.

The only games it says I can't run at the recommended at Immortals of Aveum (don't care), Saints Row 2022 (hmm), Forza Motorsport

and Cities: Skylines 2

gbasden · Post by **gbasden** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:09 pm

I think they are on crack. There is no way that Forza or Cities:Skylines 2 are not going to run on an I9-10850K and a GTX 3080. That's better than 90% of the rigs out there.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:09 pm

jztemple2 wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:55 pm
baelthazar wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:40 am According to "CanIRunIt"...
How did I not know about this website? I get mightily confused with all the GPU and CPU levels nowadays, this just makes it so much simpler.

The only games it says I can't run at the recommended at Immortals of Aveum (don't care), Saints Row 2022 (hmm), Forza Motorsport and Cities: Skylines 2

link?

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:13 pm

jztemple2 wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:55 pm The only games it says I can't run at the recommended ... Saints Row 2022 (hmm)

Your hardware is better than mine, and I can run Saints Row just fine, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

jztemple2 · Post by **jztemple2** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:14 pm

Unagi wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:09 pm
jztemple2 wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:55 pm
baelthazar wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:40 am According to "CanIRunIt"...
How did I not know about this website? I get mightily confused with all the GPU and CPU levels nowadays, this just makes it so much simpler.

The only games it says I can't run at the recommended at Immortals of Aveum (don't care), Saints Row 2022 (hmm), Forza Motorsport and Cities: Skylines 2
link?

Link, or just search "CanIRunIt"

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:18 pm

Ah, yeah - I saw that (and a couple of other hits) in the search result and assumed that wasn't it since it sounded like it would be called something like "CanIRunIt".

Thank you!

jztemple2 · Post by **jztemple2** » Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:18 pm

Max Peck wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:13 pm
jztemple2 wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:55 pm The only games it says I can't run at the recommended ... Saints Row 2022 (hmm)
Your hardware is better than mine, and I can run Saints Row just fine, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm wondering if the game can auto check the VRAM and adjust how it uses it. Ghost Recon Wildlands IIRC actually showed a current VRAM usage bar and it changed as you turned on or off certain video settings. That would be handy. Also I imagine that one's fps and resolution settings would effect that too.

I always thought that 10GB VRAM I have was kind of a wonky amount