Random randomness

Everything else!

Moderators: EvilHomer3k, Bakhtosh

User avatar
Unagi
Posts: 28408
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Random randomness

Post by Unagi »

Holman wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 5:29 pm
Unagi wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:30 pm or to be silly (and not in the spirit of the question really), I would maybe say:

Gaia
Cthulhu
Yahweh
I think of each of these precludes the existence of the others.
when I can pick from anywhere in space and time, I don't think there is such thing as 'preclude'.

But, it was indeed my 'silly' answer that I don't think was in the spirit of the question.
User avatar
Kraken
Posts: 45331
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:59 pm
Location: The Hub of the Universe
Contact:

Re: Random randomness

Post by Kraken »

I have this ancient butterfly sponge mop whose head has disintegrated. The brand name is Quickie, and it says "Use replacement type H" right on it. How very helpful! Do you think I can find Quickie type H refills anywhere? No I cannot, after trying for 20 minutes. Looks like Ima have to buy a whole new mop. They aren't expensive; I just hate to throw away a perfectly good handle and squeeze mechanism. The replacement's attachment nuts have to fit into a molded recess, so I can't even drill new holes to fit the now-ubiquitous Type S. (sigh) New mop it is.
User avatar
Daehawk
Posts: 66015
Joined: Sat Jan 01, 2005 1:11 am

Re: Random randomness

Post by Daehawk »

Never had a butterfly sponge mop. My sponge mops tend to sit so long between uses that they become hard or start to crumble apart over time and I get bits left everywhere.

BTW are sponges even sponged any longer? Like from living stuff in the sea? Ive thought they've been artificially made for decades now.
--------------------------------------------
I am Dyslexic of Borg, prepare to have your ass laminated.
I guess Ray Butts has ate his last pancake.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/daehawk
"Has high IQ. Refuses to apply it"
When in doubt, skewer it out...I don't know.
User avatar
Kraken
Posts: 45331
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:59 pm
Location: The Hub of the Universe
Contact:

Re: Random randomness

Post by Kraken »

Sponges are cellulose. Nowadays the kids are buying polypropylene.
User avatar
Holman
Posts: 30158
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 8:00 pm
Location: Between the Schuylkill and the Wissahickon

Re: Random randomness

Post by Holman »

Unagi wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 5:36 pm
Holman wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 5:29 pm
Unagi wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:30 pm or to be silly (and not in the spirit of the question really), I would maybe say:

Gaia
Cthulhu
Yahweh
I think of each of these precludes the existence of the others.
when I can pick from anywhere in space and time, I don't think there is such thing as 'preclude'.

But, it was indeed my 'silly' answer that I don't think was in the spirit of the question.
My comment was offered in the spirit of sillytheology!
Much prefer my Nazis Nuremberged.
User avatar
Max Peck
Posts: 15421
Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:09 pm
Location: Down the Rabbit-Hole

Re: Random randomness

Post by Max Peck »

Kraken wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:07 pm I have this ancient butterfly sponge mop whose head has disintegrated. The brand name is Quickie, and it says "Use replacement type H" right on it. How very helpful! Do you think I can find Quickie type H refills anywhere? No I cannot, after trying for 20 minutes. Looks like Ima have to buy a whole new mop. They aren't expensive; I just hate to throw away a perfectly good handle and squeeze mechanism. The replacement's attachment nuts have to fit into a molded recess, so I can't even drill new holes to fit the now-ubiquitous Type S. (sigh) New mop it is.
This one? Ace claims to carry it.
"What? What? What?" -- The 14th Doctor

It's not enough to be a good player... you also have to play well. -- Siegbert Tarrasch
User avatar
Kraken
Posts: 45331
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:59 pm
Location: The Hub of the Universe
Contact:

Re: Random randomness

Post by Kraken »

Max Peck wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 9:39 pm
Kraken wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:07 pm I have this ancient butterfly sponge mop whose head has disintegrated. The brand name is Quickie, and it says "Use replacement type H" right on it. How very helpful! Do you think I can find Quickie type H refills anywhere? No I cannot, after trying for 20 minutes. Looks like Ima have to buy a whole new mop. They aren't expensive; I just hate to throw away a perfectly good handle and squeeze mechanism. The replacement's attachment nuts have to fit into a molded recess, so I can't even drill new holes to fit the now-ubiquitous Type S. (sigh) New mop it is.
This one? Ace claims to carry it.
Looks like that's the elusive type H, based on the photo (text doesn't say). Unfortunately, it's pickup-only from a store 12 miles away in a direction I don't routinely go, so I won't find out. I'm not THAT devoted to my mop handle. :lol:
User avatar
Blackhawk
Posts: 46311
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:48 pm
Location: Southwest Indiana

Re: Random randomness

Post by Blackhawk »

Here's the page. They have a 'where to buy' button.

Both Walmart and Amazon list them, but they're both out of stock. That could mean that it's no longer in production - it may be time for a new mop. Don't worry, though, you'll get a more modern one where you don't have to worry about the head disintegrating (the mop will break well before that happens.)
What doesn't kill me makes me stranger.
User avatar
Daehawk
Posts: 66015
Joined: Sat Jan 01, 2005 1:11 am

Re: Random randomness

Post by Daehawk »

If you could travel at near light speed the time passage on Earth compared to you would really depend on just how close you could get to lightspeed....little increases mean big time passes.

How many years would pass if you travel at the speed of light for 1 year?
At 99.99 percent of the speed of light, a craft traveling for one year would come back to a world that had aged more than 70 years in their absence. At 99.99999 percent of the speed of light, for a year, more than 2000 years would pass on Earth.

Still thats all time travel in a way into the future. Theres no going backwards in time that we know of. I wonder why time is so linear. Then again time itself is a perceived human thing made up by us.
--------------------------------------------
I am Dyslexic of Borg, prepare to have your ass laminated.
I guess Ray Butts has ate his last pancake.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/daehawk
"Has high IQ. Refuses to apply it"
When in doubt, skewer it out...I don't know.
User avatar
Blackhawk
Posts: 46311
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:48 pm
Location: Southwest Indiana

Re: Random randomness

Post by Blackhawk »

Human senses and minds are limited. We see the universe around us through human eyes, and assume that the universe conforms to what we can understand. But we developed inside the universe - it didn't form around us, based on our needs.

Just because we experience time linearly doesn't mean that it's linear (or even that it's time.) We're the 2d being looking at a sphere and thinking it's a circle.
What doesn't kill me makes me stranger.
User avatar
Kraken
Posts: 45331
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:59 pm
Location: The Hub of the Universe
Contact:

Re: Random randomness

Post by Kraken »

Blackhawk wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:17 am Here's the page. They have a 'where to buy' button.

Both Walmart and Amazon list them, but they're both out of stock. That could mean that it's no longer in production - it may be time for a new mop. Don't worry, though, you'll get a more modern one where you don't have to worry about the head disintegrating (the mop will break well before that happens.)
Yeah, I already struck out with their where-to-buy page. Ima buy me a 21st century mop. It's time.
User avatar
Kraken
Posts: 45331
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:59 pm
Location: The Hub of the Universe
Contact:

Re: Random randomness

Post by Kraken »

Daehawk wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:22 am I wonder why time is so linear. Then again time itself is a perceived human thing made up by us.
Entropy. Eggs never unscramble themselves, nor does bacon move from your belly to your plate.
User avatar
Max Peck
Posts: 15421
Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:09 pm
Location: Down the Rabbit-Hole

Re: Random randomness

Post by Max Peck »

Kraken wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:53 am nor does bacon move from your belly to your plate.
Technically it can do that, but it's never a good thing when it happens.
"What? What? What?" -- The 14th Doctor

It's not enough to be a good player... you also have to play well. -- Siegbert Tarrasch
User avatar
stessier
Posts: 30212
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:30 pm
Location: SC

Re: Random randomness

Post by stessier »

Kraken wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:53 am
Daehawk wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:22 am I wonder why time is so linear. Then again time itself is a perceived human thing made up by us.
Entropy. Eggs never unscramble themselves, nor does bacon move from your belly to your plate.
Are you sure?

I require a reminder as to why raining arcane destruction is not an appropriate response to all of life's indignities. - Vaarsuvius
Global Steam Wishmaslist Tracking
Running____2014: 1300.55 miles____2015: 2036.13 miles____2016: 1012.75 miles____2017: 1105.82 miles____2018: 1318.91 miles__2019: 2000.00 miles
User avatar
Smoove_B
Posts: 56463
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:58 am
Location: Kaer Morhen

Re: Random randomness

Post by Smoove_B »

Daehawk wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:22 am Then again time itself is a perceived human thing made up by us.
Tempus est umbra in mente
Maybe next year, maybe no go
User avatar
Unagi
Posts: 28408
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Random randomness

Post by Unagi »

Daehawk wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:22 am I wonder why time is so linear.
What a strangely phrased question.

Isn’t time just linear. Are there degrees of being linear?

OMG time, you are like -so- linear.

Is there an amount of linear that wouldn’t have been remarkable, but time is just so linear it needs to explain itself?



Also, I don’t think time is a human construct any more than gravity or mass is.
User avatar
Unagi
Posts: 28408
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Random randomness

Post by Unagi »

stessier wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:17 am
Kraken wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:53 am
Daehawk wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:22 am I wonder why time is so linear. Then again time itself is a perceived human thing made up by us.
Entropy. Eggs never unscramble themselves, nor does bacon move from your belly to your plate.
Are you sure?

That’s really just about the idea of infinity.
User avatar
ImLawBoy
Forum Admin
Posts: 15476
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:49 pm
Location: Chicago, IL
Contact:

Re: Random randomness

Post by ImLawBoy »

Time is a flat circle.
That's my purse! I don't know you!
User avatar
Daehawk
Posts: 66015
Joined: Sat Jan 01, 2005 1:11 am

Re: Random randomness

Post by Daehawk »

ImLawBoy wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:23 am Time is a flat circle.
One of those flat circle people huh? What about the hollow circle people?
--------------------------------------------
I am Dyslexic of Borg, prepare to have your ass laminated.
I guess Ray Butts has ate his last pancake.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/daehawk
"Has high IQ. Refuses to apply it"
When in doubt, skewer it out...I don't know.
User avatar
Unagi
Posts: 28408
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Random randomness

Post by Unagi »

ImLawBoy wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:23 am Time is a flat circle.
But why is it so flat.
User avatar
ImLawBoy
Forum Admin
Posts: 15476
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:49 pm
Location: Chicago, IL
Contact:

Re: Random randomness

Post by ImLawBoy »

Unagi wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:48 am
ImLawBoy wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:23 am Time is a flat circle.
But why is it so flat.
Ask McConaughey.
That's my purse! I don't know you!
User avatar
stessier
Posts: 30212
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:30 pm
Location: SC

Re: Random randomness

Post by stessier »

Unagi wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:59 am
stessier wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:17 am
Kraken wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:53 am
Daehawk wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:22 am I wonder why time is so linear. Then again time itself is a perceived human thing made up by us.
Entropy. Eggs never unscramble themselves, nor does bacon move from your belly to your plate.
Are you sure?

/snipped youtube vid/
That’s really just about the idea of infinity.
True, but given what we don't know about the universe, just how sure are we that it's not infinite and they won't unscramble?
I require a reminder as to why raining arcane destruction is not an appropriate response to all of life's indignities. - Vaarsuvius
Global Steam Wishmaslist Tracking
Running____2014: 1300.55 miles____2015: 2036.13 miles____2016: 1012.75 miles____2017: 1105.82 miles____2018: 1318.91 miles__2019: 2000.00 miles
User avatar
LordMortis
Posts: 72014
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:26 pm

Re: Random randomness

Post by LordMortis »

stessier wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:34 am
Unagi wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:59 am
stessier wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:17 am
Kraken wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:53 am
Daehawk wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:22 am I wonder why time is so linear. Then again time itself is a perceived human thing made up by us.
Entropy. Eggs never unscramble themselves, nor does bacon move from your belly to your plate.
Are you sure?

/snipped youtube vid/
That’s really just about the idea of infinity.
True, but given what we don't know about the universe, just how sure are we that it's not infinite and they won't unscramble?

“Curiously enough, the only thing that went through the mind of the bowl of petunias as it fell was Oh no, not again. Many people have speculated that if we knew exactly why the bowl of petunias had thought that we would know a lot more about the nature of the Universe than we do now.”
User avatar
Unagi
Posts: 28408
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Random randomness

Post by Unagi »

stessier wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:34 am
Unagi wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:59 am
stessier wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:17 am
Kraken wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:53 am
Daehawk wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:22 am I wonder why time is so linear. Then again time itself is a perceived human thing made up by us.
Entropy. Eggs never unscramble themselves, nor does bacon move from your belly to your plate.
Are you sure?

/snipped youtube vid/
That’s really just about the idea of infinity.
True, but given what we don't know about the universe, just how sure are we that it's not infinite and they won't unscramble?
It’s fine to understand the eggs -may- unscramble, but when that also lives with equal chances that they -may- become an iPhone, it’s just not as meaningful.

In other words, scrambled eggs don’t really stand a chance of being “unscrambled”, they just stand a chance to become any other object at all - and that includes an egg and an iPhone.

It’s not reverse entropy. It’s just more entropy, to the infinite extreme.
User avatar
Smoove_B
Posts: 56463
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:58 am
Location: Kaer Morhen

Re: Random randomness

Post by Smoove_B »

Wandered into random randomness, ended up in the "Whatcha smokin'?" thread.
Maybe next year, maybe no go
User avatar
stessier
Posts: 30212
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:30 pm
Location: SC

Re: Random randomness

Post by stessier »

Unagi wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:55 am
stessier wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:34 am
Unagi wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:59 am
stessier wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:17 am
Kraken wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:53 am
Daehawk wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:22 am I wonder why time is so linear. Then again time itself is a perceived human thing made up by us.
Entropy. Eggs never unscramble themselves, nor does bacon move from your belly to your plate.
Are you sure?

/snipped youtube vid/
That’s really just about the idea of infinity.
True, but given what we don't know about the universe, just how sure are we that it's not infinite and they won't unscramble?
It’s fine to understand the eggs -may- unscramble, but when that also lives with equal chances that they -may- become an iPhone, it’s just not as meaningful.

In other words, scrambled eggs don’t really stand a chance of being “unscrambled”, they just stand a chance to become any other object at all - and that includes an egg and an iPhone.

It’s not reverse entropy. It’s just more entropy, to the infinite extreme.
Not really entropy. Entropy is an increase in disorder. Either of your options is more ordered than what you started with. And it really couldn't turn into an iPhone as it doesn't have the necessary parts to do it (assuming we are only concentrating on what started as scrambled eggs).
I require a reminder as to why raining arcane destruction is not an appropriate response to all of life's indignities. - Vaarsuvius
Global Steam Wishmaslist Tracking
Running____2014: 1300.55 miles____2015: 2036.13 miles____2016: 1012.75 miles____2017: 1105.82 miles____2018: 1318.91 miles__2019: 2000.00 miles
User avatar
stessier
Posts: 30212
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:30 pm
Location: SC

Re: Random randomness

Post by stessier »

Smoove_B wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:03 pm Wandered into random randomness, ended up in the "Whatcha smokin'?" thread.
Meh, it's a way to pass a random Thursday. :D
I require a reminder as to why raining arcane destruction is not an appropriate response to all of life's indignities. - Vaarsuvius
Global Steam Wishmaslist Tracking
Running____2014: 1300.55 miles____2015: 2036.13 miles____2016: 1012.75 miles____2017: 1105.82 miles____2018: 1318.91 miles__2019: 2000.00 miles
User avatar
Unagi
Posts: 28408
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Random randomness

Post by Unagi »

Smoove_B wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:03 pm Wandered into random randomness, ended up in the "Whatcha smokin'?" thread.
Man, even the Random randomness thread isn't safe these days.

I'll try to curb my apparent desire for conversation.
User avatar
Smoove_B
Posts: 56463
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:58 am
Location: Kaer Morhen

Re: Random randomness

Post by Smoove_B »

?

In a thread about random randomness, I wasn't expecting a discussion on the nature of time. What's next, the origin of consciousness in a post-bicameral mind?

Regardless, there was a quote by Douglas Adams, which is always a winner.
Maybe next year, maybe no go
User avatar
TheMix
Posts: 11366
Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:19 pm
Location: Broomfield, Colorado

Re: Random randomness

Post by TheMix »

Smoove_B wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:51 pm Regardless, there was a quote by Douglas Adams, which is always a winner.
:text-+1:

Black Lives Matter

Isgrimnur - Facebook makes you hate your friends and family. LinkedIn makes you hate you co-workers. NextDoor makes you hate your neighbors.
User avatar
Isgrimnur
Posts: 85376
Joined: Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:29 am
Location: Chookity pok
Contact:

Re: Random randomness

Post by Isgrimnur »



Time is an illusion. Lunchtime, doubly so.
It's almost as if people are the problem.
User avatar
Jaymon
Posts: 3056
Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:51 pm

Re: Random randomness

Post by Jaymon »

This time will be different
This time will be right
And so I say
Let there be light.
Bunnies like beer because its made from hops.
User avatar
jztemple2
Posts: 12723
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:52 am
Location: Brevard County, Florida, USA

Re: Random randomness

Post by jztemple2 »

Today is my actual 70th birthday day, so I got my final presents. First another tank top:

Enlarge Image

There were also a romantic card :o and a set of blow up flamingos for the pool with built in lights. I don't have pics of those as it isn't yet night and I have yet to blow up the other two, the first already being in the pool.

Finally, as we were leaving for lunch, I found the final surprise:

Enlarge Image

Enlarge Image

It would have been a perfect day except my car wouldn't start :? so we took the wife's car. Happily after we got home I was able to use my battery jumper device to convince myself that it was just the car battery that failed and so I ran down to the parts store and got a new one, then installed it myself. My wife pointed out to me afterwards that I could have just had them install it, but what's the fun in that :D.

We are off to dinner in my car so we'll see if I'm a hero or a zero with the battery change-out.
My father said that anything is interesting if you bother to read about it - Michael C. Harrold
User avatar
TheMix
Posts: 11366
Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:19 pm
Location: Broomfield, Colorado

Re: Random randomness

Post by TheMix »

Happy flocking Birthday!

Black Lives Matter

Isgrimnur - Facebook makes you hate your friends and family. LinkedIn makes you hate you co-workers. NextDoor makes you hate your neighbors.
User avatar
Blackhawk
Posts: 46311
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:48 pm
Location: Southwest Indiana

Re: Random randomness

Post by Blackhawk »

Get the flock out of here!

Happy Birthday.
What doesn't kill me makes me stranger.
User avatar
Daehawk
Posts: 66015
Joined: Sat Jan 01, 2005 1:11 am

Re: Random randomness

Post by Daehawk »

Happy Bday sir!
--------------------------------------------
I am Dyslexic of Borg, prepare to have your ass laminated.
I guess Ray Butts has ate his last pancake.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/daehawk
"Has high IQ. Refuses to apply it"
When in doubt, skewer it out...I don't know.
User avatar
Isgrimnur
Posts: 85376
Joined: Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:29 am
Location: Chookity pok
Contact:

Re: Random randomness

Post by Isgrimnur »

jztemple2 wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:48 pm another tank top:
Sun's out, guns out! We need a pic of you flexing.
It's almost as if people are the problem.
User avatar
Unagi
Posts: 28408
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Random randomness

Post by Unagi »

Where Jz goes, flamingos.

Happy Birthday, you old flock.
User avatar
Unagi
Posts: 28408
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Random randomness

Post by Unagi »

Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:44 pm Sun's out, guns out!
OMFG that had me in stitches for some reason.
User avatar
Pyperkub
Posts: 24316
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:07 pm
Location: NC- that's Northern California

Re: Random randomness

Post by Pyperkub »

Happy Birthday, and good luck at/after dinner!
Black Lives definitely Matter Lorini!

Also: There are three ways to not tell the truth: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
Post Reply