Capitol Riot Investigation Thread

Fireball · Post by **Fireball** » Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:34 pm

As someone who spent hours on January 6 locked inside a secure room while garbage people defiled the Capitol, vandalized the halls of democracy and ended our 156-year long streak of peaceful transfers of power between political parties, there is nothing I enjoy more than a headline announcing that another one of those traitors has been sentenced to prison.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:54 pm

I like how it's been almost a month since this thread had any activity. Because there are other things more insane than the 1/6 insurrection.

Anyway, "Bullhorn lady" was just sentenced to 57 months in prison:

U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth had convicted Rachel Marie Powell on all nine counts in July. She was convicted of obstruction of an official proceeding, destruction of government property, entering a restricted area with a weapon and engaging in violence on Capitol grounds.

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She provided “very detailed instructions” of the layout of the Capitol to several others. If the group were to overtake the building they would need to “coordinate together,” video shows Powell saying.

More video and photo evidence showed Powell using a “large pipe as a ramming device” to breach the windows of the Capitol. She is overheard saying they “have another window to break.”

So what does that earn you?

Powell was asking for three years of probation, WUSA9 reported. Lamberth imposed a sentence of 57 months in prison, followed by 36 months on supervised release and ordered Powell pay $2,753 in restitution and a $5,000 fine.

Better luck next time, grandma.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:37 am

Fireball wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:34 pm As someone who spent hours on January 6 locked inside a secure room while garbage people defiled the Capitol, vandalized the halls of democracy and ended our 156-year long streak of peaceful transfers of power between political parties, there is nothing I enjoy more than a headline announcing that another one of those traitors has been sentenced to prison.

You may want to consider changing your avatar...it is DANGEROUSLY close to another member's whose ideas are a bit...toxic, let's say. I've done a few double takes thinking a post was yours that was his, and vice versa.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:51 am

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:37 am You may want to consider changing your avatar...it is DANGEROUSLY close to another member's whose ideas are a bit...toxic, let's say. I've done a few double takes thinking a post was yours that was his, and vice versa.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:55 pm

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:52 pm

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:20 pm

Um, you brought it to their front door first, butthandle.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:30 pm

When violent overthrow doesn't work, try a democratic political solution?

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:06 pm

He makes Fetterman look like a clotheshorse.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:39 pm

“Judge Paul Friedman of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia ordered GossJankowski jailed for a series of recent doxxing threats targeting federal agents. Moments later, GossJankowski stood and fought with agents who tried to handcuff him and take him into custody.”

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/vitali ... m-hearing/

“Prosecutors had asked a judge to jail him immediately ahead of sentencing, due to a series of threatening Instagram posts in which GossJankowski allegedly targeted and released private information about FBI employees.”

This guy is going to do more time.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:52 am

I'm sure that helped his case.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:34 am

What is a GossJankowski?!

Sounds horrific.

Anti-hyphen naming convention?
Brand of electron microscope?
Newly discovered comet?

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:49 pm

Goss is a Saxon surname meaning "goose". Jankowski means someone from Janków, Jankowo, or Jankowice. Over thirty place names with 'Jankow' (derived from Jan (John)) as a prefix remain in modern Poland.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:50 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:49 pm Goss is a Saxon surname meaning "goose". Jankowski means someone from Janków, Jankowo, or Jankowice. Over thirty place names with 'Jankow' (derived from Jan (John)) as a prefix remain in modern Poland.

Fine, but smashing them both together like that is just weird. Would a hyphen kill a brother?

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:52 pm

It's Polish. You're lucky you get vowels.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:59 pm

A result of the Welsh Vowel Raids of 1066.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:01 pm

The Dutch benefited mightily from being the ports of debarkation.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 2:59 pm

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:59 pm A result of the Welsh Vowel Raids of 1066.

Ha! I get that!

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed Nov 01, 2023 7:52 pm

Two months for Princeton grad:

Giberson was a sophomore political science major at Princeton in January 2021, and since his graduation in May, he has the capability of appreciating the Jan. 6 attack and the implications of his involvement, a government prosecutor wrote in a presentence report arguing for nearly a year in prison.

“Giberson’s criminal conduct on January 6 was the epitome of disrespect for the law,” the prosecutor, Assistant U. S. Attorney Stephen J. Rancourt, argued.

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Giberson, in his presentence interviews, was wildly inconsistent with his descriptions of events that day when viewed with how they actually occurred, Rancourt wrote. For example, he said his presence at the tunnel was to, “you know, be a more calming presence, or to help calm the crowd down.”

And in his account of a police officer – who was dragged and assaulted – Giberson said the officer was carried away “peacefully,” Rancourt wrote.

“While it is true that Giberson accepted responsibility for his criminal conduct by pleading guilty ... it is troubling that several of Giberson’s statements to the investigators are inconsistent with the video evidence documenting Giberson’s conduct at the Capitol on January 6,” Rancourt wrote.

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As a felon, Giberson’s plans to attend law school are already in jeopardy, so sending him to jail would not serve justice, his lawyer argued. Burnham also mentioned his youth.

He should call Kyle Rittenhouse; he seems to be doing alright.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:15 am

Peaceful my a**:

“ According to evidence introduced at trial, Sheppard was among the first rioters to enter the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, and joined others in overrunning multiple police lines established to stop the mob’s spread. Inside the Crypt, he and fellow rioters were captured on video as they pushed through a police line designed to prevent the mob from moving towards the House Chamber where members of Congress were present. He then recorded a video of himself proudly proclaiming: “I’m here with some goddamn heroes, and we just shut down Congress! They called an emergency session, they said we’re too scared, they’ve shut down Congress. Let’s fucking go!””

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/ohio ... tol-breach

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:22 am

This isn’t really a part of the Jan 6 investigation, but it did occur at that time:

I always considered her one of the most annoying and obnoxious of Trump’s defenders. I couldn’t stand to watch her every time she appeared on CNN.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:36 am

Grifman wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:15 am
Peaceful my a**:

He also hasn't been fighting the charges for 3 years

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:08 am

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 7:52 pm Two months for Princeton grad:

Giberson was a sophomore political science major at Princeton in January 2021, and since his graduation in May, he has the capability of appreciating the Jan. 6 attack and the implications of his involvement, a government prosecutor wrote in a presentence report arguing for nearly a year in prison.

“Giberson’s criminal conduct on January 6 was the epitome of disrespect for the law,” the prosecutor, Assistant U. S. Attorney Stephen J. Rancourt, argued.

...

Giberson, in his presentence interviews, was wildly inconsistent with his descriptions of events that day when viewed with how they actually occurred, Rancourt wrote. For example, he said his presence at the tunnel was to, “you know, be a more calming presence, or to help calm the crowd down.”

And in his account of a police officer – who was dragged and assaulted – Giberson said the officer was carried away “peacefully,” Rancourt wrote.

“While it is true that Giberson accepted responsibility for his criminal conduct by pleading guilty ... it is troubling that several of Giberson’s statements to the investigators are inconsistent with the video evidence documenting Giberson’s conduct at the Capitol on January 6,” Rancourt wrote.

...

As a felon, Giberson’s plans to attend law school are already in jeopardy, so sending him to jail would not serve justice, his lawyer argued. Burnham also mentioned his youth.
He should call Kyle Rittenhouse; he seems to be doing alright.

Kid was a 1st gen Princeton grad and threw it all away for Trump. I just don't get these people at all.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Fri Nov 03, 2023 1:10 pm

Octavious wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:08 am
Smoove_B wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 7:52 pm Two months for Princeton grad:

Giberson was a sophomore political science major at Princeton in January 2021, and since his graduation in May, he has the capability of appreciating the Jan. 6 attack and the implications of his involvement, a government prosecutor wrote in a presentence report arguing for nearly a year in prison.

“Giberson’s criminal conduct on January 6 was the epitome of disrespect for the law,” the prosecutor, Assistant U. S. Attorney Stephen J. Rancourt, argued.

...

Giberson, in his presentence interviews, was wildly inconsistent with his descriptions of events that day when viewed with how they actually occurred, Rancourt wrote. For example, he said his presence at the tunnel was to, “you know, be a more calming presence, or to help calm the crowd down.”

And in his account of a police officer – who was dragged and assaulted – Giberson said the officer was carried away “peacefully,” Rancourt wrote.

“While it is true that Giberson accepted responsibility for his criminal conduct by pleading guilty ... it is troubling that several of Giberson’s statements to the investigators are inconsistent with the video evidence documenting Giberson’s conduct at the Capitol on January 6,” Rancourt wrote.

...

As a felon, Giberson’s plans to attend law school are already in jeopardy, so sending him to jail would not serve justice, his lawyer argued. Burnham also mentioned his youth.
He should call Kyle Rittenhouse; he seems to be doing alright.
Kid was a 1st gen Princeton grad and threw it all away for Trump. I just don't get these people at all.

Yeah, I can sort of understand an unemployed smooth-brain with nothing to lose being gullible, but you would think a Princeton boy would have sufficient gray matter.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Nov 03, 2023 1:24 pm

Doubly so, since:

Princeton considers the children or stepchildren of graduate and undergraduate alumni to be legacy applicants. According to data from Princeton in 2018, over 30 percent of applicants with a legacy connection are admitted, compared to less than five percent overall.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:00 am

This guy is doing some hard time:

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:24 am

Eastman closer to losing law license:

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/0 ... e-00125219

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:50 am

Grifman wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:24 am Eastman closer to losing law license:

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/0 ... e-00125219

Good. Still claims election was stolen after everything…gah. And perhaps unsurprising:

“veteran conservative attorney who once clerked for Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas,”

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:18 pm

Hilarious:

A New York man who is running for the congressional seat previously held by George Santos was convicted this week of charges relating to the Jan. 6 riot after he testified at his trial that he didn't know Congress convened inside the Capitol.

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His lawyers didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment on Tuesday's conviction. Grillo hasn’t yet been sentenced. A spokesperson for the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia, which took part in prosecuting the case, declined to comment.

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Grillo in May filed as a candidate for New York’s 3rd Congressional District seat — the seat Santos, a Republican, held until his expulsion from the House last week following a scathing Ethics Committee report. The Justice Department noted that during his trial, Grillo testified that he had “no idea” that Congress convened inside the Capitol.

It wasn’t immediately clear whether Grillo will also be a candidate in the Feb. 13 special election for the seat.

Not sure if the conviction makes him more qualified for Santos' seat.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:44 pm

This seems kind of big-

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... lan-trump/

This development was anticipated by some of those engaged in explicit violence. In private chats from the days before the riot, members of the right-wing group Proud Boys discussed whether “the normies” — that is, other protesters — and other attendees were “going to push through police lines and storm the capitol buildings.” On the day of the riot, members of the group engaged to “ril[e] up the normies.” The thousands of people who walked from President Donald Trump’s speech south of the White House to the Capitol that day were a force multiplier.

I wonder how this is just coming to light.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:33 am

Hundreds of convictions, but a major mystery is still unsolved 3 years after the Jan. 6 Capitol riot

Dozens of people believed to have assaulted law enforcement during the riot have yet to be identified by authorities, according to [Matthew Graves, the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia]. And the statute of limitations for the crimes is five years, which means they would have to be charged by Jan. 6, 2026, he said.
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One of the biggest remaining mysteries surrounding the riot is the identity of the person who placed two pipe bombs outside the offices of the Republican and Democratic national committees the day before the Capitol attack.
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Video released by the FBI shows a person in a gray hooded sweatshirt, a face mask and gloves appearing to place one of the explosives under a bench outside the DNC and separately shows the person walking in an alley near the RNC before the bomb was placed there. The person wore black and light gray Nike Air Max Speed Turf sneakers with a yellow logo.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:42 am

That REALLY seems like a planned distraction to keep authorities preoccupied while the ‘Unpleasantness’ was happening.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:49 am

Yes, I'm genuinely surprised that it hasn't been solved yet. And unless they're secretly keeping information withheld so they can charge more than one person, it feels like the time to announce it has been figured out has long passed.

em2nought · Post by **em2nought** » Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:10 am

Happy Insurrection Day! Here are ten great ways to celebrate

https://babylonbee.com/news/10-great-wa ... -this-year

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:08 am

Good analytical piece by the Washington Post which discusses that the Federal judiciary is being significantly more lenient than in the general case of all federal convictions.

The piece is pretty good all around but has a major, major gap in my opinion. They consider the defense counsel arguments there was overcharging and the sentencing reflects that, they say the judges often skew between the recommendation and the minimum, and the US attorneys office says they think their recommendations are appropriate but acknowledge it is unusual. The oversight IMO is that These convictions are against generally older, white, richer defendants. Do we believe if a black or brown group stormed the Capitol they'd be getting lenient sentencing like this?

Judges have ordered prison time for nearly every defendant convicted of a felony and some jail time to about half of those convicted of misdemeanors.

But in the vast majority of the more than 700 sentencings to date, judges have issued punishments below government guidelines and prosecutors’ requests. Though more than 60 percent of the defendants sentenced so far have received jail or prison terms, the judges have gone below federal sentencing guidelines in 67 percent of the cases, Post data shows. Nationally, federal judges go below the advisory guidelines about 51 percent of the time, according to federal statistics.

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Prosecutors in Jan. 6 cases have typically called for sentences in the middle of the guideline ranges, occasionally seeking a “high-end sentence” for severe cases. But the judges have only accepted the prosecutors’ recommendations in 10 percent of sentencings, while going below the recommendations in 86 percent of felony cases.

“I think what we are seeing here,” said Jay E. Town, a former U.S. attorney for northern Alabama, “is that the judges set a benchmark for sentences for particular offenses in the early cases. That benchmark becomes the standard for future cases.” Town said that “judges across the country routinely go beneath the guidelines."

Mark H. Allenbaugh, a former attorney for the U.S. Sentencing Commission who has written extensively about sentencing policy and criminal justice, said the D.C. court’s record of going below sentencing guidelines in two-thirds of Jan. 6 cases “is a very significant below-guideline rate, particularly for such a high-profile group of defendants that caused an insurrection.”

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:32 pm

malchior wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:08 am The oversight IMO is that These convictions are against generally older, white, richer defendants. Do we believe if a black or brown group stormed the Capitol they'd be getting lenient sentencing like this?

I'm sure if we make it through 2024 without a nosedive into fascism, there will more detailed reports in the 2030s about all the people that were ultimately prosecuted. Here's a tally:

JUST IN: New Jan. 6 stats for 3rd anniversary of the attack

-1,265 arrests
-452 charged w assaulting/impeding officers
-332 charged w obstruction

-718 guilty pleas; 171 guilty at trial
-749 senences handed down

While I appreciate the work that's been done, it feels like maybe it's all too late.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:07 pm

em2nought wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:10 am Happy Insurrection Day! Here are ten great ways to celebrate https://babylonbee.com/news/10-great-wa ... -this-year

We could just celebrate by hanging all the traitors who tried to destroy America in the name of their orange god.

I mean, that’s what you’re supposed to do to traitors, right? If we can find a rope strong enough to hold that fat piece of human shit Trump, that is. Although his blood has been poisoned by marrying so many immigrants over the years, we might be able to just let nature run its course.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:44 pm

Just in case you had *any doubt* where he is.

Republican polling leader Donald Trump did not sign a loyalty oath requested of candidates for election in Illinois that asks, among other things, to swear that they won’t support overthrowing the government, according to an analysis of candidate petitions by the local news outlets WBEZ and Chicago Sun-Times.

His decision to not sign the pledge came near the third anniversary of the Jan. 6 insurrection. Trump is under indictment for alleged crimes in his efforts to overturn Joe Biden’s 2020 election victory.

Presidential hopefuls vying for a spot on Illinois’ March 19 primary ballot had to submit their nominating petitions to the State Board of Elections on Thursday or Friday. The loyalty pledge is not required but is a long-standing tradition that candidates undertake as part of that paperwork.

Trump has not publicly acknowledged the decision but had signed the oath during his presidential campaigns in 2016 and 2020. A spokesman for the Trump campaign did not immediately respond on Saturday to a request for comment.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sat Jan 06, 2024 10:49 pm

I heard that on the news today.

All I could think was: well - it’s not like that pledge mattered the last time he made it.

What is chilling to me is that he didn’t sign it, in order to underscore the point to his base.

em2nought · Post by **em2nought** » Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:22 am

hepcat wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:07 pm
em2nought wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:10 am Happy Insurrection Day! Here are ten great ways to celebrate https://babylonbee.com/news/10-great-wa ... -this-year

We could just celebrate by hanging all the traitors who tried to destroy America in the name of their orange god.

I mean, that’s what you’re supposed to do to traitors, right? If we can find a rope strong enough to hold that fat piece of human shit Trump, that is. Although his blood has been poisoned by marrying so many immigrants over the years, we might be able to just let nature run its course.

My reply is this meme.

How would you make sure a suitcase you bought at Goodwill had no bed bugs before you brought it in your house? Was thinking to set off some kind of bed bug fogger in my car just in case?