Election integrity and the transfer of power
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Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power
This is yet another sliver, anecdote, whatnot of our Problem, and I wish I saw hope for how to solve. It’s crushing, feels insurmountable. Yes, it’s ONE person n in this case, but she’s not even close to being alone in this. Note this was a jury trial, and note the last sentence in particular.
Consider the implications if she’s not just making a public comment, but actually filing a complaint about a judge saying that Jan 6 was a “troubling moment for the country.”
It’s akin to stating ‘war is awful’.
“Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) filed an ethics complaint against Howell (judge in Guiliani’s case) this week, the latest of a group of complaints filed against notable judges prosecuting Trump and his allies.
Stefanik claimed Howell committed misconduct by giving a speech which included her political opinions by calling the Jan. 6 Capitol riots a “troubling moment” for the country.”
Consider the implications if she’s not just making a public comment, but actually filing a complaint about a judge saying that Jan 6 was a “troubling moment for the country.”
It’s akin to stating ‘war is awful’.
“Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) filed an ethics complaint against Howell (judge in Guiliani’s case) this week, the latest of a group of complaints filed against notable judges prosecuting Trump and his allies.
Stefanik claimed Howell committed misconduct by giving a speech which included her political opinions by calling the Jan. 6 Capitol riots a “troubling moment” for the country.”
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You either blow Trump live in front of America or you lose your job. That's how the GOP works now.
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Giuliani declares bankruptcy the day after the judge removed the 30 day waiting period for the plaintiffs to go after his assets.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... ankruptcy/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... ankruptcy/
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But somehow the financial ruin attached to everyone in Trumps orbit isn’t enough to convince the GOP to stop supporting him.
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Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power
Make debtors prisons great again!
Maybe next year, maybe no go
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Dems look certain to pick up a House seat in LA.
https://lailluminator.com/2024/01/19/gr ... rity-seat/
https://lailluminator.com/2024/01/19/gr ... rity-seat/
Louisiana lawmakers gave final approval Friday to a congressional redistricting plan that adds a second majority-Black district to the state’s U.S. House lineup, likely at the expense of U.S. Rep. Garret Graves, a Republican from Baton Rouge.
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You just can't make this stuff up. Remember that documentary put out by True The Vote, called "Two Thousand Mules" which via supposed tracking of cell phones alleged a massive conspiracy involving fake ballots being dropped off at voting drop boxes. Well, they filed an official election complaint in GA and GA took them seriously. GA asked them for evidence and then TTV tried to take back their complaint. But GA sued them for their evidence. Well, la de da, their lawyers filed a response, saying that TTV had no such evidence, and no contact information for any of their alleged whistleblowers.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/true-the ... fbe7b1e5fc
It was all made up, as many others examining the supposed "evidence" believed. But of course, probably tens or hundreds of thousands watched their "documentary" and will never hear of this. As if we didn't know if already, it exposes once again, that claims of election fraud as just so much s***.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/true-the ... fbe7b1e5fc
It was all made up, as many others examining the supposed "evidence" believed. But of course, probably tens or hundreds of thousands watched their "documentary" and will never hear of this. As if we didn't know if already, it exposes once again, that claims of election fraud as just so much s***.
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It'd be nice if someone felt some pain over this.
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Yeah, like the lawyers should lose their licenses or if they took their complaint in good faith from clients then those clients should feel some sort of legal weight on their necks.
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The lawyers were just representing them, they had nothing to do with the movie or the complaint that was filed. But yeah, it’s frustrating that there are no legal sanctions for this kind of stuff.LordMortis wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 5:42 am Yeah, like the lawyers should lose their licenses or if they took their complaint in good faith from clients then those clients should feel some sort of legal weight on their necks.
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Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power
So where is the joker on here who had 2000 Mules as his sig?
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He only shows up to troll, so be careful what you wish for.Jaymann wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:17 am So where is the joker on here who had 2000 Mules as his sig?
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He took the last mule out of town.Jaymann wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:17 am So where is the joker on here who had 2000 Mules as his sig?
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... n-election
Figure has Ben developed to do mass voter challenges in Georgia. Missing a comma before Jr in your name or having the name of a dead person is enough.
Figure has Ben developed to do mass voter challenges in Georgia. Missing a comma before Jr in your name or having the name of a dead person is enough.
Richards explicitly stated in the March 2023 Zoom call that EagleAI fosters a circular dynamic: it overwhelms election boards with voter registration challenges, then leverages the chaos to try to land a paid contract.
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Thanks. She responded and he dismantled that too.
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Oof, she gets repeatedly schooled in the comments for her X post above. She says one thing, people point out her idiocy or hypocrisy, then she’s off to the next one.
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The Gish gallop is still a thing.
It's almost as if people are the problem.
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Kari Lake is just the gift that keeps on giving:
https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1 ... NcXCfN8s1g
She’s not even trying to defend herself. Hope she has a deep pocketbook!
https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1 ... NcXCfN8s1g
She’s not even trying to defend herself. Hope she has a deep pocketbook!
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https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/stat ... NcXCfN8s1g
This is kind of stupid. This money can’t be used for campaigning, and I doubt any legal challenges will be any more effective than they were last time, all just to soothe Trump’s ego.
This is kind of stupid. This money can’t be used for campaigning, and I doubt any legal challenges will be any more effective than they were last time, all just to soothe Trump’s ego.
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I'm gonna safely assume that if trump wins they will miraculously decide that they actually dont need lawsuits.
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Eastman to be disbarred in CA it appears:
A California judge on Wednesday recommended disbarring a lawyer at the center of former President Trump’s efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
State Bar Judge Yvette Roland found John Eastman culpable on 10 of the 11 counts filed by the California State Bar last year. The state bar sought to strip Eastman’s license to practice law in the state over “false and misleading statements” about purported election fraud and his role in “provoking” the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot.
“In view of the circumstances surrounding Eastman’s misconduct and balancing the aggravation and mitigation, the court recommends that Eastman be disbarred,” Roland wrote in a 128-page decision.
Eastman was also ordered to pay $10,000 in monetary sanctions to the State Bar of California Client Security Fund.
He can appeal Wednesday’s ruling, and the case could ultimately end up before the California Supreme Court.
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General Question.
If that person does get disbarred does that mean they just can't practice in CA or the entire US.
If that person does get disbarred does that mean they just can't practice in CA or the entire US.
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Each State has their own Bar, but generally lawyers are only licensed by one Bar and their exams. So he'd have to pass the Bar in another state to be able to practice there AFAIK (IANAL).Punisher wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:15 pm General Question.
If that person does get disbarred does that mean they just can't practice in CA or the entire US.
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That's correct, though it's not unusual for lawyers to be barred in more than one state (and many state bars allow you to be admitted without taking their bar exam if you've been practicing in another state for 5+ years). That said, I imagine many state bars would frown on a lawyer who has been disbarred in another state for known misconduct.Pyperkub wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:26 pmEach State has their own Bar, but generally lawyers are only licensed by one Bar and their exams. So he'd have to pass the Bar in another state to be able to practice there AFAIK (IANAL).Punisher wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:15 pm General Question.
If that person does get disbarred does that mean they just can't practice in CA or the entire US.
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I did read that he is (was?) also licensed to practice in DC
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Well would you look at that. He's lucky he isn't a Black woman in Texas.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... al-voting/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... al-voting/
A Georgia Republican official who pushed false claims that the 2020 election was “stolen” was found to have voted illegally nine times, a judge ruled this week.
Brian Pritchard, first vice chairman of the Georgia Republican Party, was ordered to pay a $5,000 fine, as well as investigative costs, and be publicly reprimanded.
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FWIW Crystal Mason was acquitted just yesterday by a Texas appeals court. I assume that who you are referring to by "black woman in Texas".Alefroth wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:32 pm Well would you look at that. He's lucky he isn't a Black woman in Texas.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... al-voting/
A Georgia Republican official who pushed false claims that the 2020 election was “stolen” was found to have voted illegally nine times, a judge ruled this week.
Brian Pritchard, first vice chairman of the Georgia Republican Party, was ordered to pay a $5,000 fine, as well as investigative costs, and be publicly reprimanded.
Now, I think her case still serves as good voter suppression for the GOP because who would risk going through what she went through. But still good news.
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Yep, that's the reference. Acquitted after six years.
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What does "publicly reprimanded" entail these days?
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A newspaper classified ad?
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A paddle, a camera and usually a 200 dollar deposit in some circles.
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Okay, so I'm not alone in the humor invoked by that line item.
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I like to think you're "lone".
Spoiler:
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Ah, Batmanuel.
That was such a great show. Too bad they killed it.
Also, too bad they killed the next iteration too.
It maybe wasn't quite as good/funny as the first live action but it definitely had higher production values and a talented writing team.
I think I miss Danger Boat as much as I miss Batmanuel.
That was such a great show. Too bad they killed it.
Also, too bad they killed the next iteration too.
It maybe wasn't quite as good/funny as the first live action but it definitely had higher production values and a talented writing team.
I think I miss Danger Boat as much as I miss Batmanuel.
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The great Néstor Carbonell made Batmanuel insanely hilarious. And while I love Tudyk (and Dangerboat) as much as the next nerd, I will always hold a special place in my comedy heart for Batmanuel.Brian wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:22 pm Ah, Batmanuel.
That was such a great show. Too bad they killed it.
Also, too bad they killed the next iteration too.
It maybe wasn't quite as good/funny as the first live action but it definitely had higher production values and a talented writing team.
I think I miss Danger Boat as much as I miss Batmanuel.
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Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions. – G.K. Chesterton