Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?

[Grifman]

I’m pretty sure distributing counterfeit money is illegal:

[Blackhawk]

He's right - he's helping clean up the community.

When those start getting passed, the Secret Service will know exactly who is responsible, and the community will be just a little cleaner.

[hepcat]

I’m pretty sure distributing counterfeit money is illegal:

I always wondered if Dennis Reynolds from It’s Always Sunny was based on a real person. I guess he is.

[Kurth]

Who the fuck is Johnny McEntee and why do we give a shit what that idiot is doing?

One more example of why I hate social media.

[Alefroth]

Who the fuck is Johnny McEntee and why do we give a shit what that idiot is doing?

One more example of why I hate social media.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... al/620646/

[Grifman]

These are really ugly numbers for Biden:



I don’t know if he can shift them all that much in the time remaining. Michigan is also surprising given the total collapse of the state GOP there. That state should be Biden’s for the taking.

And this is disastrous (from the NYT article in the tweet):

“Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden are essentially tied among 18-to-29-year-olds and Hispanic voters, even though each group gave Mr. Biden more than 60 percent of their vote in 2020. Mr. Trump also wins more than 20 percent of Black voters — a tally that would be the highest level of Black support for any Republican presidential candidate since the enactment of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.”

[YellowKing]

They're seriously going to have to put me on anxiety medication if that orange fascist wins. I just can't for 4 (or more) years.

[LordMortis]

Very very very sadly, I don't doubt those numbers but how old is that picture of TFG? Why not just use a picture of him in his 30s? I think that's an old picture of Biden as well but the TFG difference is striking. NYT really should be more frank in how old both these candidates are.

[Carpet_pissr]

They're seriously going to have to put me on anxiety medication if that orange fascist wins. I just can't for 4 (or more) years.

+1 for me with the only modification being ‘increase’ instead of ‘put me on’.

[Grifman]

These are really ugly numbers for Biden:



I don’t know if he can shift them all that much in the time remaining. Michigan is also surprising given the total collapse of the state GOP there. That state should be Biden’s for the taking.

And this is disastrous (from the NYT article in the tweet):

“Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden are essentially tied among 18-to-29-year-olds and Hispanic voters, even though each group gave Mr. Biden more than 60 percent of their vote in 2020. Mr. Trump also wins more than 20 percent of Black voters — a tally that would be the highest level of Black support for any Republican presidential candidate since the enactment of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.”

Sorry, I put this in the wrong thread, meant it to put it in the 2024 election thread.

[Dogstar]

Senator Britt proposes a federal database of pregnant women.

The More Opportunities for Moms to Succeed (Moms) act proposes to establish an online government database called “pregnancy.gov” listing resources related to pregnancy, including information about adoption agencies and pregnancy care providers, except for those that provide abortion-related services...

...The website would direct users to enter their personal data and contact information, and although Britt’s communications director said the site would not collect data on pregnant people, page three of the bill states that users can “take an assessment through the website and provide consent to use the user’s contact information” which government officials may use “to conduct outreach via phone or email to follow up with users on additional resources that would be helpful for the users to review”.

Handmaid's Tale is increasingly feeling less like a cautionary tale and more like a model for policies for people to emulate.

[Smoove_B]

They've been openly and loudly telling us what's coming if TFG gets re-elected, which seems to be working for them.

I really didn't think it was going to be possible. but it is starting to feel more and more likely we're about to slide into full-on insanity.

[Isgrimnur]

Single-issue voters will be the death of us.

[LordMortis]

They've been openly and loudly telling us what's coming if TFG gets re-elected, which seems to be working for them.

I really didn't think it was going to be possible. but it is starting to feel more and more likely we're about to slide into full-on insanity.

I think we'll survive him Electric Boogaloo as well as can be hoped for for the moment, but he lays even more groundwork for the end and his backers break the courts even more, such that full on insanity becomes immanent. We'll also have to endure his radicals being even more open than they are now while we wait for the cult to do what cults do and for the ostriches to figure out what they're going to do with no sand in sight. If/how we bounce back post 2nd term? I dunno. We survived the world leading us up to and through Nixon but then, we also were a different world back then. Breaking the norms and people of power may or may not change as he slips further and further in to dementia and revenge seeking while his cult and courts become more and more brazen. 2026 and then 2028 become serious questions.

I do have every reason to believe Putin gets worse with a better entrenchment of his propaganda at every level. Though he's old and slipping too.

[YellowKing]

I'm almost to the point of taking the fatalistic approach and saying, "If that's what they want, let them have it." Let the world burn. You want the leopard to eat your face, have at it. I'll just be sitting quietly in the corner rocking back and forth muttering, " I told you so."

The stupid have inherited the earth, and I just have to face the fact that the rest of my life and my kids lives will be dictated by fools and idiots.

[LordMortis]

I sometimes tread that same ground but I'm coward at heart.

[Unagi]

I'm almost to the point of taking the fatalistic approach and saying, "If that's what they want, let them have it." Let the world burn. You want the leopard to eat your face, have at it. I'll just be sitting quietly in the corner rocking back and forth muttering, " I told you so."

The stupid have inherited the earth, and I just have to face the fact that the rest of my life and my kids lives will be dictated by fools and idiots.

I can't get on board. I feel like that just leads to: "I only thought they would eat their faces..."

We either fight to the end, or it's on us.

[GreenGoo]

I'm almost to the point of taking the fatalistic approach and saying, "If that's what they want, let them have it." Let the world burn. You want the leopard to eat your face, have at it. I'll just be sitting quietly in the corner rocking back and forth muttering, " I told you so."

The stupid have inherited the earth, and I just have to face the fact that the rest of my life and my kids lives will be dictated by fools and idiots.

My main problem with this, is that they'll never realize their face is being eaten, and when they do start to think there's a problem, Fox news will blame the jews the Dems, who by that time will hold almost none of the seats in the Senate or the House, and they will *still* believe it.

My reference to jewish people above is a reference to the scapegoating that happened in Germany. As long as there's an internal enemy to hate, there will be very little headway in a reconciliation in the country.

And let's not forget that one side is often about expanding rights for individuals, while the other side is about suppressing individuals. The Rep have really established themselves as the party of hate.

Tell me what the party platform is right now, I dare you, and then tell me it's not about hurting "the others". No rationalizations allowed.

[Unagi]

Whites are better and Russia is not evil

[LordMortis]

I went to look up the platform... It's from 2016... with the exception of:

RESOLVED, That the Republican Party has and will continue to enthusiastically support the
President’s America-first agenda;
RESOLVED, That the 2020 Republican National Convention will adjourn without adopting a
new platform until the 2024 Republican National Convention;
RESOLVED, That the 2020 Republican National Convention calls on the media to engage in
accurate and unbiased reporting, especially as it relates to the strong support of the RNC for
President Trump and his Administration; and
RESOLVED, That any motion to amend the 2016 Platform or to adopt a new platform, including
any motion to suspend the procedures that will allow doing so, will be ruled out of order.

So there is no platform until July 18th, when it likely will be the same "be nice to TFG" as it has been for the last 8 years.

[GreenGoo]

Well, to be clear, I didn't mean the official platform. We're not quite at the stage yet where they can say "screw these people in particular" officially on their website. But we're close. They have no problem saying into a camera or in session.

[Alefroth]

I'm almost to the point of taking the fatalistic approach and saying, "If that's what they want, let them have it." Let the world burn. You want the leopard to eat your face, have at it. I'll just be sitting quietly in the corner rocking back and forth muttering, " I told you so."

The stupid have inherited the earth, and I just have to face the fact that the rest of my life and my kids lives will be dictated by fools and idiots.

Don't despair so much. Climate change will make it all moot before too long.

[Blackhawk]

Single-issue voters will be the death of us.

"Not Trump" is a single issue...

[Isgrimnur]

Single-issue voters will be the death of us.

"Not Trump" is a single issue...

I respectfully disagree.

[Blackhawk]

They're seriously going to have to put me on anxiety medication if that orange fascist wins. I just can't for 4 (or more) years.

I've been wondering for a while if, should he win, I will simply turn off the news, stop reading R&P, and try to live out my last two or three decades in whatever peace they allow me.

Then I realize that I'd be surrendering to them, and doing exactly what they're hoping for.

And then I realize that I don't have the stamina to keep caring once we've reached that point, and I will simply turn off the news, stop....

And then I realize that I'd be surrendering....

And then

And then

And then

And then

[Kraken]

I daydream about joining a resistance cell. The resistance is going to need copy editors, right?

[Alefroth]

I daydream about joining a resistance cell. The resistance is going to need copy editors, right?

Don't forget kitty caregiver.

[Kraken]

I daydream about joining a resistance cell. The resistance is going to need copy editors, right?

Don't forget kitty caregiver.

I can cook passably well, too. There will be a place for me in the underground.

[Grifman]

The Texas GOP is just nuts - look at their whole platform:

[Pyperkub]

Look at Alabama! And realize it's everywhere the GOP holds any power...

Dear America,

Here's where Alabama currently stands: Our governor is under investigation. Our House speaker is under indictment. Our chief justice is suspended from duty and awaiting trial, again. We're one of the poorest states in the country, living off the federal dole, and we sit at or near the bottom of most empirical rankings of quality of life. Our leadership is non-existent and our government is on the brink of collapse.

But don't think for a minute that you're better than us. Donald Trump is the Republican presumptive presidential nominee, and you put him there. You're closer to Alabama than you care to think.

Gov:

Six years ago we elected Robert Bentley governor because most voters were under the impression that, despite lacking other qualifications for the job, he might be a good man. He was so gracious that he promised not to draw a paycheck unless Alabamians reached virtual full employment. Also, he had once been Bear Bryant's dermatologist.

Since then he has abandoned all sense -- and his wife of 50 years.

There were lots of warning signs, first of which was, on inauguration day, he told a congregation in Montgomery that if you aren't Christian you couldn't be his spiritual brother or sister. During six years in office, that piety did not prevent him from groping a senior political advisor and later talking dirty to her on the phone while his soon-to-be-ex-wife recorded the conversation.

And that's just the beginning of his troubles. He's now under investigation by the Alabama Ethics Commission and a whole Alphabet Soup of federal agencies. He's lost his family, his reputation and his home.

House Speaker:

Before Bentley, there was Alabama House Speaker Mike Hubbard, who stormed the Alabama Statehouse, deposing more than a century of Democratic control there. He pushed through what was, at the time, toughest-in-the-nation ethics laws and, according to prosecutors, broke them.

Not only is he accused of breaking the laws he passed, but since then he has argued in court that the laws he passed don't apply to him because the laws he passed are unconstitutional.

[waitingtoconnect]

Look at Alabama! And realize it's everywhere the GOP holds any power...

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Yes but they have a cool song. How many other states have a cool song?

People need to be more patriotic and support their great and unimpeachable (because the 2/3 majority threshold can’t be reached to do so) state leaders…. (Sarcasm)

[Pyperkub]

Look at Alabama! And realize it's everywhere the GOP holds any power...

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Yes but they have a cool song. How many other states have a cool song?

People need to be more patriotic and support their great state leaders…. (Sarcasm)

California Uber Alles by the DK's? ;)New York, New York by Sinatra?

[waitingtoconnect]

Look at Alabama! And realize it's everywhere the GOP holds any power...

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Yes but they have a cool song. How many other states have a cool song?

People need to be more patriotic and support their great state leaders…. (Sarcasm)

California Uber Alles by the DK's? ;)New York, New York by Sinatra?

The Uber company song and a song about a city not a state? no I don’t agree these are as good…

Besides we know after today that New York is a city of traitors who don’t respect true patriots…

[Blackhawk]

Look at Alabama! And realize it's everywhere the GOP holds any power...

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Yes but they have a cool song. How many other states have a cool song?

People need to be more patriotic and support their great state leaders…. (Sarcasm)

California Uber Alles by the DK's? ;)New York, New York by Sinatra?

I'm pretty sure that only one of those qualifies (although they both qualify as cool songs.)

I can think of a few others, but they're much older songs that most people here wouldn't like.

[Kraken]

I can think of a few others, but they're much older songs that most people here wouldn't like.

Try us. Some of us are hep cats.

[ImLawBoy]

We've got a whole great album!

[LawBeefaroni]

We've got a whole great album!

The best part is he was "supposed" to make an album for each state but stopped after just two. Michigan and Illinois.

[hepcat]

I can think of a few others, but they're much older songs that most people here wouldn't like.

Try us. Some of us are hep cats.

[Carpet_pissr]

Take me Home, Country Roads

Quite a few about NY that don’t say they AREN’T about the state vs the city . And surely Empire State of Mind is referring to the state.

Lots of good California songs

Georgia (at least 2)

A couple good ones mentioning “Carolina” (you choose which!)

Surely at least one cool song about Florida?

Tennessee (Arrested Development)

Texas had at least a few.

That’s just off the top of my head.

[Blackhawk]

Also off the top of my head. Avoiding the already mentioned, and avoiding the usual pop/classic rock that most around here prefer. Whether any particular song is cool is up to you. I grew up listening to the music of the 30s-50s, plus early country (all my father's music.) I developed more modern tastes as a teenager and adult, but still have a lot of out of appreciation for older songs.

Down by the Ohio
Back Home Again in Indiana
The Everlasting Hills of Oklahoma
North to Alaska
Georgia on my Mind
Rocky Mountain High
Leaving Louisiana in the Broad Daylight
Kentucky Woman
Take Me Home, Country Road
Moonlight in Vermont
California Dreaming
Tennessee Waltz
Oklahoma!
Midnight Train to Georgia
Kentucky Rain
California Love