Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?

[Blackhawk]

The Texas GOP is just nuts

Yeah, they are:

The Republican Party of Texas is calling for a referendum on whether the state "should reassert its status as an independent nation" as a "legislative priority" in the next session of the Texas legislature.

Good luck!

Please go. Please. The nation is too big. We could do with less.

[Unagi]

yeah...

[Daehawk]

Id love to see them go. They'd fail within 5 years.

[Kraken]

Independence is evergreen in TX, isn't it? They've been rumbling about being a nation ever since they became a state.

[LordMortis]

As long as they pay their population's share of the debt before they go and return all of the federal properties in their possession. Whatever we are calling NAFTA nowadays gets interesting when we exclude Texas and start taxing their imports and exports. Anything to get rid of Paxton's undo influence tax dodgers works for me. Of course, if they go and Congress and the EC takes that shift there will be hell to pay, but I'm OK with that as well. Let Texas take Atlantic South with them and pay their debt too.

Sorry fellow OOers living there and the millions of innocents. We can open up the border for immigration for non secessionists.

[Unagi]

Independence is evergreen in TX, isn't it? They've been rumbling about being a nation ever since they became a state.

Yes, I always assumed The "Lone Star" State was always a big 'fuck you' to the 'United States'

[Isgrimnur]

It’s our Yelp review average.

[Unagi]

[Holman]

In 2020, basically 46.5% of Texan voters went for Biden. If the Texas GOP voted to secede, wouldn't roughly that number call for protections as US citizens? What happens to corporations that would prefer to continue to be based in the USA? What happens if the Texas state government tries to ignore or suppress them?

There are no Red states and Blue states. There are Red and Blue citizens living alongside each other. Secession makes no sense.

[Blackhawk]

It doesn't make less sense than what we're already doing.

[geezer]

In 2020, basically 46.5% of Texan voters went for Biden. If the Texas GOP voted to secede, wouldn't roughly that number call for protections as US citizens? What happens to corporations that would prefer to continue to be based in the USA? What happens if the Texas state government tries to ignore or suppress them?

There are no Red states and Blue states. There are Red and Blue citizens living alongside each other. Secession makes no sense.

I am astounded that you believe that the nutjobs that run the Texas GOP have thought about it that much. Honestly, I live in the middle of this shit - it's not that every Texan is crazy, it's that the ones that care enough to force their way to the top of the Texas GOP *really are* that crazy now, and a critical mass of the rest of the Texas Republican base is so indoctrinated that they legit believe that Democrats want to (turn kids gay/force transgenderism/confiscate UR Guns/make Mark (edit - Marx) required reading/Blah blah blah.).

[Holman]

In 2020, basically 46.5% of Texan voters went for Biden. If the Texas GOP voted to secede, wouldn't roughly that number call for protections as US citizens? What happens to corporations that would prefer to continue to be based in the USA? What happens if the Texas state government tries to ignore or suppress them?

There are no Red states and Blue states. There are Red and Blue citizens living alongside each other. Secession makes no sense.

I am astounded that you believe that the nutjobs that run the Texas GOP have thought about it that much. Honestly, I live in the middle of this shit - it's not that every Texan is crazy, it's that the ones that care enough to force their way to the top of the Texas GOP *really are* that crazy now, and a critical mass of the rest of the Texas Republican base is so indoctrinated that they legit believe that Democrats want to (turn kids gay/force transgenderism/confiscate UR Guns/make Mark required reading/Blah blah blah.).

Oh, I believe you. (I grew up in the Deep South and even lived for a while in Texas.)

My trust is that, if the MAGA crazies in Austin actually move towards secession, they're going to learn that national and global scale corporate entities do not want to deal with their bullshit.

Plus, Texas leaving the USA will significantly tilt DC towards the center-left majority that these corporations most fear.

[Pyperkub]

There won't be succession, just the steady drumbeat of the GOP eroding rights

Voters have no right to fair elections, NC lawmakers say as they seek to dismiss gerrymandering suit

[LordMortis]

I think this is an example that supports the contemporary definition

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art ... -water-bag

A Vermont lawmaker was compelled to apologize publicly after being caught on video pouring water into her colleague’s work bag multiple times across several months.

The bizarre behavior is allegedly a part of a campaign of harassment that one legislator aimed at another who represents the same district in the Green Mountain state, independent outlet Seven Days first reported.

The Republican representative, Mary Morrissey, 67, confessed to dumping water in the bag of the Democratic legislator Jim Carroll, 62. She later apologized during a Vermont state house session on Monday, Boston.com reported.

It's one thing to be passive aggressive [/raises hand. Spending a lifetime trying to change but falling into bad stuff and feeling out of cheeks to turn all too often.] and allowing other's lives to be more difficult on your watch. It's quite another to be deceitfully malicious and destructive.

[Carpet_pissr]

There won't be succession

These assholes say "hold our beer"

[Skinypupy]

Not hyperbole. At the signing of the bill to mandate the 10 Commandments in schools, the kid in the white shirt behind him literally passed right out.
Neither the Governor or the two ghouls flanking him even paused in their celebration to acknowledge the kid or see if she was ok.



https://x.com/EricG1247/status/1803837098283405579

(Are tweets showing up just another thing Elon broke?)

[Blackhawk]

(Are tweets showing up just another thing Elon broke?)

Elon, but it's been that way ever since he changed the name. The forum software only recognizes twitter addresses, not x. Just change the 'x' to 'twitter' and it works.

[waitingtoconnect]

Not hyperbole. At the signing of the bill to mandate the 10 Commandments in schools, the kid in the white shirt behind him literally passed right out.
Neither the Governor or the two ghouls flanking him even paused in their celebration to acknowledge the kid or see if she was ok.



https://x.com/EricG1247/status/1803837098283405579

(Are tweets showing up just another thing Elon broke?)

Is protecting children in the Ten Commandments? No. I rest my case.

Further in the Ten Commandments we are told that one must honour thy mother and father. By embarrassing their parents by fainting the child has not done this and must be punished.

[Isgrimnur]

By embarrassing their parents by fainting the child has not done this and must be punished.

...Mom?

[waitingtoconnect]

By embarrassing their parents by fainting the child has not done this and must be punished.

...Mom?

Don’t make me leave you outside on Purge night again!

[Isgrimnur]

By embarrassing their parents by fainting the child has not done this and must be punished.

...Mom?

Don’t make me leave you outside on Purge night again!

It's been a while since I've eaten that well.

[Skinypupy]

Is protecting children in the Ten Commandments? No. I rest my case.

Further in the Ten Commandments we are told that one must honour thy mother and father. By embarrassing their parents by fainting the child has not done this and must be punished.

[Blackhawk]

To be fair to the worthless asshole (why do I do this?), a small child fell behind him in a crowded, noisy room in the midst of applause. Him and those next to him not noticing for the remaining 18 seconds isn't a reasonable criticism. His intentional acts are more than enough to justify the scorn.

[Victoria Raverna]

Problem with the left. You try to be fair but the other side doesn't care to be fair to your side.

[Blackhawk]

So I should make things up to mock them for?

[Victoria Raverna]

So I should make things up to mock them for?

No, but maybe don't defend them?

[LawBeefaroni]

To be fair to the worthless asshole (why do I do this?), a small child fell behind him in a crowded, noisy room in the midst of applause. Him and those next to him not noticing for the remaining 18 seconds isn't a reasonable criticism. His intentional acts are more than enough to justify the scorn.

Someone tried to get the attention of the woman on the left (pulled on her shoulder) but she blew it off.

[Blackhawk]

If we can't find real things to blame people for in this environment, we deserve what we get.

[YellowKing]

Eh just given the context of the video and not the afterwards, I have to side with Blackhawk on this one. I'm not defending their policies, but I'm not seeing anything in the video that proves definitively that they purposefully ignored a child passing out.

[Blackhawk]

Back on the actual act.

I have a feeling that this will be questioned/appealed/sued fairly quickly. That's even more scary - this is exactly the kind of extreme actions that the GOP has been taking specifically to get them dragged in front of SCOTUS. I don't want this SCOTUS having an excuse to "re-precedent" the Establishment Clause.

[Skinypupy]

Fucking seething.

[LordMortis]

Is it me or are more and more GOP members posting their names on blue backgrounds? I've been seeing this in the last couple of bi annual cycles locally. One would think as much as they all toe the party line they'd all use MAGA red.

[Holman]

Fucking seething.

The Southern Baptist Convention declared itself against IVF just a couple of weeks ago despite the practice being uncontroversial for decades. Of course it all comes back to legitimate sex being only for procreation, and procreation occurring only through legitimate sex.

I assume this guy is taking his cues from there. I also assume (just going with the percentages here) that there is something to the rumors of an extramarital affair that caused him to abandon his US senate bid almost immediately after announcing it.

[Kraken]

Is it me or are more and more GOP members posting their names on blue backgrounds? I've been seeing this in the last couple of bi annual cycles locally. One would think as much as they all toe the party line they'd all use MAGA red.

It's always seemed odd to me that in MA, Republican primary ballots are blue and Dems are red.

[Skinypupy]

Fucking seething.

The Southern Baptist Convention declared itself against IVF just a couple of weeks ago despite the practice being uncontroversial for decades. Of course it all comes back to legitimate sex being only for procreation, and procreation occurring only through legitimate sex.

I assume this guy is taking his cues from there.

It has more to do with the fact that the IVF process typically creates more fertilized embryos than can be implanted. These extra fertilized embryos (which are 5 days old and nothing more than a clump of 6-10 cells in a petrie dish) are then cryofrozen or discarded, based on what the patient wants to do. We chose to cryofreeze our extras and attempt to re-implant them at a later time. Both our pregnancies were achieved this way. We had several additional embryos left over that we chose to discard once we decided we were done having kids.

Both Rep Rosendale and the SBC claims that the 5-day old clump of cells should be considered a "person", and therefore disposing of them is equivalent to murder. They would prefer that families (like mine) simply not have kids at all instead of disposing of these embryos.

As always, fuck them.

EDIT: Yep.



Thankfully, it appears to have been ignored and not included in the bill. Still, the fact that these things keep getting proposed (and seem to be gaining some traction) is infuriating.

[Blackhawk]

Back on the actual act.

I have a feeling that this will be questioned/appealed/sued fairly quickly.

Four days. They had to have known that this would happen.

I can't help but wonder if this was a deliberate plan to get the Establishment Clause in front of The Supremes. They need to get their money's worth in case some of the conservatives in the court kick the bucket, and far right pet issues have done really, really well there in the last couple of years.

[Kurth]

Fucking seething.

I feel like you should be the opposite of seething. This is a stupid position to take, and one that is deeply unpopular. The more these idiots glom on to this kind of idiocy, the sooner they’ll be out of office. And even if that doesn’t hold true individually with certain insane, idiot districts, it definitely holds true at the macro level.

Being anti-IVF is not a winning issue.

Also, saying that you “feel for couples that are unable to have children” does nothing to inoculate you from a fundamentally anti-family position when you are purportedly part of the pro-family party. Total trash. Totally transparent. No one wants this garbage (again, at a macro level).

[Skinypupy]

I feel like you should be the opposite of seething. This is a stupid position to take, and one that is deeply unpopular. The more these idiots glom on to this kind of idiocy, the sooner they’ll be out of office. And even if that doesn’t hold true individually with certain insane, idiot districts, it definitely holds true at the macro level.

Being anti-IVF is not a winning issue.

I'll fully admit that much of it is simply an emotional reaction because it hits so close to home.

It does feel, however, that the anti-IVF sentiment seems to be gaining some traction lately. I realize it is generally a widely unpopular stance, but I worry that there's just enough weird lunatic levers that something could sneak through. Hopefully that fear proves to be unfounded.

[Blackhawk]

Yeah, that's a non-starter. No Republican wanting votes is going to touch that, especially in an election year. If I let myself get worked up over every introduced/suggested/submitted bit of legislation, I'd burst every blood vessel. I prefer to wait until it at least looks like it's being taken seriously before I seethe.

[Kraken]