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Dude. There are channels other than CNBC. You have to get past that they turned into garbage, bro...move on!LordMortis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:34 pm Haven't seen the ad, which is odd because Biden puts on a lot of ads here. Though, I got so frustrated with CNBC that I hardly watch TV anymore. Once I turned them off, they took the rest of TV with them and non streaming TV has pretty much been non existent, as has all my news sourcing, placing me squarely in the OO echo chamber for my news.
Truth. You are joking but it is so much truth. Change R hard.
He's actually denying he made the suckers and losers comments, even though reported by The Atlantic and corroborated by John Kelly. He said only a psychopath or someone very stupid would make those comments.
I always thought it was the ultimate stretch of reality when, in video games, enemy weakspots would glow so you knew where to aim.
Now let's hope that we are not shown that the Stormtrooper's ridiculously poor accuracy when given multiple shots at an obvious target isn't shown to also happen in real life.
I thought that there was video of it?
I don't think there was video, but Kelly is much more reliable than Trump.Punisher wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 2:20 pmI thought that there was video of it?
There is of course video of Trump saying in a speech that John McCain was a loser because he was captured (forget the exact words he used, but that was what he was saying). That also gives additional credence to the "suckers" and "losers" comments about veterans.Holman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 5:30 pmI don't think there was video, but Kelly is much more reliable than Trump.Punisher wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 2:20 pmI thought that there was video of it?
Close. memories can be tricky.El Guapo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:25 pm There is of course video of Trump saying in a speech that John McCain was a loser because he was captured (forget the exact words he used, but that was what he was saying). That also gives additional credence to the "suckers" and "losers" comments about veterans.
McCain requested a combat assignment,[30] and was assigned to the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal flying A-4 Skyhawks.[31] His combat duty began when he was 30 years old in mid-1967, when Forrestal was assigned to a bombing campaign, Operation Rolling Thunder, during the Vietnam War.[25][32] Stationed in the Gulf of Tonkin, McCain and his fellow pilots became frustrated by micromanagement from Washington, and he later wrote, "In all candor, we thought our civilian commanders were complete idiots who didn't have the least notion of what it took to win the war."[32][33]
On July 29, 1967, McCain was a lieutenant commander when he was near the center of the USS Forrestal fire. He escaped from his burning jet and was trying to help another pilot escape when a bomb exploded;[34] McCain was struck in the legs and chest by fragments.[35] The ensuing fire killed 134 sailors and took 24 hours to control.[36][37] With the Forrestal out of commission, McCain volunteered for assignment with the USS Oriskany, another aircraft carrier employed in Operation Rolling Thunder.[38] There, he was awarded the Navy Commendation Medal and the Bronze Star Medal for missions flown over North Vietnam.[39]
Prisoner of war
McCain was taken prisoner of war on October 26, 1967. He was flying his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam when his A-4E Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi.[40][41] McCain fractured both arms and a leg when he ejected from the aircraft,[42] and nearly drowned after he parachuted into Trúc Bạch Lake. Some North Vietnamese pulled him ashore, then others crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt and bayoneted him.[40] McCain was then transported to Hanoi's main Hỏa Lò Prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton".[41]
Although McCain was seriously wounded and injured, his captors refused to treat him. They beat and interrogated him to get information, and he was given medical care only when the North Vietnamese discovered that his father was an admiral.[43] His status as a prisoner of war (POW) made the front pages of major American newspapers.[44][45]
McCain spent six weeks in the hospital, where he received marginal care. He had lost 50 pounds (23 kg), he was in a chest cast, and his gray hair had turned white.[40] McCain was sent to a different camp on the outskirts of Hanoi.[46] In December 1967, McCain was placed in a cell with two other Americans, who did not expect him to live more than a week.[47] In March 1968, McCain was placed into solitary confinement, where he remained for two years.[48]
No he's not, he's suggesting McCain was only a hero because he was captured.Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:08 pm but he's suggesting that we shouldn't automatically consider anyone that gets captured a hero.
I'll agree that the "I like people who don't get captured" is an extremely shitty and ill-informed thing to say, so of course he said it.Alefroth wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:54 pmNo he's not, he's suggesting McCain was only a hero because he was captured.Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:08 pm but he's suggesting that we shouldn't automatically consider anyone that gets captured a hero.
Whether being captured (and surviving a POW camp for two years) makes someone a hero or not, he's clearly shitting on POWs by saying he likes people who aren't captured.
Hey, now. He was the best athlete anyone had ever seen at the private military academy his parents shipped off to! And he would *easily* have won the Medal of Honor in Vietnam if it weren't for those darn bone spurs!YellowKing wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:07 pm It's particularly galling coming from someone who never served a day in the military in his life. It would be one thing coming from a fellow POW, or at the very least someone who saw combat. Coming from him it just adds an entirely new layer of insult to injury.
They absolutely hate Biden's tax-the-rich philosophy and will spend as much as it takes to buy the presidency for TFG.LordMortis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2024 9:09 am
And you know who's reinforcing things are so bad? Billionaires and CEOs making record profits and record paychecks. Billionaires who want less tax collection less tax collectors looking at them and protections against wage increases. Billionaires building populist support for tempest in teapot causes and are now sending 100's of millions of dollars in to TFGs campaign a month. The news I am exposed to (which I have limited greatly and has a conservative lean) sneaks this in every day and as if it's a good thing.
And yet umemployment has fallen spectacularly, so can it really have been that many? I haven't really noticed it all that much in my city. Restaurants are always closing and opening (one of the biggest impacts of covid) and I just don't see what you say.
I’ve heard this refrain enough to believe it to be true.
At the core of the outlet’s position are the lies—over 30,000 while in office, at least 30 during Thursday’s debate alone—Trump has told. The debate was “a reminder of what another four years of Trump would look like. More lies, grievance, narcissism, and hate.”
Trump’s first term in office was notable for several reasons, the board continued, including the hours he spent devoted to Twitter and the time he spent at properties he owns, apparently playing over 200 games of golf. He also made a lot of promises that he failed to keep, including his border wall with Mexico.
“Trump stacked the judiciary with extreme judges consisting mainly of white males, including a number who the American Bar Association rated as not qualified. A record number of cabinet officials were fired or left the office. The West Wing was in constant chaos and infighting,” the board wrote.
Among other lows from Trump’s time in office: the $2 billion deal his son-in-law struck with Saudi Arabia’s government, his own impeachments, and his failed management of the COVID-19 pandemic. More recently, he was convicted on 34 counts of fraud in New York, and still faces 3 additional federal cases (including one about his role in the attempted overthrow of the very government he ostensibly wants to head).
With all this in mind, the board asks: why was he even allowed on the debate stage in the first place?
President Biden might not have performed as well as many had hoped he would in Thursday’s debate, the editorial team concluded, but “Biden believes in the best of America. He has rebuilt relationships with allies around the world and stood up to foes like Russia and China. There was only one person at the debate who does not deserve to be running for president. The sooner Trump exits the stage, the better off the country will be.”
OK State Superintendent of Education warns teachers must teach the Bible or lose their license. He’s also mandating all classrooms have a Bible. He’s confident that the Supreme Court will ultimately uphold his decision because of Trump’s appointed judges.
