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Momentum continues.

You know how Trump has been bashing EVs and alternative energy? Musk knows how to play that game. The White House open air market is starting early.
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If only there was a political party already supportive and committed to expanding EV usage in the US, he could help them get elected instead of try to convince a dinosaur (in this case I mean views, not age) and his cultists to change their tune on his product. Roll coal!

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GreenGoo wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:26 am If only there was a political party already supportive and committed to expanding EV usage in the US, he could help them get elected instead of try to convince a dinosaur (in this case I mean views, not age) and his cultists to change their tune on his product. Roll coal!

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Yeah but that party roll with a cooler set of tech bros and have all received “vaccines” with competing microchips.
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Only one party will cut Elon’s taxes AND give him government subsidies.
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Don't forget that it hates labor, and loves deregulation and holders of massive capital.
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After Trump's acceptance speech he played the perfect song.

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Rip wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:30 am After Trump's acceptance speech he played the perfect song.

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So does anyone think from last night that Trump was changed by his near-death experience?
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Not at all.

The leopard doesn’t stop eating your face.

He couldn’t even stay changed for his whole speech.

And by “unity” Trump meant “obedience.” I object.
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The time for questioning is over…in America at least.

The BBC fact checked his key points.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cglk87d817zo

He said crime has gone up massively. It hasn’t.

Is inflation ‘the worst we’ve ever had’? No that was in the 1920s

Did he deliver the biggest tax cuts ever. No he delivered the eighth biggest.

“The jobs that are created [under Biden] - 107% of those jobs are taken by illegal aliens”. Incredible how these illegal aliens can violate the laws of reality isn’t it?

Remember children when listening to a final trump speech it’s all true. Especially the lies.
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Violent crime in Boston (per capita) set a new low last year, and this year is running behind that. But if he says blue cities are deadly wastelands the stats must be wrong.
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It's noticeably up around here... in TFG low income "affordable housing"country. I don't know the statistics but there are signs of shootings posted on telephone poles and sirens like never before. Police presence, ironically, seems down.

Anecdotally, the threat of violence is crazy high around here. I'd have never considered moving here in 2003 if it were literally in the same zip code as what it is now.
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Rip wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:30 am After Trump's acceptance speech he played the perfect song.
I didn’t watch, but I’m assuming it was Wheels on the Bus Go Round and Round?
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That’s the issue. Police presence is way down, FOX and social media coverage of crime is way up, and people’s attitudes about violence and crime are open. After the pandemic, criminals went back to work too.

Blatant organized theft rings operate to sell on Amazon/online and are tracked by cameras. But that used to happen during shipping in Chicago with stuff sold on Maxwell Street, but it was a secret you didn’t really pay attention to.

It’s not a Biden problem. It’s a historical problem.
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https://www.wired.com/story/jd-vance-venmo/

First two paragraphs. The article is pretty long.
US senator J.D. Vance, an Ohio Republican and former US president Donald Trump’s pick for vice president, has a public Venmo account that gives an unfiltered glimpse into his extensive network of connections with establishment GOP heavyweights, wealthy financiers, technology executives, the prestige press, and fellow graduates of Yale Law School—precisely the elites he rails against. A WIRED analysis of the account, the people listed as Vance’s friends, and, in turn, the people listed as their friends highlights sometimes bizarre and surprising connections. Experts, meanwhile, worry that the information revealed by the peer-to-peer payment app raises the potential for stalking, trolling, and impersonation.

More than 200 people appear on Vance’s Venmo “friends” list. Among them is Amalia Halikias, government relations director at the Heritage Foundation—the conservative think tank coordinating the controversial Project 2025. So is an assistant US attorney for the Southern District of New York, among many other lawyers for the Department of Justice, frequently decried by Trump loyalists as enemies and part of the “deep state.” So are Jeff Flake, the famously anti-Trump former Arizona senator and current ambassador to Turkey; lobbyists from organizations like the Government Strategies Group; people affiliated with other conservative think tanks like the Hoover Institution and the American Enterprise Institute; journalists and media personalities like Bari Weiss and former Fox News host Tucker Carlson; and tech executives from Anthropic and AOL. (None of these people responded to requests for comment.)
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Zarathud wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2024 10:42 am That’s the issue. Police presence is way down, FOX and social media coverage of crime is way up, and people’s attitudes about violence and crime are open. After the pandemic, criminals went back to work too.

Blatant organized theft rings operate to sell on Amazon/online and are tracked by cameras. But that used to happen during shipping in Chicago with stuff sold on Maxwell Street, but it was a secret you didn’t really pay attention to.

It’s not a Biden problem. It’s a historical problem.
When you go into places and even the cured meats are locked away or big name stores are closing because they keep getting hit by these people it just is a bad look.

Or eBay. Amazing how many activation locked brand new MacBooks and iPhones there are for sale.

But when popcorn and a drink are $30 at the movies it’s hard not to feel like everyone has their hand in our pockets.
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Theater concessions is kind of a weird example. They've always been vastly overpriced because it's the only profit source for theaters.
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Big name stores are closing because of debt and changes in consumer behavior, not theft.

Locking up meat was the next grocery store “innovation” at WalMart just like self-check out, which also happened during the pandemic in the UK and Australia. And Subway where no one is jumping the counter to “steal” their meat. Testing out new anti-theft devices is nothing new. The latest is security tags under the price labels.
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There are stats, there are anecdotes and there are feelings.

You decide which is the most accurate.
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What an idiot. Who the hell does he think should reimburse him?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics ... den-campa/
Donald Trump has demanded compensation for funds spent campaigning against Joe Biden after the US president pulled out of the race for the White House.

Republicans should be “reimbursed for fraud”, Trump said, as the vice-president Kamala Harris emerged as the frontrunner to be the Democrat candidate.
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Gotta be so angry they spent their entire hate rally focused on a guy that's not even running anymore. :lol:
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I mean what are they going to do with all that Fuck Joe Biden swag they were trying to make money off of. Oddly enough, if TFG dropped out tomorrow, I'd still feel like saying TFG can eat a bag of dicks.

One does have to wonder what is on his mind to declare Biden's run fraudulent. He always seems to put massive amounts of what he is criming or hating or doing wrong in his gaslighting... um normal day to day communicating.
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Alefroth wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 3:05 pm What an idiot. Who the hell does he think should reimburse him?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics ... den-campa/
Donald Trump has demanded compensation for funds spent campaigning against Joe Biden after the US president pulled out of the race for the White House.

Republicans should be “reimbursed for fraud”, Trump said, as the vice-president Kamala Harris emerged as the frontrunner to be the Democrat candidate.
Naw, that's just how he conducts his own business so he's quick to see it in others.
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Smoove_B wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 3:08 pm Gotta be so angry they spent their entire hate rally focused on a guy that's not even running anymore. :lol:
Time to ring them dry of one-more-round of merchandise...

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He will still be fuckable in February.
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Alefroth wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 3:05 pm What an idiot. Who the hell does he think should reimburse him?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics ... den-campa/
Donald Trump has demanded compensation for funds spent campaigning against Joe Biden after the US president pulled out of the race for the White House.

Republicans should be “reimbursed for fraud”, Trump said, as the vice-president Kamala Harris emerged as the frontrunner to be the Democrat candidate.
It's funny in that he can't help but expose one enormous thing Biden dropping out did - it wasted a shit ton of their money and almost all the efforts they have been putting forth. Must sting.
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It's an unintended consequence I love to see.
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The plan to castrate the government;

https://www.propublica.org/article/vide ... erica-maga

A key ally to former President Donald Trump detailed plans to deploy the military in response to domestic unrest, defund the Environmental Protection Agency and put career civil servants “in trauma” in a series of previously unreported speeches that provide a sweeping vision for a second Trump term.

“In private speeches delivered in 2023 and 2024, Russell Vought, who served as Trump’s director of the Office of Management and Budget, described his work crafting legal justifications so that military leaders or government lawyers would not stop Trump’s executive actions.

He said the plans are a response to a “Marxist takeover” of the country; likened the moment to 1776 and 1860, when the country was at war or on the brink of it; and said the timing of Trump’s candidacy was a “gift of God.””
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I hope they've got a popemobubble ready for him, or never let him out of the white house, although I fully understand that once the regime change happens, he'll just be a figurehead and the real villains will be everywhere.
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The Paypal Mafia would welcome marshall law with Shady as POTUS. That would be the best possible outcome for them. 99.999% of everyone better hope that doesn't happen.
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GreenGoo wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:50 pm I hope they've got a popemobubble ready for him, or never let him out of the white house, although I fully understand that once the regime change happens, he'll just be a figurehead and the real villains will be everywhere.
Next in succession would be Vance then Johnston if I recall my American politics correctly. I think they're cool with an expendable figurehead.
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It'll be whoever the speaker of the house is.
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Should Trump win, given his mental decline, he might actually be better for them as a martyr.
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The absolute worst thing about Trump potentially winning is the 24 hours Rip will be here afterwards.
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Not really, but - yes - funny.
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hepcat wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:47 am The absolute worst thing about Trump potentially winning is the 24 hours Rip will be here afterwards.
We should feel honoured. Normally he gets paid to troll, but we get it for free.
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Warming up. :horse:
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What was Alabama football's season like this past football season?
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Grifman wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:50 pm The plan to castrate the government;

https://www.propublica.org/article/vide ... erica-maga

A key ally to former President Donald Trump detailed plans to deploy the military in response to domestic unrest, defund the Environmental Protection Agency and put career civil servants “in trauma” in a series of previously unreported speeches that provide a sweeping vision for a second Trump term.

“In private speeches delivered in 2023 and 2024, Russell Vought, who served as Trump’s director of the Office of Management and Budget, described his work crafting legal justifications so that military leaders or government lawyers would not stop Trump’s executive actions.

He said the plans are a response to a “Marxist takeover” of the country; likened the moment to 1776 and 1860, when the country was at war or on the brink of it; and said the timing of Trump’s candidacy was a “gift of God.””
I am sadly familiar with Vought - he's an absolute zealot and shouldn't be allowed within thousands of miles of authority of any sort.
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Yay, let’s turn to government over to the crazies:

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