Deadpool & Wolverine

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Sun Jul 28, 2024 11:57 pm

Funny movie,

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over the top, silly at times, but just fun in the end. The one cameo swerve was great, and totally unexpected.

My only complaint, and it is a minor one, is that sometimes it was hard to read the movie, was it going to go for more silliness/craziness, or play it straight? Luckily, I think for the most part they made the right decisions at those points, but it was kind of jarring at times.

Still, a fun, if not great movie, and the best Deadpool movie of the three. It will be interesting if he does make it into the Avengers in some way, shape or form.

AWS260 · Post by **AWS260** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:06 am

Seeing this reminded me how much fun it is to watch a movie in a packed theater full of people having a great time. There were lots of laughs, gasps, and a generally good vibe all around us.

The movie itself is a hoot. I did a pretty good job of avoiding spoilers, so I was really happy to see

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That said, I would be perfectly happy if this is the last time we see Deadpool. A bit of Deadpool goes a long way, and this was a LOT of Deadpool.

edit to add that Emma Corrin was really great - entertaining and charismatic. I hadn't seen her in anything else before this.

JCC · Post by **JCC** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:49 am

Saw it yesterday and thought it was great. I like the Deadpool movies, because they all have pretty good to great superhero stories. And, I love Deadpool movies because they are filthy and hilarious. Deadpool 3 checked those boxes nicely. And yes, the one "surprise" cameo was one of the best laughs of the movie. Thumbs up.

I hope Ryan keeps wanting to make these! I am sure given the box office numbers, Disney probably wants another one.

stimpy · Post by **stimpy** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:52 am

JCC wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:49 am Saw it yesterday and thought it was great. I like the Deadpool movies, because they all have pretty good to great superhero stories. And, I love Deadpool movies because there are filthy and hilarious. Deadpool 3 checked those boxes nicely. And yes, the one "surprise" cameo was one of the best laughs of the movie. Thumbs up.

I hope Ryan keeps wanting to make these! I am sure given the box office numbers, Disney probably wants another one.

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JCC · Post by **JCC** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:55 pm

Re: Stimpy's spoiler: Yes that was the one!

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:57 pm

stimpy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:52 am
JCC wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:49 am Saw it yesterday and thought it was great. I like the Deadpool movies, because they all have pretty good to great superhero stories. And, I love Deadpool movies because there are filthy and hilarious. Deadpool 3 checked those boxes nicely. And yes, the one "surprise" cameo was one of the best laughs of the movie. Thumbs up.

I hope Ryan keeps wanting to make these! I am sure given the box office numbers, Disney probably wants another one.

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Are we talking about Johnny, because that was fantastic.....lol
I also clapped when Wesley showed up on screen

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EvilHomer3k · Post by **EvilHomer3k** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:22 pm

Absolutely everyone in our family loved it. My only complaint was

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I'm not sure we'll see another Deadpool. I'd love to but this seemed like the swansong.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:51 pm

EvilHomer3k wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:22 pm I'm not sure we'll see another Deadpool. I'd love to but this seemed like the swansong.

Or at least ...

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:55 pm

Wife and I saw it Sunday, the opening sequence was absolutely hilarious. Been a while since I laughed that much in a movie.

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Wed Jul 31, 2024 3:12 am

Lassr wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:55 pm Wife and I saw it Sunday, the opening sequence was absolutely hilarious. Been a while since I laughed that much in a movie.

I especially liked how

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Sudy · Post by **Sudy** » Thu Aug 01, 2024 9:09 pm

I enjoyed it, but I think that enjoyment waned as the film progressed. It really wasn't what I was expecting. And that's good! In a way. But...

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...it didn't feel like it was taking place in the world established by the first two Deadpool movies. And I mean, it literally didn't for half of it. But that's not what I mean. It felt like... a Fox X-Men movie. Which, as a massive love letter to the Fox franchises, was obviously intentional. And it was really cool. It's neat to see the MCU enmeshed with the Fox X-Men universe and beyond. But it's not what I signed up for. I suspect this pleased a whole lot of people of my generation though, and I'm happy for them.

I agree with the sentiment expressed in the film as a joke--I'm sick of the multiverse. That doesn't mean I'm not thankful for the cool and ridiculous things it allows to happen. But it further weakens the stakes of each story, and needlessly complicates things. Now, I can excuse that in a chaotic, fourth-wall-breaking Deadpool film. But it's exhausting.

Now that I've seen it, I don't think it was worth bringing Jackman back. I was so excited for it. But I just feel like a hyper-depressed, self-loathing, alternate-universe Logan is... well, depressing. And kind of a boring rehash. And all he did to become hated by his universe was go out for a beer while his X-Buddies were murdered? Did I miss something there? This franchise already has an amazing grumpy badass. His name is Cable/Josh Brolin.

I feel like the film tries to have its cake and eat it too with regard to respecting the events of Logan while being completely irreverent. (But at least they address it.) Which isn't to say that the opening credits weren't absolutely hilarious!

The "anchor being" concept is ludicrous. "Original" Logan was responsible for the existence of his entire universe? And it will take... 1,000-2,000 years to decay? What? So Logan needed to live forever for his universe to survive? What happened before he was born?

And... because Deadpool charmed the TVA lady, she just let Moperine and the other variants come live in his universe? I'm really bummed that most of the Deadpool cast only had glorified cameos. I agree that Domino was missed. I guess what I really wanted was Deadpool 2 2. I also don't buy that Vanessa essentially broke up with Wade because he didn't get into The Avengers (or whatever). If they wanted to explore their relationship difficulties that's fine. But their relationship was really the heart and soul of the first two films despite Vanessa's pseudo-fridging. But here she was pretty much written out so they could focus on Wolverine. I'd probably care less if I'd been satisfied with where they went with Logan.

But the cameos and appearances were great (especially the Johnny Storm/Evans reveal), and we wouldn't have had them any other way. Deadpool/Reynolds was hilarious as always. The fights/action scenes were fantastic (though had a bit too much going on sometimes). It was a fun time, just not the one I wanted.

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Thu Aug 01, 2024 10:07 pm

Sudy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 9:09 pm I enjoyed it, but I think that enjoyment waned as the film progressed. It really wasn't what I was expecting. And that's good! In a way. But...

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1. And all he did to become hated by his universe was go out for a beer while his X-Buddies were murdered? Did I miss something there?

2. The "anchor being" concept is ludicrous. "Original" Logan was responsible for the existence of his entire universe? And it will take... 1,000-2,000 years to decay? What? So Logan needed to live forever for his universe to survive? What happened before he was born?

3. And... because Deadpool charmed the TVA lady, she just let Moperine and the other variants come live in his universe?

4. I also don't buy that Vanessa essentially broke up with Wade because he didn't get into The Avengers (or whatever). If they wanted to explore their relationship difficulties that's fine. But their relationship was really the heart and soul of the first two films despite Vanessa's pseudo-fridging.

Numbered some of uour things to discuss.

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Sudy · Post by **Sudy** » Fri Aug 02, 2024 4:33 am

I will say that Jackman is 100% committed to the role and his acting is fantastic, even if the character only has two emotions.

Punisher wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 10:07 pm
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1. Yeah. They really should have fleshed that out more. Not enough info to explain but I wouldn't be surprised if they revisit it in a comic or something.

2. Yeah this also doesn't make sense. I'm assuming it was so that the movie could happen.

3. I'm going with, this is the newer and kinder TVA.

4. It didn't sound like she dumped him specifically for that. It sounded like they were having some issues already and when he got turned down, HE changed and became grumpy and sad. Either way, they should have really fleshed that out as well. Just doesn't seem realistic in universe.

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[Ugh, I lost half my post/the post-proofread version when I got logged out. Oh well. I'm too tired to re-write it.

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2. Re: anchor beings, I did read one one opinion stating this is a jab at Wolverine being the Fox mutant universe's only/main draw. But potential humorous intentions aside, bringing this concept into canon just seems way too problematic. Like if Wolverine was the Fox universe's anchor being, wouldn't it make sense Iron Man was the MCU's? And it's not like original Wolverine went out in an unexpected way involving time manipulation. And I don't think we observed him being that critical to the Fox timeline. Regardless, the universe taking 1,000-2,000 years to decay really isn't that threatening (outside of Paradox's intention to make it instantaneous). Who's to say civilization would survive that long anyway? (Can the TVA see into the far future?) I hope it gets swept under the rug, along with the whole TVA at some point. And I say that as someone who usually loves time travel/multiple universe plots.

Another thought; Logan was set in 2029, so how did Deadpool know he was dead/where to find him? Yeah, he had the time device so he could go anywhere. But that bit confused me. I'm not totally clear whether Logan took place in the main Fox continuity? I would presume not, or at least it was presented as one possible outcome in its own narrative space. And I guess they did their own timeline shenanigans in Days of Future Past that I don't totally remember. (Holy shit, that was ten years ago?!) But it seemed to be treated as part of the main continuity here. But I guess we're just supposed to accept it being hand waved because "Deadpool" and the timelines/multiverse being fractured to shit at this point.

3. Re: the TVA letting the "good guy" exiles back into Deadpool's/other universes, I haven't seen season 2 of Loki so I take it that's in line with the "'new, kinder" TVA you alluded to? But it still seemed out of character that they just dumped these variants (who I assume were all guilty of time crimes?) into the exile universe without a care, and now all of a sudden after one positive act battling their fellow exiled criminals they're willing to let them back into a universe where they don't belong (or back to the ones where they committed time crimes, presumably). But I guess they did save the multiverse. (Even though I don't think they knew Nova's plan at that point? I'm not sure if Nova even did.)

4. Re: Vanessa unceremoniously dumping Wade, yeah, I'm simplifying. But they just didn't spend enough time on it, and I found the timeline of it all confusing. The film's already made $550 million, so even if Reynolds says he's done with the role (at least for the foreseeable future), I hope we get a proper Deadpool sequel someday featuring the characters from the first two films in larger roles. I'd also love to see Brolin's Cable again (he was so good!), though it doesn't have to be in a Deadpool film. The shine's kind of off his antics at this point though I think.

Also, it was disappointing Wolverine dispatched Sabretooth so quickly given the importance of their relationship, variants from different universes or not. I get that was the point, but it was unsatisfying and I kind of wish he hadn't appeared at all.

Anyway, I imagine I have some of this stuff wrong. (I look forward to you guys clearing things up for me!) But as someone who's seen almost all of the films in each of these cinematic universes, if I was baffled/dismayed at times, I'm sure some other viewers were as well, and it means they could have done better. But, it's Deadpool. I'm glad they acknowledged Logan at all. It was fun!

TheMix · Post by **TheMix** » Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:24 am

Regarding

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Sudy · Post by **Sudy** » Fri Aug 02, 2024 12:54 pm

TheMix wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:24 am
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Did I miss some exiles in the final scene? All I remember was X-23. And if Deadpool's universe is the universe of Logan, then it is also her universe. I only saw Wolverine being allowed to stay in the 'wrong' universe. I assumed, when I saw X-23, that the others had been returned to their respective universes. However, if the others were in that final scene and I just missed them... well, then I suppose I'll just hush up.

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No, you're right... as far as I'm aware X-23 was the only one in the final scene. But was that that universe's X-23? Why on Earth would she have been exiled to the time criminal universe? And if Logan took place in 2029, and assuming X-23 was 11-12 during the events of that film, I assume the exiled X-23 was 18-19. Which would mean she "belonged" in 2036, approximately. So even if this is her universe, she's approximately twelve years out of sync with the timeline. And I believe we had good reason to believe that the events of that film didn't occur in what would have been the prime Fox universe.

Though I guess Earth-10005 in the MCU may not be the Foxiverse, as this is Deadpool's and Wolverine's first appearance in the MCU and we don't know if that's their intention. But I assume it's meant to be. I always assumed Deadpool took place in the main Foxiverse, but maybe stuff like Deadpool 2's Juggernaut suggests it didn't? Or it did, because Days of Future Past was a soft reset that occurred before Deadpool and everything was rewritten anyway? Deadpool 2 had that cameo/joke with the aged-down second X-Men cast appearing in modern times which made no sense, but it's Deadpool, so it's obviously not to be overthought. I just can't help it 'cause I'm a fuckin' nerd. And because I assume the MCU wants to establish some kind of continuity, unless Earth-10005 is completely a one-off bubbleverse of its own, and this is the only film that will take place in it, which also makes sense. They're rebooting X-Men (again), they have no reason to keep the Foxiverse on life support. It would be too confusing. So this wasn't just Deadpool's and Jackmanerine's swan song then, it was the entire Fox universe's. Which is supported by all the Fox love and the soppy (wonderful) behind-the-scenes clips during the credits.

Yes, I assume it's reasonable to assume Elektra, Blade, and Gambit were returned to their respective universes. But it seemed unlikely to me that the TVA would have allowed this given the time crimes (or whatever) they committed were severe enough to get them sent to the Madmaxiverse.

TheMix · Post by **TheMix** » Fri Aug 02, 2024 3:21 pm

Sudy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 12:54 pm
TheMix wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:24 am
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Did I miss some exiles in the final scene? All I remember was X-23. And if Deadpool's universe is the universe of Logan, then it is also her universe. I only saw Wolverine being allowed to stay in the 'wrong' universe. I assumed, when I saw X-23, that the others had been returned to their respective universes. However, if the others were in that final scene and I just missed them... well, then I suppose I'll just hush up.

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No, you're right... as far as I'm aware X-23 was the only one in the final scene. But was that that universe's X-23? Why on Earth would she have been exiled to the time criminal universe? And if Logan took place in 2029, and assuming X-23 was 11-12 during the events of that film, I assume the exiled X-23 was 18-19. Which would mean she "belonged" in 2036, approximately. So even if this is her universe, she's approximately twelve years out of sync with the timeline. And I believe we had good reason to believe that the events of that film didn't occur in what would have been the prime Fox universe.

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Also, I think you are way over-thinking it. At least if you want it to hold up at all.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:29 pm

Just got back.

FWIW, there are three Fox 'universes': 1. The original X-Men trilogy, plus Origins, the Wolverine, First Class, and the beginning of Days of Future Past, 2: The reboot universe from the 1/4 point of Days of Future Past on (First Class is technically in both - they didn't split the timeline until afterward), and 3: Logan, which is it's own universe.

Sudy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 9:09 pm I enjoyed it, but I think that enjoyment waned as the film progressed. It really wasn't what I was expecting. And that's good! In a way. But...

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1. And all he did to become hated by his universe was go out for a beer while his X-Buddies were murdered? Did I miss something there?

2. The "anchor being" concept is ludicrous. "Original" Logan was responsible for the existence of his entire universe? And it will take... 1,000-2,000 years to decay? What? So Logan needed to live forever for his universe to survive? What happened before he was born?

3. And... because Deadpool charmed the TVA lady, she just let Moperine and the other variants come live in his universe?

4. I also don't buy that Vanessa essentially broke up with Wade because he didn't get into The Avengers (or whatever). If they wanted to explore their relationship difficulties that's fine. But their relationship was really the heart and soul of the first two films despite Vanessa's pseudo-fridging.

Borrowing Punisher's numbers.

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Anyway, I loved it. There were so many references and Easter eggs that I'm going to have to wait until it's on video and do some pausing just to find them all. For instance, did anyone else notice that the...

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AWS260 · Post by **AWS260** » Mon Aug 05, 2024 11:33 pm

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Aug 06, 2024 9:30 am

Saw it recently. The first 20 minutes or so I was annoyed with all the references to Marvel and Feige directly. I realize breaking the fourth wall is Deadpool's schtick, but the movies have always had a way to avoid making it annoying and thus making it work for me. This didn't work for me.

But then they did what all the Deadpool movies have done: find the heart in all the absurdity. That's when it started working for me. Ryan and his folks are fantastic at realizing that 2 hours of juvenile jokes without a moral center or a reason to care about these characters just won't do the trick.

Some random thoughts:

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Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:58 am

Finally watched this yesterday (and helped it cross over the $1B threshold). Loved it, as expected. I agree with some of the nitpicks (particularly the Wolverine mask, which was Very Much Not Good), but the movie flew by and I was, to quote Maximus, entertained.

stimpy · Post by **stimpy** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:14 am

Saw it. Liked it.
I would rate the Deadpool movies from best to not as best in the order they are.
I dont think anything will be as good as the first fully correct movie introduction to Deadpool.
The second was a great followup.
And the third continues to be great popcorn entertainment.

I was worried they were going to bloat 3 with as many cameos and crossovers as possible.
And while there certainly were quite a few, I think they kept them to a enjoyable minimum.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:31 am

hepcat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 9:30 am I realize breaking the fourth wall is Deadpool's schtick...

What about gently nudging the 4th wall?

The Proposal.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:38 am

That part made me chuckle for sure.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Tue Aug 13, 2024 4:52 pm

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Aug 13, 2024 5:06 pm

I had not heard of drone shows before this. That’s very cool.

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Wed Aug 14, 2024 11:19 pm

hepcat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 9:30 am.

However, I'm still going to rail against the MOST nitpicky thing in superhero films that you can possible nitpick on: why the hell do you need to point with your hands/fingers at something you're about to move with your mind? Just toss people around or whatever. You don't need to mimic what you're going to do with your hands or fingers, for crying out loud. I guess it's just an affectation though. Just like Xavier putting his fingers to his temples when he does something telepathic. I'm waiting for a telekinetic character who just grabs his crotch every time he moves something with his mind.

There is a book series called Wild Cards. I tjink it's written by Geore R.R. Martin
It's about an alien virus unleashed on earth.
Some people are immune. Some die outright. Some get random mutations. Some get super powers.
One person gets the power to teleport anyone he finger guns at. At one point he loses his pointer finger (maybe all? It's been a while) and he's trapped somewhere with an alien from tge planet who made the virus. They need to teleport out but his powers don't work because no fingers and the alien has to explain that it was never his fingers that did the work it was his mind. He eventually gets it to work but it takes a while
So it may be an affection but it's possible it has become a crutch to use her powers or anyone else with a similar issue.
I know pointing would help me aim my telekinetic or teleportation powers.

Victoria Raverna · Post by **Victoria Raverna** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 12:33 am

George R.R. Martin didn't write Wild Cards series. The series is a shared universe anthologies written by multiple writers including Martin. Martin was the sole editor for the series for the first 17 books.

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 12:34 am

Fair enough. It's been a while and I just remember his name on the cover.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:32 pm

Wild Cards is the superhero equivalent of Thieves' World.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 7:39 pm

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Tue Oct 08, 2024 2:31 pm

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:02 pm

Could Deadpool & Wolverine host the Oscars? Hmmmm maybe?

Deadpool & Wolverine Host the Oscars? Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman Are Reportedly Being Considered

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Oct 21, 2024 8:23 pm

wonderpug wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:19 pm
Blackhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:37 pm Goddammit. I absolutely hate those fake trailers. I don't mind fan trailers, but when they don't label them as such in order to sucker in views, they lose their appeal very quickly.
I recently spent way too much time and effort trying to figure out if a real trailer existed for Star Wars Skeleton Crew.

There is as of August 9th.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Wed Nov 13, 2024 2:41 pm

Deadpool & Wolverine is now streaming on Disney+.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Wed Nov 13, 2024 2:52 pm

Skeleton Crew looks good . Seems to be a feel good adventure with 4 kids trying to get back home while discovering Jedi and whats out there.

TheMix · Post by **TheMix** » Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:10 pm

Daehawk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 2:52 pm Skeleton Crew looks good . Seems to be a feel good adventure with 4 kids trying to get back home while discovering Jedi and whats out there.

Wrong thread, amigo.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:59 pm

TheMix wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:10 pm
Daehawk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 2:52 pm Skeleton Crew looks good . Seems to be a feel good adventure with 4 kids trying to get back home while discovering Jedi and whats out there.
Wrong thread, amigo.

I was posting about the video 2 post above that.

TheMix · Post by **TheMix** » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:21 pm

Still the wrong thread. But I get Issie gets the blame...

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:47 pm

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed Nov 13, 2024 10:38 pm

TheMix wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:21 pm Still the wrong thread. But I get Issie gets the blame...

I blame Wonderpug.