Who will be Kamala's VP?

[EvilHomer3k]

Walz will likely help a bit ore in MIchigan and Wisconsin than Shapiro. Wisconsinites don't hate Minnesotans like they do people from Illinois. Walz is a former teacher and was in the army so has some appeal with the middle class and military. There really isn't any baggage there. While I think Shapiro helps win Pennsylvania the new baggage may be too much. At worst it seems he won't be a distraction/negative. At best he helps win Wisconsin and Michigan.

[Blackhawk]

another example.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA1lObs8


I aslo can't follow what's wrong with what's being said by Harris here.


Here you can hear the actual word salad they are complaining about/making fun of:

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/ ... 4936915191

it's there. It's one skipped word. Once. And that's grabbed and used as if she's lost her mind.

I think every example I find is going to be like this.

That can actually just be a sign of high intelligence. If a highly intelligent speaker is slowing down their speech to be better understood, they often find themselves speaking one sentence while their mind is already on the next one. Every once in a while they miss a word because they're not on it, or their sentences bleed together.

The same effect can be seen in first-draft writing, where the brain is speedier than the pen.

[YellowKing]

Yeah that clip is an incredible stretch. She was probably planning to say either "the most important election of our lifetime" or "the election of our lifetime" and hybridized it. I do that kind of stuff all the time. Unlike the case with Trump's gobbledygook, however, the reporter knew exactly what she meant.

[Blackhawk]

I'm going to go ahead and register my vote for Walz.

[El Guapo]

Walz will likely help a bit ore in MIchigan and Wisconsin than Shapiro. Wisconsinites don't hate Minnesotans like they do people from Illinois. Walz is a former teacher and was in the army so has some appeal with the middle class and military. There really isn't any baggage there. While I think Shapiro helps win Pennsylvania the new baggage may be too much. At worst it seems he won't be a distraction/negative. At best he helps win Wisconsin and Michigan.

What is the new baggage?

[EvilHomer3k]

Walz will likely help a bit ore in MIchigan and Wisconsin than Shapiro. Wisconsinites don't hate Minnesotans like they do people from Illinois. Walz is a former teacher and was in the army so has some appeal with the middle class and military. There really isn't any baggage there. While I think Shapiro helps win Pennsylvania the new baggage may be too much. At worst it seems he won't be a distraction/negative. At best he helps win Wisconsin and Michigan.

What is the new baggage?

https://www.salon.com/2024/08/02/should ... nt-claims/

[Unagi]

That can actually just be a sign of high intelligence. If a highly intelligent speaker is slowing down their speech to be better understood, they often find themselves speaking one sentence while their mind is already on the next one. Every once in a while they miss a word because they're not on it, or their sentences bleed together.

The same effect can be seen in first-draft writing, where the brain is speedier than the pen.

Yeah, I'll just say you are helping make my point here.

[LordMortis]

Yeah, that's me and my writing. I'm highly intelligent. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

[Alefroth]

I'm not saying you came to mind as an example, but I'm not saying you didn't.

[Holman]

Quoting this just because this is a thing Twitter does:

https://twitter.com/DanGreenMN/status/1 ... 0226684242

Accurate? Who knows? But the same "bunch of black Suburbans just pulled up" thing happened at the JD Vance residence the evening before Trump's announcement.

EDIT: Annnd... Governor Walz has said that this is his local state motorcade. (Which is, of course, not a VP denial.)

[Jaymann]

Oh man. I sincerely think Walz can put Harris over the top. He plays well with every (sane) group.

[Newcastle]

Great pick if its Waltz.
I think w/ Shapiro that sexual harassment situation would be a massive albatross on Kamala. Also if one of her attack lines against Trump is "he's a sexual predator"; Trump & Company can simply fire back and say "Hey look at Shapiro".

[RunningMn9]

After seeing Pete Buttigieg on various news shows I really wish he was on the ticket. And who knows since the selection process is ongoing. Yeah I know the issue that would give Harris pause but I’m tired of that as well. So much talent being held back because of homophobia.

I think Buttigieg is a natural leader and would be great, but I’m ok with him sitting this one out. Not sure he’s the right fit to take on Trump/Vance with Harris. Maybe a top of the ticket run in 4 or 8 years?

He really needs a run in and win a real election before trying out for President. Without any real comparable experience in an Executive branch, no legislative experience at all. Being good at messaging can help you as President, but it is not sufficient to be President.

[YellowKing]

Trump & Company can simply fire back and say "Hey look at Shapiro".

To be fair, Shapiro wasn't accused of sexual harrassment; he was just accused of not doing enough to address it/sweeping claims under the rug. Still, Trump wouldn't let facts stand in the way of labeling Shapiro a sexual predator.

[Jaymann]

Trump & Company can simply fire back and say "Hey look at Shapiro".

To be fair, Shapiro wasn't accused of sexual harrassment; he was just accused of not doing enough to address it/sweeping claims under the rug. Still, Trump wouldn't let facts stand in the way of labeling Shapiro a sexual predator.

Heck, DonOld won't let facts stand in the way of labeling Harris a sexual predator.

[Apollo]

The claims against Shapiro allowing "sexual harassment" in his administration reminds me of when Biden announced in 2019 and almost immediately several women came out and tried to end his campaign by accusing him of touching them in inappropriate ways in an attempt to sink his candidacy. All the talk leading up to the 2020 election on the Left was about how the Dems must run a female minority in the aftermath of "Me Too" and "BLM" (Forgetting they had run women and/or minority candidates in the previous 3 Presidential races) and therefore many of the Far Left were outraged by Biden being the favorite. Of course, when it was revealed that Biden was simply doing things like gently touching their back while speaking to them, the story died. I sense the same sort of ambush here. And when Shapiro gets dragged through the mud by these folks I think we can kiss Pennsylvania goodbye.

There's a large part of the Left that is becoming increasingly racist, sexist, ageist and anti Semitic to the point that I no longer feel we have the high ground on issues of Civil Rights or Social Justice. I feel that Far Left has wandered into the weeds and are tying the party to a lot of unpopular stances on many issues, while the majority of Rank and File Democrats don't agree at all with these folks. As much as I want to see Kamala win, bouncing Biden, who was nominated by millions, was a slap in the face to these people and a serious blow to the idea that Democrats are trying to "save Democracy". So what the Fuck do we stand for anymore?

Sorry to be so incoherent, but I guess what I'm trying to say is that I think the Democratic party is being taken over by Progressive Elites, who have many allies in the mainstream media and on social media, and I definitely don't think it will help the party. I'll vote for Kamala because of Trump but after that I think I'm as done with the Democratic Party as I am with Liberalism in general, despite the fact that I believe all the same things I believed in 2014, when I was considered a mainstream Democrat. You know, when we actually helped people that needed help with things like the Affordable Care act and raising the minimum wage, and worker's rights, etc, etc. Those were the days...

[Newcastle]

Trump & Company can simply fire back and say "Hey look at Shapiro".

To be fair, Shapiro wasn't accused of sexual harrassment; he was just accused of not doing enough to address it/sweeping claims under the rug. Still, Trump wouldn't let facts stand in the way of labeling Shapiro a sexual predator.

True, but the point is he allowed it to happen under his watch. That's the argument that they can launch at him. Furthermore, if this a pro woman campaign; can you really allow someone who allowed sexual harassment to be "swept it under the rug" be your pick?

Trump will judo any attack on him and use some sort of attack line along those lines. My two cents.

[gbasden]

There's a large part of the Left that is becoming increasingly racist, sexist, ageist and anti Semitic to the point that I no longer feel we have the high ground on issues of Civil Rights or Social Justice.

Uh. I... What? How is the left racist or sexist? I think ageist is a significant exaggeration. Given Pelosi and a lot of other elder statespeople on the left are embraced, I think it has a lot more to do with demonstrated issues than with a blanket condemnation of old people. I think anti-semitic is also super unfair. One can believe that the actions of the state of Israel are wrong and immoral without hating Jewish people just like I can believe that the actions of the state of Texas are wrong without hating the people of Houston. And you think that the left is worse on civil rights and social justice than the party who celebrated the Charleston rally where they chanted "Jews will not replace us"? Worse than the party that is systematically trying to disenfranchise black voters? Worse than the party that is taking away women's bodily autonomy and is trying to implement Giliad?

I do not understand how you have come to this conclusion.

[Victoria Raverna]

Anyone that say anything bad about Israel's actions is anti-Semitic?

[Unagi]

The claims against Shapiro allowing "sexual harassment" in his administration reminds me of when Biden announced in 2019 and almost immediately several women came out and tried to end his campaign by accusing him of touching them in inappropriate ways in an attempt to sink his candidacy. All the talk leading up to the 2020 election on the Left was about how the Dems must run a female minority in the aftermath of "Me Too" and "BLM" (Forgetting they had run women and/or minority candidates in the previous 3 Presidential races) and therefore many of the Far Left were outraged by Biden being the favorite. Of course, when it was revealed that Biden was simply doing things like gently touching their back while speaking to them, the story died. I sense the same sort of ambush here. And when Shapiro gets dragged through the mud by these folks I think we can kiss Pennsylvania goodbye.

There's a large part of the Left that is becoming increasingly racist, sexist, ageist and anti Semitic to the point that I no longer feel we have the high ground on issues of Civil Rights or Social Justice. I feel that Far Left has wandered into the weeds and are tying the party to a lot of unpopular stances on many issues, while the majority of Rank and File Democrats don't agree at all with these folks. As much as I want to see Kamala win, bouncing Biden, who was nominated by millions, was a slap in the face to these people and a serious blow to the idea that Democrats are trying to "save Democracy". So what the Fuck do we stand for anymore?

Sorry to be so incoherent, but I guess what I'm trying to say is that I think the Democratic party is being taken over by Progressive Elites, who have many allies in the mainstream media and on social media, and I definitely don't think it will help the party. I'll vote for Kamala because of Trump but after that I think I'm as done with the Democratic Party as I am with Liberalism in general, despite the fact that I believe all the same things I believed in 2014, when I was considered a mainstream Democrat. You know, when we actually helped people that needed help with things like the Affordable Care act and raising the minimum wage, and worker's rights, etc, etc. Those were the days...

Look - you have a choice. Make it.

If you care (actually) about any of those things you say you care about - your choice should be pretty obvious.

*I'm not saying it's a pretty world or that your choices are what you wish your choices were.

[pr0ner]

The final answer is Walz.

[YellowKing]

I think it was the right call. Shapiro just had too many angles of attack. It's a safe pick that won't rock the boat, it may help shore up the blue wall states, and Walz has been extremely good at attacking MAGA which will make him an excellent ally on the campaign trail.

[Dogstar]

https://twitter.com/patrick_fenelon/sta ... iSH7b3rfqQ

[Holman]

I'm so relieved! Walz is gonna be fun.

He is also very genuinely what JD Vance desperately pretends to be. I wonder if they'll even have a debate.

[waitingtoconnect]

The picture of the piglet seals it for me. The piglet is American democracy.

[LawBeefaroni]

The picture of the piglet seals it for me. The piglet is American democracy.

Future bacon?

[Holman]

Walz served in the Army National Guard for 24 years as Enlisted. That's going to resonate with a lot of people. (Most politician-veterans went in from college as officers.)

[Exodor]

I'm so relieved! Walz is gonna be fun.

I'm thrilled - and realized that while Shapiro was the logical "must win Pennsylvania" choice I didn't see anyone on the internet excited about the idea of him as VP. I saw a lot of excitement about Walz.

I think it's a great choice and I can't wait to see him on the campaign trail.

[LawBeefaroni]

He may peel off some purple state 2A "fudds" as well. This appears to be a good electoral pick.

[Unagi]

The media is going to have their work cut out for them.

[LawBeefaroni]

The media is going to have their work cut out for them.

Negative clicks are rhe easiest clicks but they may ride the popularity wave if it continues to sell.

[Unagi]

Let's hope!

[Dogstar]

https://twitter.com/freeyourmindkid/sta ... iSH7b3rfqQ

(Apparently I’m settling in to being a Walz hype man this morning.)

[Holman]

Here's the first attack I've seen:

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1 ... 1252630805

Is the suggestion here that Walz is a creep because he... values childrens' education?

Ben Shapiro is weird.

[Skinypupy]

Walz wasn’t on my radar at all when this process started (I knew very little about him) but the more I see of him the more I like.

Solid choice.

[YellowKing]

Walz after signing bill giving free school breakfast and lunches to Minnesota kids, regardless of income. This guy is literally the anti-Vance.

[LordMortis]

The media is going to have their work cut out for them.

Oh they'll try. We'll see what happens. I dunno enough about him to know what happens but I do know they tried with Obama and came up with things like tan suits.

[Newcastle]

Game. Set. Match. in theory

Now the hard work begins.

I think he will do well. Really excited to see how he scrambles the race now.

[hepcat]

Anyone that say anything bad about Israel's actions is anti-Semitic?

Unfortunately, to some it is. They're primarily on the right these days.

[The Meal]

Now the hard work begins.

You’re not wrong.

It’s W-A-L-Z.