Too soon to start thinking about 2024?

[em2nought]

The market tanked today in Japan. Likely won't be good for the democrat side. Somebody better get to spinning.

[hepcat]

Trump already has. He's blaming Kamala for not being black enough.

[Unagi]

Turned on the TV this morning and... for the past 10 months it's been "the fed can't cut rates before the election because they can't make it look like they are working for Biden." Today, when it appears they overshot unemployment and inflation is almost at target and will likely overshoot at present rate, the first thing I hear is "be careful what you wish for. Cuts demonstrate a broken economy." Turned the TV off.

Also the Harris statement is exactly what I wanted.

Yeah, I heard the news on the economy this morning and thought: "Oh fuck off, I'm so sick of this media"

[Holman]

The market tanked today in Japan. Likely won't be good for the democrat side. Somebody better get to spinning.

Somebody will surely be spinning that Biden/Harris controls Japanese fiscal policy.

Oh, wait. You basically just did.

[Scraper]

The market tanked today in Japan. Likely won't be good for the democrat side. Somebody better get to spinning.

I have a feeling this isn't going to age well. Even with the so called "market tank", it was still roughly 10K points higher than on August 6th of 2020 (Trumps last August).

[geezer]

Trump already has. He's blaming Kamala for not being black enough.

Apparently it’s “Kamabla” today, whatever that means. The guy has the brain of an 8-year-old.

[LordMortis]

Trump already has. He's blaming Kamala for not being black enough.

Apparently it’s “Kamabla” today, whatever that means. The guy has the brain of an 8-year-old.

I'd give him 12.

[hepcat]

Trump already has. He's blaming Kamala for not being black enough.

Apparently it’s “Kamabla” today, whatever that means. The guy has the brain of an 8-year-old.

I'd give him 12.

Phrasing!

[Unagi]

Trump already has. He's blaming Kamala for not being black enough.

Apparently it’s “Kamabla” today, whatever that means. The guy has the brain of an 8-year-old.

Wait, is that 'bla' as in 'black' ?

[TheMix]

I assume it's another one of his "well thought out" nickname/insults and is short for "blah". You know, because she's so... boring, or something? Happily I don't understand how his mind works. But I think that it being short for "black" would be way too nuanced for him.

[Unagi]

I assume it's another one of his "well thought out" nickname/insults and is short for "blah". You know, because she's so... boring, or something? Happily I don't understand how his mind works. But I think that it being short for "black" would be way too nuanced for him.

not just short for 'black', but "short of" black, i.e. 'not black enough'

[LawBeefaroni]

Well, it's a new word and it trends . Like covvefe.

[TheMix]

I assume it's another one of his "well thought out" nickname/insults and is short for "blah". You know, because she's so... boring, or something? Happily I don't understand how his mind works. But I think that it being short for "black" would be way too nuanced for him.

not just short for 'black', but "short of" black, i.e. 'not black enough'

Really? There is zero chance that he thought that up.

[LordMortis]

I assume it's another one of his "well thought out" nickname/insults and is short for "blah". You know, because she's so... boring, or something? Happily I don't understand how his mind works. But I think that it being short for "black" would be way too nuanced for him.

This was me. Boring or more likely "blah blah blah"

[hepcat]

Well, it's a new word and it trends . Like covvefe.

covvefe is the past tense of covfefe when used in a sentence.

[Archinerd]

Well, it's a new word and it trends . Like covvefe.

covvefe is the past tense of covfefe when used in a sentence.

Are you sure? It's been awhile since I've been in health class but I thought covvefe was a veneral disease you could get from unportected sex with a La-Z-Boy.

[LordMortis]

Are you sure? It's been awhile since I've been in health class but I thought covvefe was a veneral disease you could get from unportected sex with a La-Z-Boy.

Got the Cloudy Covvefe Table? A shot'll clear it right up...

Of course you could just take the Pledge for marriage and you won't have worry about that sort of thing.

[hepcat]

The Crevice King strikes again!

“It’s not a cup holder when I'M sitting there.”

[Isgrimnur]

The Inflation Reduction Act (that tackles climate change for the first time and authorizes Medicare to negotiate drug prices)

Biden admin announces results of historic Medicare drug price negotiations that will save $6B

Medicare’s new power to negotiate drug prices will lead to an estimated $6 billion in savings for the federal government and a $1.5 billion reduction in out-of-pocket costs for seniors when the lower prices take effect in 2026, the Biden administration announced Thursday.

The negotiation program, which was authorized by the 2022 Inflation Reduction Act, has been a central talking point of the White House’s efforts to lower Americans’ cost of living, including for prescription medications, after inflation skyrocketed during President Joe Biden’s term. Vice President Kamala Harris is expected to continue campaigning on reducing drug prices in the runup to November’s election.
...
Biden and Harris are expected to trumpet the results of the program in Maryland on Thursday afternoon in their first joint appearance since Biden announced he would not run for reelection and Harris replaced him as the Democratic nominee.
...
Medicare wrangled savings of between 38% and 79% off the 2023 list prices of 10 drugs subject to negotiations, according to the Department of Health and Human Services.
...
The $6 billion in savings for Medicare represents a 22% reduction in total net spending on the medications, which factors in the rebates and discounts. Officials cannot provide details about the net cost cuts for each medicine since it is competitive information.
...
The medications are Eliquis, Jardiance, Xarelto, Januvia, Farxiga, Entresto, Enbrel, Imbruvica and Stelara, as well as Fiasp and certain other insulins made by Novo Nordisk, including NovoLog.

[LordMortis]

So I got stuck in front of linear TV for about 2 hours this morning while getting my infusion. ABC. For Michigan and linear TV morning ads, apparently we are at 2/3rds campaigning ads. Of those ads, it's about 2:1 for GOP ads vs democratic ads. Of the GOP ads 100 were negative vague or hyper instanced democrat attack ads with no plans of their own. Of the democratic ads 50% were positive accomplishment or goal ads and 50% were juxtaposition positive vs negative on accomplishment or goals ads. I know which is more effective for me. I can't speak to my in state brothers and sisters much less my in state brothers and sisters watching morning linear TV.

[Kraken]

I'm glad I don't live in a contested state. We get a little splash damage from advertising in NH, but it's fairly minor.

I wish there were a way to limit campaigns to a few months, as many other countries do. I think Kamala is benefiting a lot from being a fresh option in a campaign that's dragged on for four years, effectively.

[LawBeefaroni]

I'm glad I don't live in a contested state. We get a little splash damage from advertising in NH, but it's fairly minor.

I wish there were a way to limit campaigns to a few months, as many other countries do. I think Kamala is benefiting a lot from being a fresh option in a campaign that's dragged on for four years, effectively.

I don't live in a contested state but I do live in a state where I get ads for candidates in uncontested races, never mind contested ones. So I'm already getting too many ads. Apparently Trump and Harris really need money from me. Presumably to run more ads to ask me for more money.

[LordMortis]

I think this is a real ad...

[Unagi]

OMG I hope it is, that's spot the f on.

[LordMortis]

So on my walk jog this morning there were suddenly MAGA flags everywhere, which suggests to me I need to participate in the make sure you friggen vote movement. There was one thing that made me smile even if it's completely wrong and I fundamentally don't agree with it. So a hypocrite I be. But buried in all of these MAGA flags and lawn signs was a huge flag that looked like a "FUCK JOE BIDEN" MAGA flag. But this brave soul (whose messaging I can't condone even if it made me smile) had this huge ostentatious MAGA looking flag that states "FUCK TRUMP" "and fuck you for voting for him"

[Isgrimnur]

I think we're all hoping it's an extinction burst.

[LordMortis]

I think we're all hoping it's an extinction burst.

That was what I believed in 2012. Fool me three times and I won't get fooled again.

[Kraken]

My "Kamala Harris Obviously" yard sign and "Cats for Harris" garden flag form a lonely island amidst too many neighboring trump signs. We all know that Harris will carry MA by ~40 points so there's no real need to counter all the public support for a lost cause...but I'm moving in a few weeks, so fuck my neighbors.

I have seen a couple more Harris signs sprout up on my walking route, but they're still outnumbered by MAGAts.

[waitingtoconnect]

What have the democrats ever done for MA? Trump on the other hand never polluted Boston with a Trump building thus improving the city massively. (Maga logic)

[Scraper]

The market tanked today in Japan. Likely won't be good for the democrat side. Somebody better get to spinning.

Isn't it weird how we haven't heard anything more out of Em2 on this subject?

[Unagi]

The market tanked today in Japan. Likely won't be good for the democrat side. Somebody better get to spinning.

Isn't it weird how we haven't heard anything more out of Em2 on this subject?

Actually, Em2 always said that if the market in Japan ever tanked, he was going to take up high-intensity exercise using exercise bikes - so I just assume that's where he's been.

[LordMortis]

https://apnews.com/article/north-caroli ... a540a40665

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — A North Carolina judge refused to take Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s name off presidential ballots in the battleground state on Thursday, a day before the first batches of November absentee ballots are slated to be sent to registered voters who requested them.

Wake County Superior Court Judge Rebecca Holt denied the temporary restraining order sought by Kennedy to prevent county elections boards from distributing ballots affixed with his name and requiring it to be removed. State law directs the first absentee ballots for the Nov. 5 elections be mailed to requesters starting Friday. A Kennedy attorney said the decision would be appealed and Holt gave him 24 hours, ordering election officials not to send out ballots before noon Friday.

https://abc11.com/post/rfk-jr-ballot-la ... /15273455/

RALEIGH, N.C. -- A North Carolina appeals court on Friday ruled that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s name must be taken off state ballots for president, upending plans in the battleground state just as officials were about to begin mailing out the nation's first absentee ballots for the Nov. 5 presidential election.

The first absentee ballots for the Nov. 5 election were supposed to be mailed out Friday, but the court ruling forced election workers to delay so they can make new ballots without RFK Jr. as an option.

For someone who was supposed to be pulling votes away from democrats, he sure is trying hard to get off the ballot for his endorsement of TFG.

Because screwing with election results goes to which party again?

[LordMortis]

Interested to see the spin on the 50 basis point cut today. The economy is so horrible they had to cut by 50 points or this was done to win Harris the election and never should have happened. On a personal opinion grounded in ignorance note, I don't think we needed to cut rates. Rates are still at lows and profits are still at highs. Employment is still reasonable and inflation is somewhat tamed but by no means in a perfect state.

[El Guapo]

Interested to see the spin on the 50 basis point cut today. The economy is so horrible they had to cut by 50 points or this was done to win Harris the election and never should have happened.

Have you met Trump? The answer is both, even if those answers conflict with each other.

[LordMortis]

That's what I'm assuming.

[Carpet_pissr]

It will always be the negative side with that asshat: "Unemployment is so high that the Fed, in an unprecedented move, cut the rate by .5, people POINT FIVE. Never happened in history! Worst unemployment ever, so they are taking extreme measures here!"

[Isgrimnur]

Rates are still at lows

Say what, now?

20 year fixed rates are barely below 7%.

[LordMortis]

Rates are still at lows

Say what, now?

20 year fixed rates are barely below 7%.

Let me be more clear or perhaps amend to say low side of normal.

You mean 30 in the mid 6s (which is the standard I think of anyway) and they were about there in 2003 when I bought my house, thinking rates won't stay this low forever, as they were on the low side normal then. More importantly Fed rates were also at the low side of normal then, as they are at the low side of normal now. Well, normal leading in to the mid 2000's anyway.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/187 ... s-monthly/

https://www.macrotrends.net/2604/30-yea ... rate-chart

[Isgrimnur]

Part of my problem is seeing anything in this realm as 'normal'.

[Kraken]

While cleaning out my filing cabinet I learned that our original mortgage on this house in 1989 was at 11.09%. I hadn't remembered it being that high, but there it was.