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As an NC resident, this is fantastic

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... undecided/

1). Because the R candidate is a genuine nut job

2). This will certainly hurt Trump, dragging him down.

As I have said, he is just nuts, and in some ways, out MAGA’s Trump. He has said of his political opponents that “some need to to be killed”. He has said people need to stop depending upon the govt, yet for a number of years his wife ran a non-profit that got money from the state to help people qualify for govt benefits which paid both he and his wife salaries. They are now in trouble as the state govt says it wants over $132k back because they never submitted the documentation.

In addition he has declared bankruptcy in prior years and failed to pay taxes several years. Lastly he has railed against abortion, then it turned out he and his wife had an abortion. Now they have changed their tune and say the current state law is fine, which prohibits abortion after 12 weeks. All in all he’s a real piece of work.

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Kraken wrote:
Alefroth wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:34 am Surprised Musk has let that stay up.
Elon must be asleep. Glad I got to see it before it's suppressed because that is some quality video editing there.
That was AI generated, no? I don’t think those were actual clips edited together.
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Grifman wrote:As an NC resident, this is fantastic
I've gone on record with my friends predicting Harris will flip NC thanks to Robinson. And now I go on record here. :lol:
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Isgrimnur wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:31 am I’m willing to take that risk.
The facsimile is short enough and has been tuned enough that it doesn't trigger me. I'm glad I took the risk in the other direction, though it did require me to acknowledge a xhitter link.
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waitingtoconnect wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 7:59 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:13 pm [] Unserious article. Stop using "mid". Just stop.
Sorry, I’ll wrap the text from the article in quotes next time… sometimes it’s a bit hard to do it on the phone and I apologise for confusion but thought the meme coin was good to share in the context of the broader grift culture around trump.
Was directed at the article, not you.
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msteelers wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:40 am
Kraken wrote:
Alefroth wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:34 am Surprised Musk has let that stay up.
Elon must be asleep. Glad I got to see it before it's suppressed because that is some quality video editing there.
That was AI generated, no? I don’t think those were actual clips edited together.
The audio was clearly original work, but like Kraken, I also thought the video was a series of spliced interview clips, not AI-generated images (although AI may have helped splice videos?)
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LordMortis wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 8:29 am
Isgrimnur wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:31 am I’m willing to take that risk.
The facsimile is short enough and has been tuned enough that it doesn't trigger me. I'm glad I took the risk in the other direction, though it did require me to acknowledge a xhitter link.
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Unagi wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:19 am
msteelers wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:40 am
Kraken wrote:
Alefroth wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:34 am Surprised Musk has let that stay up.
Elon must be asleep. Glad I got to see it before it's suppressed because that is some quality video editing there.
That was AI generated, no? I don’t think those were actual clips edited together.
The audio was clearly original work, but like Kraken, I also thought the video was a series of spliced interview clips, not AI-generated images (although AI may have helped splice videos?)
The video clips were spliced real clips, but they were tweaked with AI for things like lip syncing.
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Blackhawk wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:53 am
Unagi wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:19 am
msteelers wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:40 am
Kraken wrote:
Alefroth wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:34 am Surprised Musk has let that stay up.
Elon must be asleep. Glad I got to see it before it's suppressed because that is some quality video editing there.
That was AI generated, no? I don’t think those were actual clips edited together.
The audio was clearly original work, but like Kraken, I also thought the video was a series of spliced interview clips, not AI-generated images (although AI may have helped splice videos?)
The video clips were spliced real clips, but they were tweaked with AI for things like lip syncing.
The Putin part was all AI or voice acting. I'm going to assume most of the Trump was too, or splicing individual words. Not that he didn't say or do most of that but it's the easy way.
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Trump mocks Lindsay graham- graham goes on cnn to defend him… and does he look like he’s been crying??


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Tech bros and the super rich must need at least one state where they can get abortions for their families.

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Just a personal observation, not sure how much this carries over at large. BUT, over the weekend I attended a local GOP fundraiser (Please don't ask me why). I live in a very red and Trump friendly area. To say that the Trump enthusiasm at this event was noticeably down from prior presidential election year events is an understatement. I actually had one of the people there lean over to me and say "It's not looking good for Trump is it?". To which I responded "nope". This person is currently running for a rather important office as a GOP candidate no less. The whole energy of the event just seemed off, like everyone knew he was going to lose but couldn't bring themselves to openly admit it.

Lets hope my observations were correct, but I'm still not sure how much that carries over at large.

I will be attending the GOP Fall dinner for my county in late September so I'll be curious to see how a room full of 300+ hardcore GOP voters are feeling a month from now and with just a month to go before the election.
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Scraper wrote:Just a personal observation, not sure how much this carries over at large. BUT, over the weekend I attended a local GOP fundraiser (Please don't ask me why). I live in a very red and Trump friendly area. To say that the Trump enthusiasm at this event was noticeably down from prior presidential election year events is an understatement. I actually had one of the people there lean over to me and say "It's not looking good for Trump is it?". To which I responded "nope". This person is currently running for a rather important office as a GOP candidate no less. The whole energy of the event just seemed off, like everyone knew he was going to lose but couldn't bring themselves to openly admit it.

Lets hope my observations where correct, but I'm still not sure how much that carries over at large.

I will be attending the GOP Fall dinner for my county in late September so I'll be curious to see how a room full 300+ hardcore GOP voters are feeling a month from now and with just a month to go before the election.
This is encouraging even if it might mean nothing. Those Trumpers need to do some soul searching. Thanks for sharing.


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I'm not worried about the openly deplorable base that is going to vote for him no matter what. That there are fewer numbers of visible folks isn't surprising. Instead I'm concerned there's still quite a few people that aren't openly admitting to it but won't hesitate to vote for him in November behind a curtain.
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I think the number of "secret" Trump voters is likely to be outweighed by enthusiastic new voters and unenthusiastic Republicans who just stay home. I'm not particularly concerned about some sizeable hidden contingent that polls are somehow not capturing. Polls are also not capturing young voters who don't answer polls.

I think it's more likely that your Republican neighbors are going to secretly vote for Harris behind the curtain than the other way around.
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We can only hope, but I would really like the results to be so overwhelmingly Harris that there's no question who won. At this point based on the lack of campaigning, TFG either knows he's lost -or- he's confident the local officials are in his pocket.

I'm tired of every election being the most important election of my lifetime. :)
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The comment the man made at the end of that video was depressing and a bit frustrating, but he phrased it in a way that made me question something. He said something to the effect of "it's sad that the election only comes down to a few states, because we already know the outcome for the others." Broadly paraphrasing there, but my question is (and I know the EC sucks, and why) was he making a reference to gerrymandering? We think we know what those 43 states will do because they are so heavily red or blue? How is that specifically a problem? Surely it's ok to assume that Mass is going to be blue with no surprise whatsoever? Or is he maybe referring to the unfair number of assigned electoral votes?
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I'm taking it to mean that we already know how the EC is going to sort 43+ states and once again the election will come down to the EC results in ~5, specifically related to whatever EC nonsense has them configured in such a way as to let 80,000 people decide the election.

Over the weekend I saw someone comment on social media that the Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks and I can't stop thinking about it.
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Scraper wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 10:26 am Just a personal observation, not sure how much this carries over at large. BUT, over the weekend I attended a local GOP fundraiser (Please don't ask me why). I live in a very red and Trump friendly area. To say that the Trump enthusiasm at this event was noticeably down from prior presidential election year events is an understatement. I actually had one of the people there lean over to me and say "It's not looking good for Trump is it?". To which I responded "nope". This person is currently running for a rather important office as a GOP candidate no less. The whole energy of the event just seemed off, like everyone knew he was going to lose but couldn't bring themselves to openly admit it.

Lets hope my observations were correct, but I'm still not sure how much that carries over at large.

I will be attending the GOP Fall dinner for my county in late September so I'll be curious to see how a room full 300+ hardcore GOP voters are feeling a month from now and with just a month to go before the election.
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Carpet_pissr wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 11:33 am The comment the man made at the end of that video was depressing and a bit frustrating, but he phrased it in a way that made me question something. He said something to the effect of "it's sad that the election only comes down to a few states, because we already know the outcome for the others." Broadly paraphrasing there, but my question is (and I know the EC sucks, and why) was he making a reference to gerrymandering? We think we know what those 43 states will do because they are so heavily red or blue? How is that specifically a problem? Surely it's ok to assume that Mass is going to be blue with no surprise whatsoever? Or is he maybe referring to the unfair number of assigned electoral votes?
I wouldn't look at it as depressing. When people talk about swing states they mean states where the winner won by 3% or less. That statistic has nothing to do with whether a state will reliably vote either red or blue. On the contrary, the fact that Georgia was able to flip blue in 2020 is huge! Similarly, people forget that prior to 2008 Virginia voted for the Republican nominee every single time. So even though a state may not flip-flop every election, the ground game still needs to be there - especially if the trend is for a state to come closer and closer to flipping with every election (looking at you Texas!).
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raydude wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 11:54 am
Scraper wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 10:26 am Just a personal observation, not sure how much this carries over at large. BUT, over the weekend I attended a local GOP fundraiser (Please don't ask me why). I live in a very red and Trump friendly area. To say that the Trump enthusiasm at this event was noticeably down from prior presidential election year events is an understatement. I actually had one of the people there lean over to me and say "It's not looking good for Trump is it?". To which I responded "nope". This person is currently running for a rather important office as a GOP candidate no less. The whole energy of the event just seemed off, like everyone knew he was going to lose but couldn't bring themselves to openly admit it.

Lets hope my observations were correct, but I'm still not sure how much that carries over at large.

I will be attending the GOP Fall dinner for my county in late September so I'll be curious to see how a room full 300+ hardcore GOP voters are feeling a month from now and with just a month to go before the election.
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YellowKing wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 11:04 am I think it's more likely that your Republican neighbors are going to secretly vote for Harris behind the curtain than the other way around.
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Smoove_B wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 11:12 am I'm tired of every election being the most important election of my lifetime. :)
Amen.
Smoove_B wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 11:40 am I'm taking it to mean that we already know how the EC is going to sort 43+ states and once again the election will come down to the EC results in ~5, specifically related to whatever EC nonsense has them configured in such a way as to let 80,000 people decide the election.

Over the weekend I saw someone comment on social media that the Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks and I can't stop thinking about it.
What makes me crazy is they all rail against the 5 - 10 states and the 20 - 90,000 voters that make the difference, as they are literally the most important votes, as if it's the fault of the swing state and voters within them and not the system at large that is so out of whack.
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I'd also put a significant amount of blame on the 40% of eligible voters who can't be bothered, once, every four years, to vote for President. In an age where you can early vote, request a mail-in ballot, etc. It literally takes all of 5 minutes. Once. Every 4 years. 5 minutes to decide the entire course of your nation.
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Very true. Though I believe they think it doesn't matter - their vote and/or the results. And maybe if they haven't experienced any direct, measurable consequences for not voting I can see why they wouldn't. But I can also totally understand if they think their vote doesn't matter as well - given the EC and how far the GOP has been pushing the last decade+ to suppress votes.
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Smoove_B wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:58 pm Very true. Though I believe they think it doesn't matter - their vote and/or the results. And maybe if they haven't experienced any direct, measurable consequences for not voting I can see why they wouldn't. But I can also totally understand if they think their vote doesn't matter as well - given the EC and how far the GOP has been pushing the last decade+ to suppress votes.
Exactly. I bet a big part of that 40% dismisses the notion that the president "decides the entire course of our nation" (they all lie, they are all corrupt, they are all the same, they never do anything for me, etc). I tend to think we here overinflate the importance of the actual role because we talk and read about it constantly (except the SC noms, that's a pretty big deal). Should He Who Shall Not be Named win, it will sure feel like a dark day, but we will continue, and survive (and probably thrive). It FEELS like if he wins, it's all over, but I am not sure I trust my brain on that particular feeling.

We also REALLY don't want a particular asshat representing us in any way shape or form. Or any asshat I guess, not just the orange, turdy despicable kind.
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Smoove_B wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 11:40 am I'm taking it to mean that we already know how the EC is going to sort 43+ states and once again the election will come down to the EC results in ~5, specifically related to whatever EC nonsense has them configured in such a way as to let 80,000 people decide the election.

Over the weekend I saw someone comment on social media that the Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks and I can't stop thinking about it.
Most flaws in democratic systems end them. Gerrymandering, such as occurs here and the electoral college favours republicans. And a a flawed judiciary model where now judges are increasingly a third chamber of the state house and congress needs reform.

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Fun fact: He is due for sentencing for his 34 felony convictions on September 18. At this point I'm glad it was delayed.
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Two more idiots jump in the clown car:

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status ... NcXCfN8s1g

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The grift goes on:

https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/stat ... NcXCfN8s1g

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Gabbard in charge of a regime change? The horror!
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Grifman wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 12:23 pm
I have to wonder why Gabbard was ever a Democrat.
Because she was living in Hawaii, I assume. Not much chance of getting elected to the House from there as a Republican.
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Grifman wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 12:25 pm The grift goes on:

https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/stat ... NcXCfN8s1g

It’s like having a piece of the True Cross.
The Shroud of Turd?

I'd add the RFJ Jr and Gabbard as headliners for transition should be an advertisement that he wants to lose, but it won't be. :roll:
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Grifman wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 12:25 pm The grift goes on:

https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/stat ... NcXCfN8s1g

It’s like having a piece of the True Cross.
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Grifman wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 12:25 pm The grift goes on:

https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/stat ... NcXCfN8s1g

It’s like having a piece of the True Cross.
Between this, the bibles, and the gold shoes, I feel like we’re living in the damn twilight zone. There’s no way this can be reality.
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Can I interest you in some tulip bulbs?
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Isgrimnur wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:26 pm Can I interest you in some tulip bulbs?
Nice 17th century Dutch market bubble throwback.
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Tulip bulbs at least flowered when planted in that much shit.
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Smoove_B wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 11:12 am We can only hope, but I would really like the results to be so overwhelmingly Harris that there's no question who won. At this point based on the lack of campaigning, TFG either knows he's lost -or- he's confident the local officials are in his pocket.

I'm tired of every election being the most important election of my lifetime. :)
The more the democrats win the more “fraud” there is…polling right now says it’s a dead heat.
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Grifman wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 12:25 pm The grift goes on:

https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/stat ... NcXCfN8s1g

It’s like having a piece of the True Cross.
So I expect this sort of thing from Trump the Huckster. The thing that annoys me are the people who still idolize a guy like this and have such an influence on politics today.
"Who's going to tell him that the job he's currently seeking might just be one of those Black jobs?"
-Michelle Obama 2024 Democratic Convention

Wise words of warning from Smoove B: Oh, how you all laughed when I warned you about the semen. Well, who's laughing now?
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