I kind of think we're coming at this from the wrong angle. Given that there are no "PAC disclaimers" purchases of these cards are going directly into Trump's pocket. Which means less money going to any Republican PACs. If anything we should encourage MAGA to part with their hard earned cash this way instead of giving money to help him win the election.$iljanus wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 4:35 pmSo I expect this sort of thing from Trump the Huckster. The thing that annoys me are the people who still idolize a guy like this and have such an influence on politics today.Grifman wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 12:25 pm The grift goes on:
https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/stat ... NcXCfN8s1g
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He'll just blow it all on porn stars and fraud.
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Given that it amounts to $7,425 to have dinner with him, he's pricing himself significantly under most other luminaries and pols. And Stormy Daniels. Anyone who buys these gets what they deserve.
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Read earlier (wish I would have saved the Tweet) that there’s a big ol’ disclaimer about these which specifies that it does NOT go to a PAC. Something along the lines of “purchase of these cards does not go towards any election funds to help re-elect President Trump”.raydude wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 7:11 pmI kind of think we're coming at this from the wrong angle. Given that there are no "PAC disclaimers" purchases of these cards are going directly into Trump's pocket. Which means less money going to any Republican PACs. If anything we should encourage MAGA to part with their hard earned cash this way instead of giving money to help him win the election.$iljanus wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 4:35 pmSo I expect this sort of thing from Trump the Huckster. The thing that annoys me are the people who still idolize a guy like this and have such an influence on politics today.Grifman wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 12:25 pm The grift goes on:
https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/stat ... NcXCfN8s1g
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They are pure grift.
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Seems like a missed opportunity for arm bands.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/27/us/p ... bbard.html
My ultra maga colleagues were talking about how these guys are going to t takeover and rebuild a more loyal andpatriotic Democrat party.
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Nothing says healthy democracy like a puppet opposition party.
It's almost as if people are the problem.
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McSweeney's nails the Campaign:
Will Someone Please Help Me Slander Kamala Harris in a Way That Sticks?
I have one job, which is to convince Americans that Kamala Harris is a lying, Antifa-loving child trafficker who drinks baby blood. I thought it would be easy, but it’s not going very well. Harris keeps rising in the polls, and my Trumpworld bosses are getting more erratic by the day , which, you know, is really saying something.
I’ve tried everything: whispers, hashtags, and a prime-time ad on the Tucker Carlson Network. But no matter how craftily I disseminate the Kamala libel, and no matter how many Republicans parrot the talking points, nothing seems to work.
What is happening? Eight years ago, this kind of stuff was a breeze. There was nothing I could throw at Hillary Clinton that didn’t stick
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This is another sign that Trump expects to lose the election.Skinypupy wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 9:09 pm Read earlier (wish I would have saved the Tweet) that there’s a big ol’ disclaimer about these which specifies that it does NOT go to a PAC. Something along the lines of “purchase of these cards does not go towards any election funds to help re-elect President Trump”.
They are pure grift.
He was running to stay out of jail, and for a while he thought he could pull it off, but now he's going to plan B: tying all his cases up in appeals and legal challenges until he dies or another Republican wins the White House.
Plan B is expensive, though. Expect more grift.
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Trump's team gets into physical altercation with Arlington cemetery staff
His campaign claims that the families "gave permission" for the PR stunt but it's against federal law. Although at this point, Trump has broken so many laws that this seems almost quaint.The incident occurred Monday after Trump laid wreaths at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier to honor the 13 Americans slain in a suicide bombing at the Kabul airport three years ago during the chaotic U.S. pullout from Afghanistan.
After laying the wreaths, Trump and members of his team accompanied family members of a slain soldier to his graveside in Section 60, where the cemetery's public affairs director tried to stop them from filming.
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The Trump campaign is a menace. Of course they violated the rules, they’re entitled amateurs.
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Trump claims he won California and Biden tried to assassinate him by whipping up hatred and saying he was a threat to democracy…
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-def ... after-2024
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“If Jesus Christ came down and was the vote counter, I would win California, OK?” Trump said. “In other words, if we had an honest vote counter, a really honest vote counter—I do great with Hispanics, great, I mean at a level no Republican has ever done—but if we had an honest vote counter, I would win California.”
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I saw this earlier today. Disgusting.gilraen wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:16 pm Trump's team gets into physical altercation with Arlington cemetery staffHis campaign claims that the families "gave permission" for the PR stunt but it's against federal law. Although at this point, Trump has broken so many laws that this seems almost quaint.The incident occurred Monday after Trump laid wreaths at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier to honor the 13 Americans slain in a suicide bombing at the Kabul airport three years ago during the chaotic U.S. pullout from Afghanistan.
After laying the wreaths, Trump and members of his team accompanied family members of a slain soldier to his graveside in Section 60, where the cemetery's public affairs director tried to stop them from filming.
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In the graveside thumbs up picture, what hand sign are the women flanking him flashing? It looks like devil's horns to me.
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https://twitter.com/highbrow_nobrow/sta ... NcXCfN8s1g
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Geez, I despise this man so much.
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Campaign has come out saying the "stranger was obviously experiencing a mental episode".
Disgusting doesn't begin to describe these fuckers.
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The U.S. Army has issued a rebuke of Trump's staff-
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I'm a little ticked off at the ANC not doing jack shit about it.
They defended the ANC employee, and state that she isn't filing charges...
Yeah??? Well, if they broke a federal law, that the ANC employee was trying to have respected - why are there no charges being filed by ANC?
They defended the ANC employee, and state that she isn't filing charges...
Yeah??? Well, if they broke a federal law, that the ANC employee was trying to have respected - why are there no charges being filed by ANC?
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Drumpf is always doing this. You interrupted me? That's dishonouring those who sacrificed for the country.Whoever this individual is spreading these lies are dishonoring the men and women of our armed forces, and they are disrespecting everyone who paid the price for defending our country,” LaCivita continued.
How in the fuck does stopping you from breaking the law (a law in place to specifically stop what drumpf was doing) dishonour the dead?
I fucking hate drumpf and his people so fucking much, it makes me wish the employee had defended themselves when the campaign staff put their hands on them. Grrr.
I hope they have more manpower on hand the next time drumpf tries to steal valour from this cemetery (or at least wrongfully use them as props for his clown show).
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Probably because the ANC has no authority to file charges. That's up to the prosecutors.Unagi wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:26 pm I'm a little ticked off at the ANC not doing jack shit about it.
They defended the ANC employee, and state that she isn't filing charges...
Yeah??? Well, if they broke a federal law, that the ANC employee was trying to have respected - why are there no charges being filed by ANC?
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Article stated that the employee chose not to go forward with charges. It's possible that it was just bad reporting. 

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In that case it's usually a question of the police asking whether they want to file a report, which would then be forwarded to prosecutors for a filing decision. Shorthand is often something along the lines of "pressing charges", but what they're really doing is urging the prosecutor to file charges.
But I think Unagi's point was less about the individual and whether he/she wanted to "press charges" and more about the Cemetery in its official, organizational capacity.
But I think Unagi's point was less about the individual and whether he/she wanted to "press charges" and more about the Cemetery in its official, organizational capacity.
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Because she fears for her safety. How awesome are we?GreenGoo wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:10 pm Article stated that the employee chose not to go forward with charges. It's possible that it was just bad reporting.![]()
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Yeah, so I guess I'm saying I don't want to hear that the ANC reports that their employee doesn't want to press charges, or whatever the phrase is - (because, yeah - what Alefroth just mentioned) - and that I want the Federal Law that is being discussed here, I want that law to "Kick In" - - and I don't think that should hinge on the individual employee wanting charges to be pressed or not.
So, I don't know who I should be ticked off at... but whoever should prosecute the violation of that law, should step up and prosecute the violation of that law.
So, I don't know who I should be ticked off at... but whoever should prosecute the violation of that law, should step up and prosecute the violation of that law.
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The District Attorney, most likely. Unless the involvement of Arlington National Cemetery (or Trump campaign officials) makes it federal somehow.Unagi wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:31 pm Yeah, so I guess I'm saying I don't want to hear that the ANC reports that their employee doesn't want to press charges, or whatever the phrase is - (because, yeah - what Alefroth just mentioned) - and that I want the Federal Law that is being discussed here, I want that law to "Kick In" - - and I don't think that should hinge on the individual employee wanting charges to be pressed or not.
So, I don't know who I should be ticked off at... but whoever should prosecute the violation of that law, should step up and prosecute the violation of that law.
Also seems reasonably likely that the relevant prosecutor hasn't made any final decision yet.
Black Lives Matter.
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I'll chill my jets, but leave them on deck.El Guapo wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 6:17 pmThe District Attorney, most likely. Unless the involvement of Arlington National Cemetery (or Trump campaign officials) makes it federal somehow.Unagi wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:31 pm Yeah, so I guess I'm saying I don't want to hear that the ANC reports that their employee doesn't want to press charges, or whatever the phrase is - (because, yeah - what Alefroth just mentioned) - and that I want the Federal Law that is being discussed here, I want that law to "Kick In" - - and I don't think that should hinge on the individual employee wanting charges to be pressed or not.
So, I don't know who I should be ticked off at... but whoever should prosecute the violation of that law, should step up and prosecute the violation of that law.
Also seems reasonably likely that the relevant prosecutor hasn't made any final decision yet.
But I think I was not clear.
There are two 'crimes' - one would be the assault on the person - which is the whole 'press charges' thing and speaks to the DA answer you gave me, I believe
But I am talking about the other crime, the federal law against using the hallowed grounds politically. I imagine that 'law' has little teeth that have never needed to be tested.
Although, come to think of it, didn't MTG do some photo-op there too? I imagine it's more common than I care to know.
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hallowedUnagi wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:23 pm But I am talking about the other crime, the federal law against using the hollowed grounds politically.
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Holy crap, that’s just insanely underhanded, if true. 

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And this brings up yet another crime, that of certain media outlets that should know better correcting the word for the Trump campaign without [sic]-ing it.
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It got (sic)'ed in Alefroth's CNN link, above.Zaxxon wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 8:42 pmAnd this brings up yet another crime, that of certain media outlets that should know better correcting the word for the Trump campaign without [sic]-ing it.
Trump campaign manager Chris LaCivita shared a similar account with CNN, saying in a statement that “President Trump was there on the invitation of the Abbey Gate Gold Star Families to honor their loved ones who gave the ultimate sacrifice for their country.”
“For a despicable individual to physically prevent President Trump’s team from accompanying him to this solemn event is a disgrace and does not deserve to represent the hollowed [sic] grounds of Arlington National Cemetery. Whoever this individual is spreading these lies are dishonoring the men and women of our armed forces, and they are disrespecting everyone who paid the price for defending our country,” LaCivita continued.
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I’m referring to the NYT, IIRC. Some places handled it correctly while others covered.
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You know what we are NOT seeing:
"I have been a lifelong Democrat, but I will be voting for a Republican in this election. Harris is a monstrosity, and that Trump fellow is making a lot of sense."
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There's Tulsi Gabbard which could fit the definition if you squint enough.
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In my defense, I was talking specifically about the ground where they actually dig out the holes.Zaxxon wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:13 pm I’m referring to the NYT, IIRC. Some places handled it correctly while others covered.



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