Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.

Kurth · Post by **Kurth** » Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:43 am

Truth does not matter. Not at all. Because, when you’re famous, you can say whatever you want.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Sat Sep 14, 2024 9:12 am

Every MAGA accusation is a confession...

waitingtoconnect · Post by **waitingtoconnect** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 5:04 am

Excepting of course that the draft never has gone away. It’sthe selective service.

And for some key skills you are always on call to be drafted by congress or the president .

And the republicans sent national guard units to Iraq.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:02 am

Harris might have Taylor Swift's endorsement, but that's nothing compared to Trump being backed by none other than Ricky Jam!

Donald Trump Mistakenly Introduces Male Latin Singer Nicky Jam at Rally as a Woman: ‘Do You Know Nicky? She’s Hot!’

Reggaetón singer Nicky Jam is backing Donald Trump for president — but Trump was apparently under the mistaken impression that he was a “hot” woman.

At Trump’s campaign rally Friday in Las Vegas, the GOP presidential candidate announced the endorsement of “Latin music superstar Nicky Jam”: “Do you know Nicky? She’s hot!”

Trump, peering into the crowd, continued, “Where’s Nicky? Where’s Nicky? Thank you, Nicky. Great to be having you here.”

When the bestubbled Nicky Jam — wearing a “Make America Great Again” hat — emerged from the crowd onto the stage and shook Trump’s hand, Trump realized his error and said, “Oh look! Come here. I’m glad he came up.”

In his comments on stage, Nicky Jam said, “It’s an honor to meet you, Mr. President. People that come from where I come from, they don’t meet the president. So I’m lucky. We need you. We need you back, right? We need you to be the president.” Nicky Jam was born in Massachusetts and moved to Puerto Rico with his family when he was a kid.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 10:41 am

Trump was a lock the moment Chachi backed him.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:08 pm

Max Peck wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:02 am Harris might have Taylor Swift's endorsement, but

Apparently this morning, on Truth Social he 'truthed': "I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT !!!"

omg, it's so funny.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:25 pm

Unagi wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:08 pm
Max Peck wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:02 am Harris might have Taylor Swift's endorsement, but
Apparently this morning, on Truth Social he 'truthed': "I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT !!!"

omg, it's so funny.

After all of that posting of AI generated TS love that would be sooo funny.

Edit: There is is!!!!

https://variety.com/2024/music/news/don ... 236144531/

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:50 pm

yeah, here is a picture:

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:51 pm

I wonder when we will see:

I WANT MY MOMMY!!

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:54 pm

TAYLOR SWIFT IS A GREAT BIG POOPYHEAD! UNFAIR TO ME. NASTY. I'VE ONLY EVER BEEN NICE TO HER.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:55 pm

I know I keep repeating this, but remember when Howard Dean did a weird yell and he was declared unfit for the Office of President?

Every day that TFG exists as a viable, serious candidate should be a shameful, embarrassing representation for a significant number of Americans.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 1:03 pm

Alas, each and every one of them is shameless - so, it's not gonna happen.

i.e. I hear ya!

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:16 pm

Somebody may have taken a shot at Trump again.

Former President Donald Trump is safe following gunshots "in his vicinity" on Sunday, according to his campaign.

“President Trump is safe," his campaign communications director, Steven Cheung, said, adding there were "No further details at this time".

The Secret Service confirmed in a post on X that they were investigating a "protective incident" involving Trump that took place shortly before 14:00 EST (19:00 BST).

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:23 pm

Blackhawk wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:16 pm Somebody may have taken a shot at Trump again.

Former President Donald Trump is safe following gunshots "in his vicinity" on Sunday, according to his campaign.

“President Trump is safe," his campaign communications director, Steven Cheung, said, adding there were "No further details at this time".

The Secret Service confirmed in a post on X that they were investigating a "protective incident" involving Trump that took place shortly before 14:00 EST (19:00 BST).

It has already been confirmed that this was two random Florida Mans taking shots at each other. No connection to Trump.

Of course the campaign is pushing the news to distract from Vance's disastrous admission of racist lying and Trump's attack on Taylor Swift this morning.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 5:13 pm

Yeah when I saw the Trump campaign statement I figured it's probably not an attack on Trump, as if there were any indication of that presumably the campaign would have played it up.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 5:24 pm

Unagi wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 1:03 pm Alas, each and every one of them is shameless - so, it's not gonna happen.

Oh, I don't expect them to be shamed. As an American, I'm deeply embarrassed.

waitingtoconnect · Post by **waitingtoconnect** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 5:26 pm

Is there a source for it not being an asassination attempt?

All news outlets left and right still reporting an assassination attempt.

Seriously these idiots are going to get trump reelected.

Now we are going to get the typical the democrats are fostering political violence and need to stop calling for the assassination of their political opponents unlike trump who has never done anything wrong and never said he hated anyone…

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 6:09 pm

According to the briefing (via the BBC), it may have been two Florida mans, but it was likely an assassination attempt.

The FBI, Secret Service and local Sheriff's office have just given a press conference.

If you're just joining us, or are in need of a recap, here's what they said:

At about 13:30 local time a call came in from the Secret Service saying that shots had been fired

Police units then sealed off the area immediately
Secret Service say the official in charge of staying one hole ahead of Trump on his golf course spotted a rifle sticking out of bushes and their agents opened fire
A witness then saw a man running from bushes and entering a black Nissan car which was pulled over by police and the man was detained

An AK-47 style rifle with a scope was recovered from a bush where the suspect was seen, along with two backpacks and a GoPro camera

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 6:15 pm

Nope, the FBI has said that it was an "attempted assassination attempt". Apparently a secret service agent who was a hole ahead of Trump saw a rifle barrel sticking out of a fence, confronted the suspect, who fled. Not sure the suspect's status.

edit: suspect is in custody.

This is the NYT live update.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 6:49 pm

I'd chuckle if the Secret Service forbade him from playing golf until after the election. Anything to push the instability...

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 6:53 pm

Sounds like there were two incidents.

1. Florida man fired at other Florida man outside MAL, unrelated to Trump.
2. Someone was sticking at AK through a fence, specifically targeting Trump. The Secret Service shot at him and he took off before he fired. He was apprehended.

From the AP reporting

Default · Post by **Default** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:05 pm

Holman wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 6:17 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:37 pm Apparently Loomer and Trump are a thing now? It would explain why MTG went off on her so vehemently. Court sycophants don't like competition and Trump is easily influenced by whoever he is crushing on.

This meltdown could be epic.
It's so weird. Loomer was a marginal figure hanging around the white-supremacist fringes of MAGA world for such a long time, and now she's suddenly not only in the inner circle but posing with Trump's hands on her in ways we've only seen him try to do with Ivanka.

Apparently, she looks good in a bikini. I watched a couple of videos where they brought up her untethered conspiracy theories, and also posted her cheesecake pics. I wonder that she isn't selling posters.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:14 pm

waitingtoconnect wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 5:26 pm Seriously these idiots are going to get trump reelected.

I’m missing the math on that. So ppl are going to vote for him bc ppl are taking pot shots at him?

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:18 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:14 pm
waitingtoconnect wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 5:26 pm Seriously these idiots are going to get trump reelected.
I’m missing the math on that. So ppl are going to vote for him bc ppl are taking pot shots at him?

He thrives on persecution and victimhood. America is a lawless wasteland. These incidents feed that.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:24 pm

At least the suspect is in custody instead of dead. Maybe we will get a manifesto.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 8:02 pm

Kraken wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:18 pm
Carpet_pissr wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:14 pm
waitingtoconnect wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 5:26 pm Seriously these idiots are going to get trump reelected.
I’m missing the math on that. So ppl are going to vote for him bc ppl are taking pot shots at him?

He thrives on persecution and victimhood. America is a lawless wasteland. These incidents feed that.

I dunno. We're talking about people who weren't already going to vote for him, now voting for him because...potshot. HE might thrive on the victimhood of two assassination attempts, but I don't see it swaying any actual votes.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 8:32 pm

It lets him tickle his toes in the pool of martyrdom, and lets him share 'theories' about how the left is responsible. Both get his base worked up.

I'm not sure that anyone likely to get worked up in that way wasn't already voting for him, but it could bring out a few people who were already decided, but too lazy to stand in line to vote. I doubt at this point that it's enough to move the needle, barring another Florida 2000.

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 8:33 pm

At the very least, It's probably going to give him a boost in fundraising.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 8:38 pm

I have no source, but my wife tells me she read that it was a 'Never Trump - Nikki Haley' supporter.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 8:41 pm

Grain of salt time.

Multiple sources (including the AP) are identifying him as Ryan Routh of either Hawaii or North Carolina (business owner in Honolulu, registered to vote in NC), an unaffiliated voter who supported Trump in 2016, and apparently Biden afterwards. He's also an anti-vaxxer with a criminal record involving weapons.

Plenty of room for spinning him either way.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 8:46 pm

Oy, and NC is one of the states that will be decided by a hanging chad. I don't know how this will affect that one way or the other...but it's going to get a lot of play there. If only we knew a North Carolinian who could give us the skinny.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:08 pm

He has a 2002 felony conviction for possessing a weapon of mass destruction (a fully automatic machine gun).

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:16 pm

Every time this happens, it occurs to me that it's been too long since I last watched Bob Roberts.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:26 pm

This week has been nothing but stories about Trump and Vance absolutely lying their asses off.

If you want the climax to be someone shooting nearby but then someone else maybe trying to shoot Trump but not actually shooting, I'm going to need some serious corroboration.

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:27 pm

Holman wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:26 pm This week has been nothing but stories about Trump and Vance absolutely lying their asses off.

If you want the climax to be someone shooting nearby but then someone else maybe trying to shoot Trump but not actually shooting, I'm going to need some serious corroboration.

Why don't you respect the oath of "trust me bro?"

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:51 pm

Blackhawk wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 8:41 pm Grain of salt time.

Multiple sources (including the AP) are identifying him as Ryan Routh of either Hawaii or North Carolina (business owner in Honolulu, registered to vote in NC), an unaffiliated voter who supported Trump in 2016, and apparently Biden afterwards. He's also an anti-vaxxer with a criminal record involving weapons.

Plenty of room for spinning him either way.

It seems he was also into Tulsi Gabbard for a while, in between his Trump and Biden phases.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 10:08 pm

Holman wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:26 pm This week has been nothing but stories about Trump and Vance absolutely lying their asses off.

If you want the climax to be someone shooting nearby but then someone else maybe trying to shoot Trump but not actually shooting, I'm going to need some serious corroboration.

Well, the FBI and Secret Service saying it at a press conference is pretty close to corroboration...

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 10:35 pm

Wait until they find out he was roomies with RFK.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:56 pm

This is just really bad. I can't stand Trump, but I don't want to see him or anyone else shot. And it is likely IMO that someone is going to try and retaliate from that side of things. It's just another measure of how deeply divided the country is on fundamental issues.

Kurth · Post by **Kurth** » Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:02 am

Holman wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:26 pm This week has been nothing but stories about Trump and Vance absolutely lying their asses off.

If you want the climax to be someone shooting nearby but then someone else maybe trying to shoot Trump but not actually shooting, I'm going to need some serious corroboration.

This sounds like tin foil hat type sentiment to me. Unless I’m misunderstanding you, you’re suggesting that this dude in the bushes with an AK a hole ahead of where Trump is golfing is . . . not there to shoot Trump? Or a Trump operative self-sacrificing to change the focus of the news cycle?

I do not understand.