Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?

[LordMortis]

So sorry. It's truly fucked up that someone can broadcast that kind of seditious horseshit and with that make it to the finals in choosing the direction of a state's future. And assuming NC is the state I think it is, have a more than a fighting chance of a landing the position. My cooler heads prevail there. That should be all over your local broadcasts.

[LawBeefaroni]

My state:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/09/politics ... index.html

Oh, look, another graduate of the Sovereign Citizen School of Constitutional Law!

[hepcat]

Which is it? They love the constitution or they want to set the constitution aside. You can’t have both, you half wit.

[waitingtoconnect]

It’s the flag only the flag matters

[Grifman]

I love Kari Lake, she is such a loser and the gift that keeps giving:

[YellowKing]

My cooler heads prevail there. That should be all over your local broadcasts.

It's not. I haven't heard a peep about that race.

I have heard a lot, however (weekly flyer) about how Democrats want to turn my kids transgender AND PUT MEN IN WOMEN'S SPORTS!!!!!!!!!!

I love NC but my God is it just little pockets of decency in a sea of dumbass hillbilly Bible-thumpers.

[Unagi]

I love NC but my God is it just little pockets of decency in a sea of dumbass hillbilly Bible-thumpers.

Sounds lovely

[Punisher]

The 20th Amendment says if the president-elect dies before beginning his term, then the vice president-elect assumes the spot.

The point at which they become "president-elect" is debatable. Certainly after Jan. the 6th, (the count)... But it could be said to occur immediately after the Electoral College vote.

Ok, but I'm talking about before that.
Literally 1 week before or the day of. Like all the say trump wins in a landslide then he dies that night or the next morning. Before anyone can certify anything.

[Hipolito]

This hasn't gotten enough attention. During a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on antisemitism and anti-Arab hate, U.S. Senator John Kennedy (Louisiana) accused Maya Berry, director of the Arab American Institute, of sympathizing with terrorists. Then, as if to prove her point by showing that anti-Arab hate exists in the highest echelons of U.S. government, Kennedy told her "You should put your head in a bag."

https://lailluminator.com/2024/09/18/kennedy-bag/

I'm sure he's a great Christian man, someone you can have a beer with.

[Unagi]

Wow.

That man is a total creature.

I shudder when I think that a body of people step up and vote for these people. Again and again.

[Pyperkub]

The 20th Amendment says if the president-elect dies before beginning his term, then the vice president-elect assumes the spot.

The point at which they become "president-elect" is debatable. Certainly after Jan. the 6th, (the count)... But it could be said to occur immediately after the Electoral College vote.

Historically the candidates for President respect the Country, the Voters and the Constitution and understand that a smooth transfer of power is best for the Country and will concede once it's clear.

Dunno if that will ever happen again, it won't this year.

[Kraken]

Mitt Romney braces for trump's revenge

Good read from The Atlantic, and not as long as most of their pieces.

But when I asked Romney, in the spring, what a Trump reelection would mean for him and his family, he was careful at first. “I don’t know the answer to that,” he said. If Trump tried to sic the Justice Department on him, Romney told me, “the good news is I haven’t had an affair with anybody; I don’t have any classified documents; I can’t imagine something I’ve done that would justify an investigation, let alone an indictment.”

What about his sons? I asked. Might they be targeted?

“I mean, hopefully they’ve all crossed their t’s and dotted their i’s,” Romney replied, straining to sound casual. “But it’s hard for me to imagine that President Trump would take the time to go out and see if [he] can find something on members of my family.”

“You might need to expand your imagination,” I suggested.

Romney grew irritated. “Yeah, but I’ve got 25 grandkids!” he said, throwing up his hands. “How am I going to protect 25 grandkids, two great-grandkids? I’ve got five sons, five daughters-in-law—it’s like, we’re a big group.” This was clearly a problem to which he’d given serious thought, and realized there was no solution. In the weeks after January 6, he’d spent thousands of dollars a day to protect his family from red-capped vigilantes. But how do you hide a family of 40 from a president hell-bent on revenge?

[Holman]

I saw that article, but seriously, how is multi-multi-millionaire Mitt Romney somehow the poster child for Americans who will be targeted and victimized by Trump??

[Kraken]

There are a lot more old-line Republicans just like him with targets on their backs. I was mostly interested in his cynical description of Congress, and how Biden (Harris) evolved in his mind from adversaries to potential allies.

[LawBeefaroni]

Before this gets lost in the Monday news cycle...

Trump's comments about Harris' mental fitness echoed attacks he made Saturday at another rally in Wisconsin.

"Joe Biden became mentally impaired. Kamala was born that way," he falsely claimed.

"Think about it: Only a mentally disabled person could have allowed this to happen to our country," he added. "Anybody would know this."

[YellowKing]

I think the use of the term "mentally disabled" once again shows Trump's disdain for those that are handicapped or special needs. What an absolute monster.

[Max Peck]

Once again, Trump demonstrates that every accusation is a confession.

[Jaymann]

When the personal attack (especially racist ones) hammer is the only tool in your chest, every opponent looks like a nail.

[Blackhawk]

*raises hand*

Mentally disabled here, and I do not approve of that message.

[Kraken]

Once again, Trump demonstrates that every accusation is a confession.

Yup, it’s always projection. In that vein, I’d like to see Harris propose hospitalization for trump rather than incarceration. The man clearly needs professional help.

[Jaymann]

Once again, Trump demonstrates that every accusation is a confession.

I’d like to see Harris propose hospitalization for trump rather than incarceration.

[Max Peck]

Meanwhile, in the mainstream media, pundits opine that Trump's restraint in not using the "R-word" means that this was the day that he truly became presidential.

[Blackhawk]

Yeah, Republican has become something of a slur, hasn't it?

[Grifman]

She is as dumb as a rock:



Is there a dumber member of Congress?

[LordMortis]

Doubtful.

At least she one of those people who have shifted from climate change doesn't exist, to it helps people. So now she's consistent on weather control.

[Grifman]

This is an excellent analysis:

[Grifman]

The insanity continues:

[sgoldj]

Doubtful.

At least she one of those people who have shifted from climate change doesn't exist, to it helps people. So now she's consistent on weather control.

T. Tuberville. It’s close

[Smoove_B]

I think this should go here as I do believe we've slid into a new area - members of the GOP actively spreading (and encouraging the spread of) disinformation regarding Hurricane Helene.

According to former President Donald Trump, the federal government is intentionally withholding aid to Republican disaster victims. Far-right extremist groups warn on social media that officials plan to bulldoze affected communities and seize the land from residents. A tale straight from science fiction asserts that Washington used weather control technology to steer Helene toward Republican voters in order to tilt the presidential election toward Democratic nominee Kamala Harris

I feel like it's connected to the upcoming election, but maybe not - maybe this is just their new normal. As the article mentions there are of course members of the GOP that are pushing back (namely those in states/areas affected), but not universally. I'm even seeing on my local social media quite a few of my neighbors signal boosting what is being shared at a national level by the usual suspects.

I genuinely don't know how we deal with a not-insignificant number of people that are actively working against a disaster event - either directly or indirectly. I'm not even sure whether or not they believe it matters - or they're just spreading it to cause more chaos, but JFC already.

[LordMortis]

I genuinely don't know how we deal with a not-insignificant number of people that are actively working against a disaster event - either directly or indirectly.

A disaster event? Pretty much all domestic disaster events unless it happens to them and their, and even that is questionable when it comes to things like, say the prevention of the spread of disease. Weather specific it seems to always be actively against everything that is not local.

[Smoove_B]

Technically yes, but I can also understand (still, to a degree) why people are ignoring the pandemic - because it's invisible and science can be hard.

But Helene? I don't know how anyone can look at that and not only start tossing out insane weather-machine theories (again) and/or spread disinformation about FEMA, the response in general and what happened.

It's like peeling back an onion made of distilled insanity.

[LordMortis]

And mass shootings? And collapsed infrastructure? And wildfires? And...

[Smoove_B]

I suppose that's true, yes. But somehow this Helene stuff feels worse. I don't ever recall FEMA needing to put out a dedicated webpage to deal with rumors and misinformation specific to a response.

To be clear, FEMA should have always been putting out a dedicated webpage to deal with rumors and misinformation, but it's so bad now they're finally seeing how important it is to try and counter these lunatics in real-time.

[LordMortis]

I accept this it is worse. And it looks like it will get worse than Katrina and Ida ever were. Though it will take months to determine that. We need one of those Jon Stewart x y dot plots to track them. Has any one checked in Rand Paul's response yet.

Edit no specific mentions but here are those voting against FEMA response... How many of them begged for it and got it in spades when it hit them. Like say when they tornadoes tore through Kentucky...


https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-vo ... ng-1963980

I wonder Geatz would have changed his tune if there was a prayer funding wouldn't happen?

[Isgrimnur]

If corporations are people, can government agencies sue for libel, slander, and defamation of character?

[gbasden]

I genuinely don't know how we deal with a not-insignificant number of people that are actively working against a disaster event - either directly or indirectly. I'm not even sure whether or not they believe it matters - or they're just spreading it to cause more chaos, but JFC already.

I am not surprised by anything after the politicization of COVID19. R's will lie about anything if it thinks it gives them advantage.

[Pyperkub]

If corporations are people, can government agencies sue for libel, slander, and defamation of character?

Yes. See Dominion suing Fox, Newsmax, etc.

[Alefroth]

If corporations are people, can government agencies sue for libel, slander, and defamation of character?

Yes. See Dominion suing Fox, Newsmax, etc.

Dominion isn't government though.

[Alefroth]

I think this should go here as I do believe we've slid into a new area - members of the GOP actively spreading (and encouraging the spread of) disinformation regarding Hurricane Helene.

According to former President Donald Trump, the federal government is intentionally withholding aid to Republican disaster victims. Far-right extremist groups warn on social media that officials plan to bulldoze affected communities and seize the land from residents. A tale straight from science fiction asserts that Washington used weather control technology to steer Helene toward Republican voters in order to tilt the presidential election toward Democratic nominee Kamala Harris

I feel like it's connected to the upcoming election, but maybe not - maybe this is just their new normal. As the article mentions there are of course members of the GOP that are pushing back (namely those in states/areas affected), but not universally. I'm even seeing on my local social media quite a few of my neighbors signal boosting what is being shared at a national level by the usual suspects.

I genuinely don't know how we deal with a not-insignificant number of people that are actively working against a disaster event - either directly or indirectly. I'm not even sure whether or not they believe it matters - or they're just spreading it to cause more chaos, but JFC already.

They are shitting on every first responder and relief worker that are putting their lives on the line and working their asses off. To what end? Just to make Biden and Harris look bad?

I don't even know what can be done. A study came out recently that found misinformation that was fact-checked was more likely to be believed by a certain segment of the population.

[Alefroth]

If corporations are people, can government agencies sue for libel, slander, and defamation of character?

That sounds like it would be tough to get past the 1A.