The Kamala Harris presidential candidacy

[YellowKing]

A girl I went to high school with was apparently Billie's drama teacher when she was younger (and obviously before she got famous). She had pictures on FB of her and her daughters hanging out with her post-fame. That's got to feel weird seeing one of your students hit mega-stardom.

[Unagi]

A girl I went to high school with was apparently Billie's drama teacher when she was younger (and obviously before she got famous). She had pictures on FB of her and her daughters hanging out with her post-fame. That's got to feel weird seeing one of your students hit mega-stardom.

I mean, it's gotta feel weird to know any child at all that makes it to mega-stardom.
It's like a brush with fate.


And now we look at you, YK, as a little bit nobler too.... for you went to high school with a girl who eventually became the 6th grade drama teacher for Billie Eilish, and that's no small thing.


Personally, I have to admit it feels kinda cool even knowing a guy from online that went to high school with a girl who eventually became the 6th grade drama teacher for Billie Eilish.


(just haven fun here)

[Carpet_pissr]

When I make it as a world renowned concert pianist at the ripe old age of 78, you all can say you knew me when.

And no, I will not fund your grandkids' tuition, let's just get that straight now.

[Blackhawk]

huh-huh-huh

You said "pianist."

huh-huh-huh

[Unagi]

orphaned punchline: "Do you really think I wished for a 10-inch pianist?"

[hepcat]

When I make it as a world renowned concert pianist at the ripe old age of 78, you all can say you knew me when.

Your album of different covers of Chopsticks was mesmerizing.

[YellowKing]

Personally, I have to admit it feels kinda cool even knowing a guy from online that went to high school with a girl who eventually became the 6th grade drama teacher for Billie Eilish.

Dark Helmet: "I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate."
Lone Star: "What's that make us?"
Dark Helmet: "Absolutely nothing!"

[YellowKing]

The undecided voters nonsense fueled by the media drives me absolutely insane:

Kamala Harris: "I will expand the child tax credit to $6,000, offer a $25,000 first-time homeowner credit, and ensure no tax increases on Americans making less than $400,000 a year. I will continue to call for a cease-fire in Gaza, and work with the international community to support Ukraine."

Undecided voters: "Hmmm, but I need to know more. Like, what specifically are you going to do?"

Trump: "I will fix everything, it will be beautiful. Before I'm even sworn in I'll have peace in the Middle East and the economy will be yuge. It will be a glorious thing."

Undecided voters: "I mean, this guy makes a lot of sense. If Harris doesn't stop being so vague on her proposals, we may have no choice but to vote for him."

CNN had an "Analysis" piece today basically implying that Harris was in trouble if she isn't more forthcoming with details of her policy proposals. While simultaneously ignoring (other than a short blurb in passing) Trump's absolute complete lack of detail on how he'll do ANYTHING.

[LordMortis]

That's not "undecided" voters. That's either cowardly TFG voters or the media telling voters how to feel and to replace thinking with feeling. I'm inclined to believe it's actually both. I really think media heads are trying to be government policy makers. 4th estate indeed.

[Carpet_pissr]

The undecided voters nonsense fueled by the media drives me absolutely insane:

Kamala Harris: "I will expand the child tax credit to $6,000, offer a $25,000 first-time homeowner credit, and ensure no tax increases on Americans making less than $400,000 a year. I will continue to call for a cease-fire in Gaza, and work with the international community to support Ukraine."

Undecided voters: "Hmmm, but I need to know more. Like, what specifically are you going to do?"

Trump: "I will fix everything, it will be beautiful. Before I'm even sworn in I'll have peace in the Middle East and the economy will be yuge. It will be a glorious thing."

Undecided voters: "I mean, this guy makes a lot of sense. If Harris doesn't stop being so vague on her proposals, we may have no choice but to vote for him."

CNN had an "Analysis" piece today basically implying that Harris was in trouble if she isn't more forthcoming with details of her policy proposals. While simultaneously ignoring (other than a short blurb in passing) Trump's absolute complete lack of detail on how he'll do ANYTHING.

I submit again that just because that's what so-called undecideds are SAYING when on national TV, or with a camera and/or mic in their face, that may or may not be the real reason they are "hesitant" about Harris. I really believe a lot of people do not want to say why they will or won't vote for someone, publicly, because they are either afraid of what other will think, or their reasons might come off as stupid, superficial, or even horrible.

[LordMortis]

their reasons might come off as stupid, superficial, or even horrible.

And it's a real danger. Hopefully the youth vote gets out and without all of these hidden hangups. They've been carrying us for six years running. Let's make it eight!

[Zaxxon]

That's not "undecided" voters.

*Bernie voice* Once again, I am reiterating that there are no undecided voters. */Bernie voice*

Only exceedingly low-information voters, voters who have decided but don't want to admit it, and decided voters. Information isn't going to sway the first group; vibes are. The other two are decided.

This is a vibes election.

[YellowKing]

Case in point:

My mom fit the "undecided" voter bill. She said this year she was not voting along party lines, but was going to watch the RNC and DNC, watch the debates, and then decide based on what she heard.

Her takeaway after this careful and informed evaluation?

"I hate Kamala Harris because she wants 9-month abortions."

[Pyperkub]

I really dig most of their work (I think Finnias is probably responsible for an outsized share of that duo's greatness, but could be wrong there). My kids hate it when I remind them that when I first heard her (well before she was known or famous, I came across it on an indie playlist I think), I said out loud: that kid is going to be great some day. Can't remember what the song was, but they deny that this happened (and it's happened with a lot of artists they now love! )

As YK said, she is so far above Kid Rock's popularity, they aren't even in the same hemisphere. Multi platinum, multi Grammy winning, etc etc...RABID fanbase of emo girls who cry at her concerts. She's kinda like the Bizarro Taylor Swift maybe...her songs are a bit dark and depressing, while most of Swift's are (musically at least) upbeat and a lot more...poppy.

For pop music, I think Eilish is fantastic, and maybe doesn't have as many fans as Swift, but I bet it's close (re: getting kids to vote).

The other huge factor? Get Out the Vote efforts for the millennial /gen z folks who don't always vote, don't have a habit of voting yet, and will be huge in this election...

IF they vote.

[Max Peck]

Apparently the decision by the Teamsters at the national level not to endorse either candidate doesn't reflect the stance of regional or local levels of of the union.

Local Teamsters unions in swing states rush to endorse Harris

A wave of local and regional Teamsters union branches in battleground states rushed to endorse Vice President Kamala Harris after the national Teamsters union declared that it would not endorse a presidential candidate for the first time in nearly three decades.

Teamsters regional councils — representing hundreds of thousands of members and retirees — in Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada and western Pennsylvania — endorsed Harris hours after Teamsters President Sean O’Brien revealed Wednesday that the union would withhold its endorsement, saying, “neither major candidate was able to make serious commitments to our union.”

Separately, powerful local Teamsters unions in Philadelphia; New York City; Long Beach, Calif.; and Miami — as well as the union’s National Black Caucus and a group of retirees — have endorsed Harris and urged members to vote for her.

“Both Vice President Kamala Harris and Governor Tim Walz have consistently demonstrated their dedication to championing the labor movement,” Kevin D. Moore, president of Teamsters Joint Council 43, which represents some 245,000 members and retirees in Michigan, wrote in a letter Wednesday announcing the endorsement.

He urged “all Teamsters members … to lend their support to this outstanding campaign.”

The Teamsters endorsements have drawn intense scrutiny because the union has a strong presence in battleground states — and unions have an unusual ability to mobilize their memberships.

[Jaymann]

That is great news. The national dude must be looking for some kind of payoff, but the grass roots will prevail.

[LordMortis]

I dunno how much the endorsements mean. It's better than not having them, but electorate are pretty well set in their world view bubbles. I imagine that is why the tippy top was afraid to endorse Harris. Again endorsements downstream are still nice and it means they don't fear their fellow labor. So that's all good.

[Grifman]

[Max Peck]

If Trump held a rally there, there would be ten times as many people and a tearful fire marshal would be telling him "Mr President, thank you sir for proving me wrong."

[LawBeefaroni]

I dunno how much the endorsements mean. It's better than not having them, but electorate are pretty well set in their world view bubbles. I imagine that is why the tippy top was afraid to endorse Harris. Again endorsements downstream are still nice and it means they don't fear their fellow labor. So that's all good.

Unions have a lot of boots on the ground. If the endorsements come with some voluntolds, it can be a nice get.

[Unagi]

If Trump held a rally there, there would be ten times as many people and a tearful fire marshal would be telling him "Mr President, thank you sir for proving me wrong."

He was a real big guy.

[Hyena]

If Trump held a rally there, there would be ten times as many people and a tearful fire marshal would be telling him "Mr President, thank you sir for proving me wrong."

He was a real big guy.

Tough guy, lots of muscles. Said he'd NEVER CRIED before.

(Sorry, had to caps it for his habit of randomly yelling words)

[Max Peck]

The Deep State (aka National Security Leaders For America) is all-in for Harris.

NSL4A Endorses Kamala Harris for President of the United States

To the American People,

We are former public servants who swore an oath to the Constitution. Many of us risked our lives for it. We are retired generals, admirals, senior noncommissioned officers, ambassadors, and senior civilian national security leaders. We are Republicans, Democrats, and Independents. We are loyal to the ideals of our nation—like freedom, democracy, and the rule of law—not to any one individual or party.

We do not agree on everything, but we all adhere to two fundamental principles. First, we believe America’s national security requires a serious and capable Commander-in-Chief. Second, we believe American democracy is invaluable. Each generation has a responsibility to defend it. That is why we, the undersigned, proudly endorse Kamala Harris to be the next President of the United States.

This election is a choice between serious leadership and vengeful impulsiveness. It is a choice between democracy and authoritarianism. Vice President Harris defends America’s democratic ideals, while former President Donald Trump endangers them.

We do not make such an assessment lightly. We are trained to make sober, rational decisions. That is how we know Vice President Harris would make an excellent Commander-in-Chief, while Mr. Trump has proven he is not up to the job. As leaders, we know effective leadership requires in-depth knowledge, careful deliberation, understanding of your adversaries, and empathy for those you lead. It requires listening to those with expertise and not firing them when they disagree with you.

Vice President Harris has proven she is an effective leader able to advance American national security interests. Her relentless diplomacy with allies around the globe preserved a united front in support of Ukraine’s fight against Russian aggression. She grasps the reality of American military deterrence, promising to preserve the American military’s status as the most “lethal” force in the world.

The contrast with Mr. Trump is clear: where Vice President Harris is prepared and strategic, he is impulsive and ill-informed. He has heaped praise on adversarial dictators like China’s Xi Jinping, North Korea’s Kim Jung Un, and Russia’s Vladimir Putin, as well as the terrorist leaders of Hezbollah. Conversely, he has publicly and privately excoriated the leaders of our most steadfast allies, including the United Kingdom, Israel, Australia, Canada, and Germany. He abandoned our Kurdish allies while ceding influence in the Middle East to Russia, Iran, and China.

Further, Mr. Trump denigrates our great country and does not believe in the American ideal that our leaders should reflect the will of the people. While Vice President Harris follows the democratic norms we expect of any political leader—including promising to abide by the outcome of the pending election and respecting the rule of law—Mr. Trump is the first president in American history to actively undermine the peaceful transfer of power, the bedrock of American democracy.

Mr. Trump threatens our democratic system; he has said so himself. He has called for the “termination” of parts of the Constitution. He said he wants to be a “dictator,” and his clarification that he would only be a dictator for a day is not reassuring. He has undermined faith in our elections by repeating lies, without evidence, of “millions” of fraudulent votes.

He has shown no remorse for trying to overturn the 2020 election on January 6th, promises to pardon the convicted perpetrators, and has made clear he will not respect the results of the 2024 election should he lose again.

That alone proves Mr. Trump is unfit to be Commander-in-Chief.

We believe, as President Ronald Reagan said, that “America is a shining city on a hill.” Yet in this election, one of President Reagan’s more ominous warnings is equally relevant. “Freedom,” he said, “is never more than one generation away from extinction.”

Our endorsement of Vice President Harris is an endorsement of freedom and an act of patriotism. It is an endorsement of democratic ideals, of competence, and of relentless optimism in America’s future. We hope you will join us in voting for her.

[Jaymann]

That is well thought out and relevant.

[LordMortis]

I absolutely love the endorsement. I don't know that it will change or make up any minds, even as it absolutely should. I do hope it reaches those it needs to, even if it falls on deaf ears.

[Kraken]

100% true and devoid of exaggeration.

[Max Peck]

On the other hand, Kevin Sorbo seems to believe that Trump is the best choice and he's a retired Hercules, so I guess it's a draw.

[$iljanus]

On the other hand, Kevin Sorbo seems to believe that Trump is the best choice and he's a retired Hercules, so I guess it's a draw.

I was more of a Xena fan myself.

[YellowKing]

Watching Kevin Sorbo get his ass handed to him routinely on Twitter is one of the few reasons I still hang around.

[mori]

On the other hand, Kevin Sorbo seems to believe that Trump is the best choice and he's a retired Hercules, so I guess it's a draw.

I was more of a Xena fan myself.

I had a Gabrielle thing .

[Grifman]

[LawBeefaroni]

Someone figured out that polls could move actual results so everyone started making polls geared towards moving results. They're useless now, at least on an "average" basis.

[LordMortis]

I more fear that people will take shitty polls and then when results do not agree with the chosen shitty poll method that there will be enduring OUTRAGE and a need to STOP THE STEAL with violence to follow and SC that look to be friendly to voter intimidation and voting obfuscation. In essence, no small amount of the empowered on one side wants voting to be a facade or more bluntly a farce and are willing to go to great lengths to make it happen.

[Max Peck]

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[Zarathud]

Jeri Ryan has a unique perspective on how bad the politicians are in the Republican party, and how they try to cover up their misdeeds. Her divorce file helped discredit her ex-husband who was running (and losing) against Obama for Illinois Senator.

[Blackhawk]

Jeri Ryan has a unique perspective on how bad the politicians are in the Republican party, and how they try to cover up their misdeeds. Her divorce file helped discredit her ex-husband who was running (and losing) against Obama for Illinois Senator.

Visits to sex clubs discredited him.

Oh, 2004. What innocent times.

[waitingtoconnect]

Thanks to all those striking dock workers and democrats stealing toilet paper to use for fake ballots I can’t find a roll anywhere!!

It’s typical of this biased board that no one here is talking about Harris isn’t wiping out this problem.

[Isgrimnur]

Your long, national nightmare is over.

Dockworkers strike suspended, tentative agreement includes 62% pay raise over 6 years

The tentative agreement does not resolve differences between the union and shipping companies over the use of automated machinery, sources said. That will be a key focus of negotiations between both sides from now until January 15.

[Kraken]

The main sticking point is automation. US ports are the least efficient in the developed world and should not be treated as make-work projects. I respect the value of human labor but my sympathies are with management on that point. But I am glad they punted the showdown until after the election.

[Victoria Raverna]

Thanks to all those striking dock workers and democrats stealing toilet paper to use for fake ballots I can’t find a roll anywhere!!

It’s typical of this biased board that no one here is talking about Harris isn’t wiping out this problem.

Time to invest in bidets? Cleaning with water is more hygiene than wiping with toilet paper.