Kickstarter and other crowdfunding platforms

hentzau · Post by **hentzau** » Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:26 pm

Looks like folks are starting to get their copies of Maladum out in the wild, and I'm kind of dreading it. I don't know when I will be able to play it. I'm never going to get a campaign of it going, I have a regular D&D group and if I'm going to do a minis based campaign its going to be another Pulp Alley game.

I really do love their games and their terrain, but I just don't know where this will fit into my life.

Lordnine · Post by **Lordnine** » Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:57 pm

A little bit of self promotion is anyone is interested. DinoGenics: New Arrivals just launched on Gamefound today and is fully funded!

https://gamefound.com/en/projects/ninth ... w-arrivals

Feeling pretty good today! Deep Shelf received an 8.5 and got a Seal of Excellence last week and now looking at a very successful reprint campaign!

AWS260 · Post by **AWS260** » Tue Sep 17, 2024 5:28 pm

Congratulations! I'm looking forward to the final reveal, when you replace the board art with this guy:

TheMix · Post by **TheMix** » Tue Sep 17, 2024 5:43 pm

Pirate T-Rex?

Wouldn't the fabric of the universe come apart? Take pity, man!

Lordnine · Post by **Lordnine** » Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:21 pm

AWS260 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 5:28 pm Congratulations! I'm looking forward to the final reveal, when you replace the board art with this guy:

I feel like I remember that image. Why do I remember that image?

AWS260 · Post by **AWS260** » Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:49 pm

Hmmmmm...

Lordnine · Post by **Lordnine** » Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:48 pm

OMG! I had completely forgotten that.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Wed Sep 18, 2024 10:40 am

hentzau wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:26 pm I really do love their games and their terrain, but I just don't know where this will fit into my life.

Hell, I don't even know where it's going to fit on my shelf.

hentzau · Post by **hentzau** » Wed Sep 18, 2024 10:54 am

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 10:40 am
hentzau wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:26 pm I really do love their games and their terrain, but I just don't know where this will fit into my life.
Hell, I don't even know where it's going to fit on my shelf.

That too. Since I got locked out of the Games Plus auction, I have zero room for anything new. I was hoping to get rid of about a third of my games, but wanted to use most of that freed up room for terrain storage.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Sep 18, 2024 11:56 am

That's why I was there bright and early on the drop off day Saturday. There was already a line of people at that point, so I was sure submissions were going to lock quickly. I learned my lesson the last time when they sent out an email about 4 days after submissions started that they were about to lock it up, and I had to scramble to get my stuff there in time.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:24 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 11:14 pm
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Smoove_B wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:27 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:21 pm Enemy Coast Ahead: The Dambuster Raid, 2nd Printing - Status: Not there yet Orders To Date: 395
In a few more months, it will have been out of print for 10 years. They really are ridiculous.
All you need to do is place an order for 106 extra copies, then cancel them once they're at the printer.
78 extra copies.
71 copies.

66 copies

Maybe I'll check it out from the BGGCon library in November and read the rules in a high-traffic area and try to convince people to preorder it.

hentzau · Post by **hentzau** » Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:46 pm

My Maladum delivery is scheduled for tomorrow.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:41 pm

I just got a copy of the kickstarter version using the last of my auction money from the spring auction....just in time to get the return on my fall auction.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Thu Oct 03, 2024 3:46 am

That reminds me I should probably keep an eye out for the Ascendancy boardgame.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:58 pm

Sigh...yet another delay for backers of Cthulhu: Death May Die expansions. Meanwhile, it's all been available in retail here for months at this point. This is truly my last CMON kickstarter. I'm out.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:13 pm

hepcat wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:58 pm Sigh...yet another delay for backers of Cthulhu: Death May Die expansions. Meanwhile, it's all been available in retail here for months at this point. This is truly my last CMON kickstarter. I'm out.

Yeah, this is pretty bad. The only reason to back a CMON product at this point is to get the KS exclusive stuff. If all you want is a core box, it's pretty clear that it will be available (1) cheaper and (2) faster via retail channels.

Part of me really believes they're doing this intentionally to jam the re-sellers. Basically make sure the market is flooded with retail copies so the resale value for KS backers is lower. Yes, the KS exclusives are still going to be sold for a killing, but the core boxes won't sell at all.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:19 pm

hentzau wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:46 pm My Maladum delivery is scheduled for tomorrow.

And mine is showing up today.

My 'incoming' list is getting shorter and shorter. For most of the past decade it held steady at more than a dozen items, some arriving, some new ones being added. By the end of the month (more or less), I'll be down to two items on the list. If I hadn't broken down and backed Tales from the Red Dragon Inn, my list would have been empty by January.

baelthazar · Post by **baelthazar** » Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:41 pm

hepcat wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:58 pm Sigh...yet another delay for backers of Cthulhu: Death May Die expansions. Meanwhile, it's all been available in retail here for months at this point. This is truly my last CMON kickstarter. I'm out.

Wait what? The new Cthulhu: Death May Die KS stuff is in retail? I haven't seen it.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:02 pm

It's been available for a while now. Just search Cthulhu Death May Die on miniaturemarket.com for example, and you'll find both the Fear of the Unknown expansion and Season 4.

p.s. also available on Amazon.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:30 pm

Miniature Market has it in stock? Not secret preorder? I fell for that trap with Arcs.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:40 pm

Zarathud wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:30 pm Miniature Market has it in stock? Not secret preorder? I fell for that trap with Arcs.

Yes. Right now they're showing 13 copies in stock. Probably started with 25 or 30.

baelthazar · Post by **baelthazar** » Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:40 pm

hepcat wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:02 pm It's been available for a while now. Just search Cthulhu Death May Die on miniaturemarket.com for example, and you'll find both the Fear of the Unknown expansion and Season 4.

p.s. also available on Amazon.

That is weird. I wonder if they picked up a load of these at GenCon or something?

But after they did the old switcheroo on Marvel Zombies shipping, I have really shied away from backing their stuff. Honestly, their games used to be amazing, now they just sort of regurgitate the same stuff with different veneer/themes. Play one CMON game, you have played them all.

In other news - I got a giant 32lbs box of Stalker: The Board Game stuff. No time yet to go through it.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:48 pm

I am guessing that unless CMON guaranteed some of the big vendors priority access to their goods, they were going to get dropped. So in exchange for making sure places like Miniature Market and Amazon get copies of the non-KS exclusives before KS backers (probably 30 days), they continue to have a business relationship with them. But with shipping still a nightmare, trying to coordinate that kind of tight window is probably impossible so they make sure the vendors are taken care of and then the backers get it when it's convenient.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:02 pm

Maladum is sitting in the bedroom, still packed. I'm hesitating, as I need to figure out where the @#(%$ to put the thing on my long-since-full shelving.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:03 pm

I don't regret backing it because their Cthulhu game is pretty fun. But I'm over the extra KS doodads and if there's another big box in the series I think I'll just buy it from a retail source or perhaps even go without.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:54 pm

Love Death May Die, hate CMON's shipping crap.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:20 pm

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:19 pm My 'incoming' list is getting shorter and shorter.

Lords of Vegas gets delivered Monday after that I have one game left on the list and I regret backing that already. A co-op legacy game (Flashpoint) I may never actually get to play based on how things have been going.

Fardaza · Post by **Fardaza** » Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:29 am

baelthazar wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:41 pm
hepcat wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:58 pm Sigh...yet another delay for backers of Cthulhu: Death May Die expansions. Meanwhile, it's all been available in retail here for months at this point. This is truly my last CMON kickstarter. I'm out.
Wait what? The new Cthulhu: Death May Die KS stuff is in retail? I haven't seen it.

I saw both core and Season 4 at my FLGS last week.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:46 pm

Just received my Maladam all in and started priming them. Must take advantage of the warmer weather while it lasts. Hoping to finish priming the core box tomorrow and that'll get me through winter...

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:50 am

Fardaza wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:29 am
baelthazar wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:41 pm
hepcat wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:58 pm Sigh...yet another delay for backers of Cthulhu: Death May Die expansions. Meanwhile, it's all been available in retail here for months at this point. This is truly my last CMON kickstarter. I'm out.
Wait what? The new Cthulhu: Death May Die KS stuff is in retail? I haven't seen it.
I saw both core and Season 4 at my FLGS last week.

I didn't back season 4 but I couldn't resist buying it from Amazon because I had some Amazon credits.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sun Oct 06, 2024 12:28 pm

Yeah, I completely missed that season 4 was a separate add on and thought I was getting it all with the Fear of the Unknown pledge. I'll have to pick up season 4 too.

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:46 pm Just received my Maladam all in and started priming them. Must take advantage of the warmer weather while it lasts. Hoping to finish priming the core box tomorrow and that'll get me through winter...

I actually painted most of my Core Space stuff, now I got all the Maladum stuff to paint since I picked up the KS version at my FLGS. I am not looking forward to assembling all that terrain though. I suck at that. Odds are I'll end up with even walls that don't look right...and those don't even require assembly.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Sun Oct 06, 2024 12:36 pm

It's a crumbling, ancient dungeon so leaning mismatched walls totally fit the vibe. I need to find good examples - I'm hoping many start to pop up - but I can already tell the minis are going to be a joy to paint, especially the heroes. They were definitely sculpted with care and thinking about paint.

As excited as I am to get this to the table, I do wish I could dedicate a giant table to just keep it all set up. With it being October, I'm also feeling motivated to play thematic spooky games like Camp Grizzly and Deth Wizards.

I can't help but shake the feeling the Cthulhu KS isn't going to be delivered to NA until after the New Year. Their last message:

The USA hub suffered a small delay and we're still in the process of booking the containers. We'll update you as soon as we have news.

Does not leave me confident this is showing up before January. If they didn't even book a container yet, that's still 6+ weeks from when they do that it arrives - which is peak trouble time.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:40 pm

Sigh...an hour later, my fingers are covered in superglue and I've managed to assemble 6 chests/crates. One of the sheets has badly cut notches that I couldn't even salvage with an exacto knife, so I had to force the damn things to fit eventually. It's not horrible looking, but it sure was friggin' annoying. Quality assurance seems to have lagged a bit at Battle Systems since Core Space.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Sun Oct 06, 2024 7:55 pm

I use wood glue or just white PVA glue (Elmer's) on the Core Space crates or anything that requires glue. Unlike CA, you can drink Elmer's if you get thirsty.

Do you use a sharpie marker to color the edges as well? Do not apply glue to the marker before using it. Trust me.

I'm hoping the QA isn't bad. I did see something (I think) about making sure you push the bits out from the correct side, though now I can't remember which side that was.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sun Oct 06, 2024 7:59 pm

Yeah, CA (superglue) doesn't give a great deal of time to get pieces positioned. I use wood glue - it's the same as white glue, just with a higher PVA ratio.

I did use the CA glue that comes with a brush on Core Space pieces that have removable 'hooks', like signs, as it made them more rigid and almost plastic-like. I didn't use it for assembly - I brushed it on the edges that would be repeatedly attached/removed, then let them dry as a form of reinforcement. I'm not sure if Maladam has any pieces like that or not, as I don't want to start unpacking that huge stack until I've figured out a long-term storage solution.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:03 pm

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2024 7:59 pm I did use the CA glue that comes with a brush on Core Space pieces that have removable 'hooks', like signs, as it made them more rigid and almost plastic-like. I didn't use it for assembly - I brushed it on the edges that would be repeatedly attached/removed, then let them dry as a form of reinforcement.

That's a good idea. I'm sure there are hanger pieces, yes - torches, traps, bells, switches (I think).

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:15 pm

You still want to edge color them first, of course - and for the same reason (I assume we both learned our lesson the hard way on that.)

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:30 pm

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2024 7:55 pm
I'm hoping the QA isn't bad. I did see something (I think) about making sure you push the bits out from the correct side, though now I can't remember which side that was.

I’m probably just grumpy because I have a mouse super glued to my right hand currently.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:59 pm

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2024 7:55 pm I did see something (I think) about making sure you push the bits out from the correct side, though now I can't remember which side that was.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:11 am

That's great!