LGBT issues thread (was Supreme Court to hear same-sex marriage cases)

[Alefroth]

I wouldn't have expected this to be a consequence of the Chevron ruling-

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/03/politics ... index.html

The Biden administration cannot enforce new anti-discrimination rules in health care for transgender Americans, a federal judge in Mississippi ruled Wednesday, citing a recent landmark Supreme Court ruling that weakened the power of federal agencies.

The preliminary injunction from US District Judge Louis Guirola comes just two days before the new protections were set to take effect. The George W. Bush appointee said his block on the federal protections will apply nationwide.

I'm sure that was teed up and ready to go, waiting on Chevron. Expected more unexpected rulings like this.

Such as these- https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... eme-court/

[GreenGoo]

Iran is a helluva role model.

[Smoove_B]

Not sure if we should pin this thread or start a dedicated one on bathrooms, but if you were betting on OHIO, collect your prize:

Republicans in the Ohio Senate have passed a bill to make changes to the state’s College Credit Plus program. The bill was approved with an added requirement that trans students use bathrooms that match the gender on their birth certificates.

Senate Bill 104 is headed to Gov. Mike DeWine after this vote, which happened in the first legislative session following the election. DeWine suggested earlier this year that he’s likely to sign it.

The bill makes operational changes in the College Credit Plus program, which allows students in grades 7-12 to receive high school and college credit. When SB 104 passed the House in a late night session in June, Republicans added a provision that requires primary and secondary education – both public and private schools – to designate bathrooms and facilities for the exclusive use of one gender.

“It revolves around the safety, security, and I think common sense,” said Sen. Jerry Cirino (R-Kirtland), one of the two sponsors of the bill in the Senate’s floor debate. “It protects our children and grandchildren in private spaces where they are most vulnerable. It is us using our legislative authority to ensure schools are, in fact, safe environments. After all, bathrooms, showers, changing rooms should all be safe places for our students.”

Note:

Eleven states – Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Tennessee and Utah – have some form of a bathroom ban. All of those states, along with Ohio, voted Republican in last week’s election.

It's going to get worse.

[Unagi]

[Alefroth]

Hopefully blue state governments and companies will stop doing business in those states.

[Blackhawk]

[GreenGoo]

After all, bathrooms, showers, changing rooms should all be safe places for our students.”

But not our trans students, of course. Fuck those students. Hard.

Also, I recognize the character and thus the show, but not the scene.

Ah. The list. Got it.

[Blackhawk]

But not our trans students, of course. Fuck those students. Hard.

Nonsense. There won't be any trans students anymore once we get rid of vaccines, fluoride, 'toxins' in food, serve raw milk in little cartons in the cafeteria, and make prayer mandatory.

[Smoove_B]

Oh, hey look at that:

Rep. Nancy Mace, Republican of South Carolina, said on Monday that she will be introducing a measure to ban transgender women from using biological women’s restrooms at the U.S. Capitol.

Her announcement comes as Rep.-elect Sarah McBride prepares to take office as the first transgender person elected to Congress.

In her own words:

"The sanctity of protecting women and standing up against the Left’s systematic erasure of biological women starts here in the nation’s Capitol,” Mace wrote in a statement.

“We are standing up for women, protecting their spaces, and restoring a bit of sanity to Capitol Hill," the statement continued.

Referencing the controversial acronym for a trans-exclusionary radical feminist, Mace also wrote, "The Left screams TERF politics, we call it putting women first.”

[Daehawk]

I call it being assholes.

[LawBeefaroni]

They feel safe on the floor with Matt Gaetz but they won't in a bathroom with Sarah McBride? Do not like their risk analysis.

[Max Peck]

I don't think that Mace understands that she'd have to be a feminist before anyone would call her a TERF. It's built right into the label.

[Max Peck]

They feel safe on the floor with Matt Gaetz but they won't in a bathroom with Sarah McBride? Do not like their risk analysis.

To be fair, if you're young enough for Gaetz then you're not old enough to run for office.

[Smoove_B]

As expected:

House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) said Wednesday he is banning transgender individuals from accessing bathrooms on the House side of the Capitol complex that correspond to their gender identity.

Why it matters: The move comes in response to an effort by GOP firebrands to restrict Rep.-elect Sarah McBride (D-Del.), who is set to be the first transgender member of Congress, from using women's restrooms.

What he's saying: "All single-sex facilities in the Capitol and House Office Buildings (like restrooms, changing rooms, and locker rooms) are reserved only for individuals of that biological sex," Johnson said in a statement.

Johnson told reporters at the Capitol on Wednesday: "Like all policies, it's enforceable. We have single-sex facilities for a reason. Women deserve women's only spaces."

"We're not anti-anyone. We're pro-woman. I think it's an important policy for us to continue. It's always been, I guess, an unwritten policy, but now it's in writing," he added.

The legislation that Nancy Mace has floated would extend this to all federal property. So as a reminder, must make sure no one is ever forced to wear masks on federal property, but bathroom use? We are now the bathroom police.

I know for some this isn't even on their radar, but unless the Democrats push back on this aggressively, it's going to get worse. I know there's so much stuff happening right now and (currently) this is about ~1% of the population and (apparently) a single member in Congress but the implications with doing nothing are rather serious.

[LawBeefaroni]

I assume unisex facilities are off the table?

[Zarathud]

Congress has dealt with bathroom issues before. When women were first elected. Men were asshats back then too.

[Smoove_B]

I assume unisex facilities are off the table?

I had no idea this was a thing in 1976:

By 1976, 34 states had ratified the Equal Rights Amendment. Just four more states needed to approve the amendment that would guarantee simply that “Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.”

But opponents of the proposed Constitutional amendment started warning of dire consequences, including women being drafted into the military and everyone being forced to use unisex public restrooms.

The ERA never became part of the Constitution.

DIRE CONSEQUENCES!!! Everything old is new again.

We have a group of people that don't believe in bathroom access but we're supposed to have deep, meaningful discussions with them about improving American society and reducing our negative impact locally and globally as a species? Our society is being dragged down by cultural and social troglodytes and we're collectively worse off for it.

EDIT: More here:

Once gender equality had been guaranteed under the Constitution, Schlafly cautioned, no laws could prevent men from entering women’s bathrooms. Public restrooms could become a dangerous trap.

ERA advocates called her bathroom talk ridiculous. “There's been a lot of distortions about the Equal Rights Amendment,” said President Jimmy Carter. “It doesn't say anything about bathrooms.” But Schlafly’s attack was shrewd, pulling together the different strands of bathroom panics that had excited Americans for decades. Slyly drawing on the loaded language of the prior decade, Schlafly and her allies warned that ERA would “integrate public toilets.” Since most Southern states had yet to vote on the ERA, language that suggested it would follow the recent racial integration of public restrooms with sex integration ensured a spirited Southern opposition to the amendment.

Tapping into the oldest concerns about women’s public restrooms, a pamphlet from Schlafly’s powerful STOP ERA organization claimed that women would lose their “right to privacy based on sex” in “public restrooms and other public facilities.” The ERA, said former Governor Ronald Reagan, could “degrade and defeminize women by forcing them to mingle with men in close, intimate quarters.” As it always had, the notion of privacy carried deeper meanings of safety and protection, which Schlafly now warned would be eliminated. The ERA, its opponents charged, would grant men, including rapists and pedophiles, equal access to women’s restrooms.

I guess things would just be so much easier without gender equality. Good thing there isn't a party that has seemingly made that a plank in their platform.

[Alefroth]

I went to Canada during election week and used a big unisex bathroom on Granville Island. The sink area was common and there were about 20 private stalls. It was so nice and really felt like grown-ups were in charge.

[Max Peck]

I went to Canada ... It was so nice and really felt like grown-ups were in charge.

Until the next federal election, anyway. As time goes by it feels like the Conservatives are becoming more and more like the GOP.

[Alefroth]

I went to Canada ... It was so nice and really felt like grown-ups were in charge.

Until the next federal election, anyway. As time goes by it feels like the Conservatives are becoming more and more like the GOP.

How soon can that happen? I know it has to happen by 10.25.25, but can it be much sooner?

[Max Peck]

I went to Canada ... It was so nice and really felt like grown-ups were in charge.

Until the next federal election, anyway. As time goes by it feels like the Conservatives are becoming more and more like the GOP.

How soon can that happen? I know it has to happen by 10.25.25, but can it be much sooner?

It's a minority government, so it can happen any time that someone is able to engineer a successful vote of no confidence in parliament, or any time the PM decides to call an early election (if he's so deep into denial that he thinks he could win).

[GreenGoo]

I went to Canada ... It was so nice and really felt like grown-ups were in charge.

Until the next federal election, anyway. As time goes by it feels like the Conservatives are becoming more and more like the GOP.

I know, right? It's like they have forgotten what conservative means so they are just copying whoever is nearby. It's maddening.