[Netflix] Arcane

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:16 pm

The discussion in the Netflix megathread is ridiculously fragmented, which is why most megathreads should die. Anyway...

After I watched the third episode last night, I was thinking about giving it up. The art, animation, music and everything were all great, but it didn't really gel into anything I cared about. After three episodes I still wasn't sure what it was about and wasn't sure I was interested. I mean yeah, the options narrowed down quite a bit in that episode, but still not clear who or what the story is about.

This morning, as I am between games, I decided to give the 4th episode a try. I *still* don't know who or what the story is about, but now I WANT to know more. Now that I noticed someone commented on the eps 4-6 drop I realize I only have two more to watch and I'm already sad.

I think, for me, Castlevania had a similar problem where there wasn't really a main focus. It had four different main characters with their own storylines that hardly ever intersected. At least with Castlevania I had an idea who to root for even if that was subverted once or twice. I guess the lack of a clear hero (or even anti hero) is an evolution that I need to get used to.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:34 pm

Narcos: Mexico season 3 was really good. Anyone else finish that one?

Spoiler:

But that aside, Arcane was a surprise for me. I fully expected to hate it as it's a video game driven endeavor. But it's a smartly written, emotionally deep and beautifully animated piece of art.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:42 pm

Reasons I personally think it's brilliant, and several notches above the writing and character development of most of the other stuff I watch:
1. Complexity of heroes and villains - Just Like Real Life!(TM)
Lines are quite blurry, and it's done in an organic, believable way (unlike some shows that try to do the same, but much more clumsily)
2. Creators not afraid to pull a "Ned Stark"...or several!
I think a lot of people get pissed off and/or shocked by this because they have possibly been wussified (as content consumers) by a Disneyfied media diet. The good guys should always win, the lines shouldn't be THAT blurry between good and evil, and under no circumstances should a seemingly main character or highly developed one get killed off unceremoniously.
3. The art direction, animation quality...everything aesthetic about this is superb IMO.
4. I think they do a brilliant job of creating meaningful relationships and bonds, making me care about characters in a VERY short amount of screen/run time. I doubt that is easy to do, but they have done it well.

That's just off the top of my head. I would put the writing, (voice) acting and character development up against almost anything on Netflix right now, animated or not.

I always use my wife as a yardstick, because she has a negative bias towards anything animated. For her to be loving it says a lot. I suspect her feelings stem from wayyyyy too many animated shows and films after raising three kids.

Hamlet3145 · Post by **Hamlet3145** » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:54 pm

I loved it. I mean they somehow got Sting for the final song.

Riot Games threw a ton of money at this AND had a very talented group of artists, writers and voice actors. And it shows.

Looking forward to season 2.

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:06 pm

I found it hard to get over the steampunk setting. There was just something there that didn't click with me. That's weird since everything about it was top notch.

One quibble:

Spoiler:

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:08 pm

coopasonic wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:16 pm The discussion in the Netflix megathread is ridiculously fragmented, which is why most megathreads should die. Anyway...

I thought about making an Arcane thread more than twice, but laziness won out each time. Thanks for being un-lazy.

I was hooked start to finish, and can't wait for season two. Agree with all of Carpet-pissr's comments.

Of the various summaries I posted in the Netflix thread, I think this one might be the most useful for folks on the fence: (spoiler: get off the fence and watch Arcane)

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:23 pm

coopasonic wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:16 pm The discussion in the Netflix megathread is ridiculously fragmented, which is why most megathreads should die.

I fully support this.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:59 pm

Just watched the last episode.

Wow.

Jiffy · Post by **Jiffy** » Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:34 am

coopasonic wrote:Just watched the last episode.

Wow.

I very rarely re-watch shows or movies.

Within a week of finishing S1, I started back on episode 1....and have just finished my second watch through.

Most everything just resonated so well as an 'experience' to me, from the voice acting to the overarching story, the lore and bits of quiet time in between the action, and possibly the biggest draw, the stunning animation.

I still can't believe it was based on LoL, which I have not played or even looked into. I felt it avoided so many video game movie/show problems by being accessible to all, and didn't purely feel like fan service. There was only one point that I actually felt like it *was* quite fan-servicey (spoiler below), and it stood out to me because of that feeling - everything else felt fluid and seamless in the story it was telling.

Spoiler:

Can't wait for S2. Show of the year for me.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:47 pm

Arcane got quite a bit of play at the Game Awards last week.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:25 pm

Gotta love how the 'Arcane is pretty great, right?' takes keep coming up months after release.

Wen S2?

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:23 pm

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:22 am

Awesome. Did they also write the show? The writing is just...amazing IMO.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:25 am

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:22 am Awesome. Did they also write the show? The writing is just...amazing IMO.

I believe it was collaborative but with two Riot dudes leading the writing team.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:50 am

I would really have loved to see that studio take a stab at a Borderlands show. I'd have way more confidence in that than in the Jack Black Claptrap we're getting.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:35 pm

No, it's not S2. Sorry to bump the thread and get hopes up. But I had to share this vid, which is actually older than the last one I shared.

I miss Arcane. Give me S2, plz.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:05 pm

Still not S2; sorry.

Since last we spoke, Arcane won an Emmy and a Game Award. But that's not why I'm here...

Months late, I finished up the Arcane: Bridging the Rift making-of series on YouTube. If you enjoyed the show, I recommend this series. Really puts in perspective how far the production came, from a throwaway 'sure, take a $2k budget and work something up' to what may be the best video game adaptation ever made.

I particularly enjoyed the final two episodes, covering the music and sound production. Those ended up being a hugely important part of why the show clicked (see what I did there? Ehh??) for me.

Bridging the Rift Trailer:

Part 1 - I Only Dream in Risky

Part 2 - Persistence (Or When Your Best Still Sucks)

Part 3 - Killstreaks Meet Keyframes

Part 4 - Musical Misfits

Part 5 - We Gave It Our Best Shot

Season 2 plz.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:22 pm

Zaxxon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:05 pm Still not S2; sorry.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Damn you, sir!! BOOOOOOO!!!! (throws rotten fruit)

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:37 pm

Jiffy · Post by **Jiffy** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:42 pm

Zaxxon wrote:

I'm so glad it's happening, even if it's still a year away.

Still one of the best series I've seen in years. I'm disappointed that I couldn't convince wife to watch past episode 1 (was too violent for her liking), just because it was *so* good.

hitbyambulance · Post by **hitbyambulance** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:00 pm

had a friend that tried getting me into this, but i didn't see what was so great about it and didn't make it past the first episode

disarm · Post by **disarm** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:05 pm

hitbyambulance wrote:had a friend that tried getting me into this, but i didn't see what was so great about it and didn't make it past the first episode

That's the problem...give it another shot past the first episode and it will make more sense. It's also worth knowing that the show was originally released in three acts. They released three episodes each week, and there are major story advancements between each set of episodes.

Trust me, it's definitely worth more time. Fantastic show

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:58 pm

I don’t remember the first episode being bad or uninteresting.

disarm · Post by **disarm** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:14 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote:I don’t remember the first episode being bad or uninteresting.

Neither do I to be honest, but I think the show really comes into its own during the second act.

EvilHomer3k · Post by **EvilHomer3k** » Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:13 pm

My wife, who doesn't watch animated stuff (has never even sat through a full watch of Toy Story despite having three kids totally into it at different times) loved it. I don't watch anime and I loved it too.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:49 pm

I don't know that I'd classify it as anime, although its aesthetic is one of many that looks like it borrowed from anime.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:15 pm

November.

TheMix · Post by **TheMix** » Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:14 pm

I'm delighted there is going to be another season.

That said... am I the only one that is getting really tired of miraculous recoveries for villains that have been killed? Maybe it's being fresh off Rebel Moon (I know, I shouldn't have watched it; but after all the negative comments I just had to see it for myself!

)... but it is starting to feel like a far-too-common trope.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:50 pm

Season 2 of Arcane premieres November

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:56 pm

Also, it's the final season. But I saw a video by Christian Linke (which I can't find now) explaining that as planned they are working on adjacent show(s)/movie(s). It's just the end for Vi/Jinx.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:15 pm

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:50 pm
Season 2 of Arcane premieres November

Woo hooo!!!

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:15 am

Of course, the correct way to prepare for season 2 (2 weeks!) is to re-watch season 1. But in case you prefer a quicker option...

Cannot wait. I really hope they don't fuck this up.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Sat Nov 09, 2024 1:52 pm

Season 2 dropped last night. The kids and I rewatched the first 3 eps of S1 this morning but haven’t dipped into S2 yet.

Initial reviews I’ve seen are all positive. Can’t wait. Thankfully we got around 19” of snow this week, so it’s a perfect day to sit inside and binge.

disarm · Post by **disarm** » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:07 pm

First episode of Season 2 is awesome...can't wait to see where they take the story this time!

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:13 pm

Blisters and Bedrock, man.

I’m not sure this season is on the level of S1 yet, but it’s certainly not disappointed me.

Jiffy · Post by **Jiffy** » Tue Nov 26, 2024 6:21 am

Still processing the end. Great series, but I don't know if S2 quite resonated as strongly with me as S1. Still, very good.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:22 am

We’ve got one episode to go.

I have to say that when the kids’ grandparents decide to come sit in during episode 17, that does not lead to a comfortable experience.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:32 pm

I just watched the first episode tonight. I finally finished Scavengers Reign and wanted to watch something else fairly short. I think Arcane will prove to be a good decision.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:33 pm

Kraken wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:32 pm I just watched the first episode tonight. I finally finished Scavengers Reign and wanted to watch something else fairly short. I think Arcane will prove to be a good decision.

Come back after ep 3. You’ll know then.

disarm · Post by **disarm** » Wed Nov 27, 2024 12:22 am

Finished it tonight... satisfying conclusion, but I can't say that season two was as good as the first season. Great character moments are the show's biggest strength, and while S2 continued to have those amazing moments, the main plotline was a little out there and didn't grab me quite as much as the first season. I feel like I need to go back and watch the last few episodes again to better grasp everything that was happening (mostly with a certain character's Hextech evolution and Mel coming into her own). Overall really great show though, and It's disappointing that we won't be getting more.