Capitol Riot Investigation Thread

[GreenGoo]

He claims America has no claim on him, but he thinks he has some claim on America.

That's a lot clearer.

[Punisher]

My take is that they should be allowed to be sovereign.
Then immediately contact ICE because they are in the country illegally.

[Blackhawk]

Unless they own land and choose to secede. At that point, we should simply build a wall along the border. They can apply for a temporary visa if they need to go to the store or something.

[Pyperkub]

In other news, the **real** Sovereign Citizens are fed up with GOP bullcrap

In the tribal council meeting on Tuesday, LeBeau referred to Noem as an “uninvited guest,” but said they would “recognize her, but we wouldn’t give her the platform or give her the time to get going to her agenda” during the meeting.

While the tribe briefly considered other options, they motioned to follow the Oglala Sioux Tribe and ban Noem.

“She’s made some false allegations, some lies. She said that councils were in with the Mexican cartels. She also made statements about our children and our parents, our schools, pretty negative, derogatory statements,” said LeBeau.

[Punisher]

Unless they own land and choose to secede. At that point, we should simply build a wall along the border. They can apply for a temporary visa if they need to go to the store or something.

They'd also have to apply for a work permit and lose access to social security and any other government funding.

[Blackhawk]

Unless they own land and choose to secede. At that point, we should simply build a wall along the border. They can apply for a temporary visa if they need to go to the store or something.

They'd also have to apply for a work permit and lose access to social security and any other government funding.

Nonsense. They'd have all of the government funding!

(They'd be the government, after all.)

[Punisher]

Unless they own land and choose to secede. At that point, we should simply build a wall along the border. They can apply for a temporary visa if they need to go to the store or something.

They'd also have to apply for a work permit and lose access to social security and any other government funding.

Nonsense. They'd have all of the government funding!

(They'd be the government, after all.)

They'd be their own government though. They could have all the money they generate.

[Blackhawk]

Unless they own land and choose to secede. At that point, we should simply build a wall along the border. They can apply for a temporary visa if they need to go to the store or something.

They'd also have to apply for a work permit and lose access to social security and any other government funding.

Nonsense. They'd have all of the government funding!

(They'd be the government, after all.)

They'd be their own government though. They could have all the money they generate.

Exactly my point. They're sovereign, after all.

[Smoove_B]

Locally, we have a guy in NJ that is proud to brag he was there on 1/6, but of course he didn't do anything illegal. Now he wants our votes:

He was also among the thousands of Trump supporters who marched to the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021 in defiance of President Joe Biden‘s victory over Trump, though he insists he wasn’t one of those who breached the building in a violent attack and he hasn’t been charged with a crime.

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Belnome, now running in the GOP primary with the support of party leaders in a bid to unseat Democratic U.S. Rep. Mikie Sherrill in the state’s 11th congressional district, says he “peacefully marched” in protest to the Capitol after seeing Trump speak. He also admits to deleting his social media in the wake of the riot but says his actions that day were “not violent.”

“I was there,” he told NJ Advance Media during a recent phone interview. “I did not enter the Capitol building.”

“I can’t tell you how long I was there or what time I went back to my hotel,” Belnome added. “At the time, I didn’t know anyone entered the building.”

This timeline is unreal.

[hepcat]

“I helped load the gun for Oswald, but I didn’t pull the trigger!” is a wonderful stance.

[Zarathud]

The right follow-up questions -- What made you different from those supporters who entered the Capital Building? Why did you stop? Do you denounce those who did enter and the damage they caused to American democracy?

He's trying to say to the MAGA insurrectionists that he's one of them, but can't admit it. Either draw a wedge between them, or confirm on the record he's a deplorable.

[waitingtoconnect]

“I helped load the gun for Oswald, but I didn’t pull the trigger!” is a wonderful stance.

Yes but Oswald was a communist Democrat dedicated to overthrowing US democracy. The Jan 6 patriots were heroes dedicated to improving Us democracy and making it more managed. (Sarcasm!!)

[Punisher]

“I helped load the gun for Oswald, but I didn’t pull the trigger!” is a wonderful stance.

Yes but Oswald was a communist Democrat dedicated to overthrowing US democracy. The Jan 6 patriots were heroes dedicated to improving Us democracy and making it more managed. (Sarcasm!!)

Perhaps they were just beta testers for Helldivers? For Democracy!

[Grifman]

I remember this guy:



Nice to see him get his due.

[Alefroth]

I'd argue he didn't get his due. He was admittedly just feet away from Babbit, so he was definitely not just parading around the Capital grounds.

[Grifman]

Another one bites the dust:

https://www.wral.com/amp/21395822/

[hepcat]

"Your honor, I was wearing a hockey mask while at the capital that day because it's been my experience throughout the entirety of my life that impromptu hockey games can break out anywhere, and I was tired of being unprepared."

[Punisher]

Hey. They even happen on the roof of minimarkets so this is plausible

[Smoove_B]

Former Trump adviser Peter Navarro convicted of contempt of Congress

OOOoooooh! I bet he's TERRIFIED! All he has to do is look at what happened to Steve Bannon, who's been rotting in j....roaming around free, fomenting rebellion and eating sandwiches while dressed like an old timey hobo.

Update on Bannon - who appealed jail time in 2022 - he lost:

A federal appeals court on Friday upheld the criminal conviction of Steve Bannon, a longtime adviser to Donald Trump, for defying a subpoena from the Jan. 6 House select committee, a ruling that could send the populist conservative strategist to prison.

Bannon was sentenced to four months in jail in 2022 by U.S. District Judge Carl Nichols after a jury convicted him of two counts of contempt of Congress. But Nichols, a Trump appointee, agreed to postpone the jail term while Bannon appealed the decision, agreeing that the complex mix of laws that govern executive privilege and testimonial immunity for White House aides could be overturned by higher courts.

It should not take 2 goddamn years for this! Note:

Friday’s decision comes after federal courts — including the Supreme Court — rejected a similar bid by former Trump White House aide Peter Navarro to stave off his own four-month sentence for defying the Jan. 6 committee. Navarro is currently serving his own four-month sentence in Miami.

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Both Bannon and Navarro refused to appear for depositions or provide documents to the Jan. 6 committee, even though the panel intended to inquire about a wide range of subjects that extended far beyond topics that might be covered by the confidentiality of their discussions with Trump while he was president. Though both claimed they were protected by immunity and executive privilege, the judges in their cases each rejected that argument, citing longstanding legal precedents that forbid “willful” defiance of a congressional subpoena no matter the excuse.

However:

Bannon’s lawyer, David Schoen, said the longtime Trump adviser intends to ask for a review by the full 11-member bench of the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, known as an “en banc” review. If the court declines to take it up, Bannon may then petition the Supreme Court.

[Smoove_B]

New update on Bannon - ordered to report to prison on 7/1/24.

A federal judge on Thursday ordered former Trump adviser Steve Bannon to report to prison on July 1 to begin a four-month prison sentence for defying subpoenas from the Jan. 6 Committee after a higher court rejected his appeal.

Bannon was found guilty on two counts of contempt of Congress in July 2022 for defying the committee’s subpoenas, but his sentence had been put on hold while he appealed the case. U.S. District Judge Carl said Thursday he did not believe that the “original basis” for his stay of the imposition of Bannon's sentence existed any longer after an appeals court upheld Bannon's conviction. Bannon could still appeal Nichol’s ruling that he must report to prison.

Because I guess "immediately" is too harsh.

[hepcat]

Here's hoping he shares a cell with King Gorilla.

I think the worst thing for Bannon is that in prison they will probably only let him wear one shirt at a time.

[Grifman]

This is hilarious:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 00595.html

Did he really think using a pen name would stump federal investigators?

[Jaymann]

[Grifman]

FAFO:

https://apnews.com/article/david-dempse ... 2fa3ec4ff5

Not surprised, this guy has a history of political violence.

[LordMortis]

Defense attorney Amy Collins, who sought a sentence of 6 years and six months, described the government’s sentencing recommendation as “ridiculous.”

“It makes him a statistic,” she said. “It doesn’t consider the person he is, how much he has grown.”

[Unagi]

Yeah, fuck that guy.

[Grifman]

Another one bites the dust:

https://thehill.com/homenews/4890296-oh ... jan-6/amp/

More details of his crimes here:

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/nati ... 43d7f7b44f

[LordMortis]

In the immortal words of Unagi

Yeah, fuck that guy.

[Grifman]

[hepcat]

I was going to ask why they used such a hilarious photo of Rudy, but then I realized that they probably only have hilarious photos of Rudy.

[Isgrimnur]

[Isgrimnur]

Former doctor who participated in Jan. 6 attack killed in shooting at West Seattle home

A Seattle doctor whose medical license was suspended after she participated in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol was shot and killed after pointing a gun at two people delivering paperwork at her West Seattle home on Tuesday.

A 40-year-old man whom police have not identified shot Tamara Towers Parry, 57, multiple times in the torso outside her Southwest Hudson Street home around 1 p.m., according to the Seattle Police Department and the King County Medical Examiner’s Office.

Documents show the property was in foreclosure and was sold in an auction on Sept. 30.

The homeowner exited her home and presented a shotgun, according to police.
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In 2022, the Washington State Medical Commission revoked her medical license after she failed to comply with an order to undergo a mental health evaluation.

[YellowKing]

Sometimes I stop and think about how many people Trump has indirectly hurt or killed through his actions (or inactions). Between Jan. 6, Covid, the overturning of Roe v Wade - it's mind-boggling how much blood is on his hands and half the country still wants more.

[Isgrimnur]

“He’s not hurting the people he needs to be”: a Trump voter says the quiet part out loud - Jan 8, 2019

[Carpet_pissr]

Sometimes I stop and think about how many people Trump has indirectly hurt or killed through his actions (or inactions). Between Jan. 6, Covid, the overturning of Roe v Wade - it's mind-boggling how much blood is on his hands and half the country still wants more.

I think Fox News, Breitbart, and a whole slew of characters that have been ramping things up for years well before Donald was on the scene deserve more of the blame. He was just the tipping point of their built up manufactured rage. IMO.

[Grifman]

He wasn’t happy:

[Unagi]

Can't he just plead the second?

[hepcat]

...or say he drank a fifth?

[Alefroth]

What's he worried about? He'll be out soon.