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Pennsylvania steelworkers are feeling a "gut punch" after President-elect Donald Trump said he would block the $14.9 billion sale of U.S. Steel to a Japanese company.
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WASHINGTON, Nov 25 (Reuters) - U.S. farm industry groups want President-elect Donald Trump to spare their sector from his promise of mass deportations, which could upend a food supply chain heavily dependent on immigrants in the United States illegally.
So far Trump officials have not committed to any exemptions, according to interviews with farm and worker groups and Trump's incoming "border czar" Tom Homan.
Nearly half of the nation's approximately 2 million farm workers lack legal status, according to the departments of Labor and Agriculture, as well as many dairy and meatpacking workers.
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https://www.newsweek.com/pennsylvania-s ... er-1995300
Pennsylvania steelworkers are feeling a "gut punch" after President-elect Donald Trump said he would block the $14.9 billion sale of U.S. Steel to a Japanese company.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-far ... 024-11-25/
WASHINGTON, Nov 25 (Reuters) - U.S. farm industry groups want President-elect Donald Trump to spare their sector from his promise of mass deportations, which could upend a food supply chain heavily dependent on immigrants in the United States illegally.
So far Trump officials have not committed to any exemptions, according to interviews with farm and worker groups and Trump's incoming "border czar" Tom Homan.
Nearly half of the nation's approximately 2 million farm workers lack legal status, according to the departments of Labor and Agriculture, as well as many dairy and meatpacking workers.
He told Fox News on Nov. 11 that enforcement against businesses would "have to happen" but has not said whether the agricultural sector would be targeted.
Isn't that what we 48% of the voters were screaming for? I don't want to experience Schadenfreude (nor feel the pain from what that the American idiot wants) but some of me feels like it has to happen to get us to change. I'm very conflicted.
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With regard to deportation, I would expect selective enforcement that targets blue states and cities. That would have a double benefit, in that it delivers the optics of following through on his promises while punishing parts of the country that don't support him by damaging their economies. The real trick is whether his team is capable of doing that without just tanking the entire economy.
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He was on Meet the Press and gave a batshit insane interview. I'm waiting for clips I can share, but the highlight for me was hearing him say RFK Jr. will be looking into the autism / vaccination connection and when asked if he'll remove vaccination requirements he said, "If they're dangerous for children."

I can't find any sharable clips or news articles (yet) about the vaccine element because the articles are all focused on the other crazy shit he said:
Trump said he would fulfill a campaign promise to levy tariffs on imports from America’s biggest trading partners. In a noteworthy moment, he conceded uncertainty when Welker asked if he could “guarantee American families won’t pay more” as a result of his plan.

I can’t guarantee anything,” Trump said. “I can’t guarantee tomorrow.”

Trump also said he will not raise the age for government programs like Social Security and Medicare and will not make cuts to them as part of spending reduction efforts led by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy. Asked if “raising ages or any of that stuff” was “off the table,” Trump agreed, saying, “I won’t do it.”
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He said he would consider raising the federal minimum wage, which has been $7.25 an hour since 2009, but would like to consult with the nation’s governors. “I will agree, it’s a very low number,” he said.

He said he’ll release his full medical records. Trump will be 82 by the time his term ends in 2029 — the same age Biden is now. He said he doesn’t plan to divest from Truth Social, the billion-dollar platform he launched after leaving office. “I don’t know what’s to divest,” he said. “All I do is I put out messages.” And he said he will not try to replace Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell, whom he has criticized in the past.
Immigration:
Immigration was the centerpiece of Trump’s campaign, and he didn’t flinch in saying he will carry out mass deportation of those who are living in the country illegally.

First will be convicted criminals, he said. Pressed on whether the targets would go beyond that group, Trump added: “Well, I think you have to do it, and it’s a hard — it’s a very tough thing to do. It’s — but you have to have, you know, you have rules, regulations, laws. They came in illegally.”

It’s also possible that American citizens will be caught up in the sweep and deported with family members who are here illegally, or could choose to go.

Asked about families with mixed immigration status, where some are in the U.S. legally and some illegally, Trump said, “I don’t want to be breaking up families, so the only way you don’t break up the family is you keep them together and you have to send them all back.”

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He also said he intends to eliminate birthright citizenship, the protection enshrined in the 14th Amendment that guarantees citizenship to anyone born on U.S. soil regardless of their parents. Asked about the likelihood that doing so unilaterally would face legal opposition, Trump said he would consider amending the Constitution.
Note that bolded part he just slips in, like it's no big deal.

Healthcare:
“Obamacare stinks,” he said. “If we come up with a better answer, I would present that answer to Democrats and to everybody else and I’d do something about it.”

When will he have a developed plan? “Well, I don’t know that you’ll see it at all,” Trump said, adding that health care experts are studying possible alternatives.
Foreign Policy:
He would not commit to keeping the U.S. in NATO, the European military alliance that has been a bulwark against Russia since World War II. “If they pay their bills, absolutely,” he would preserve America’s role in the alliance, he said.

On another foreign policy front, Trump expressed doubt that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad will be able to remain in power.

“It’s amazing, because he stayed for years under you would think much more adverse conditions, and all of the sudden, just rebels are going and they’re taking over large pieces of territory,” Trump said. “People have bet against him for a long time, and so far that hasn’t worked. But this seems to be different.”
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Smoove_B wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:11 pm Foreign Policy:
He would not commit to keeping the U.S. in NATO, the European military alliance that has been a bulwark against Russia since World War II. “If they pay their bills, absolutely,” he would preserve America’s role in the alliance, he said.

On another foreign policy front, Trump expressed doubt that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad will be able to remain in power.

“It’s amazing, because he stayed for years under you would think much more adverse conditions, and all of the sudden, just rebels are going and they’re taking over large pieces of territory,” Trump said. “People have bet against him for a long time, and so far that hasn’t worked. But this seems to be different.”
His position on Assad has evolved.

Trump says Russia abandoned Assad
U.S. President-elect Donald Trump said on Sunday that Russia's abandonment of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad led to his downfall, adding Moscow never should have protected him in the first place and then lost interest because of a war in Ukraine that never should have started.

"Assad is gone. He has fled his country. His protector, Russia, Russia, Russia, led by (President) Vladimir Putin, was not interested in protecting him any longer," Trump wrote on his social media platform Truth Social.

"There was no reason for Russia to be there in the first place," Trump wrote. "They lost all interest in Syria because of Ukraine ... a war that should never have started, and could go on forever."
His command of the geopolitical circumstances that led to Russia's presence in Syria is, as always, nothing short of stunning. :coffee:
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Kraken wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 10:05 pm

He also regards the stonk market as his personal scorecard; let's see what happens there if he really starts deporting the cheapest laborers.
Not only cheap labor, but anti-unionism. That's gonna go real well.
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Look, a list of things Trump said.
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Blackhawk wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 3:22 pm Look, a list of things Trump said.
Are we back to only being able to reflect on the things he actually does, not just the things he says he's going to do? Because the road to authoritarianism is paved with people saying, "stop overreacting".

I think this tweaks me because even his nonsense ramblings have an impact - going back to how I started. His implication that RFK Jr. needs to "look into" the autism/vaccination issue continues to provide oxygen to an argument that has been repeatedly settled by additional scientific studies and the official retraction of the fabricated paper that started it all. That we're still talking about this in 2024 - and that a President is saying it - is insane.
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No, it was just a sarcastic observation that Trump saying things generally has very little to do with reality - past, present, or future.
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I wish I could maintain your optimism that it's just the nonsense ramblings of a madman that will amount to nothing.

Additionally - I believe (strongly) that even his insane, unlikely to pass mutterings have an impact.
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Smoove_B wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:31 pm I wish I could maintain your optimism that it's just the nonsense ramblings of a madman that will amount to nothing.
There is no optimism. He will do terrible things. Some of the things he's said will be part of them, some things he's said he won't do will be part of them, and some of them he hasn't bothered to talk about at all.

It's just that what he says isn't a good reference. His statements are an unreliable source, and when I read a bunch of what his statements, I have to look at it as largely meaningless (beyond the fact that the President-elect would say them in the first place.)
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The difference is that the things that Trump says often lead people to believe and do shitty things. We already have very clear evidence of this having happened on multiple occasions, and the best thing we can do is hold him accountable and with a critical eye. This is not just an anybody, but someone who was voted into a position of power and a world leader. As such, his words good or bad will resonate.
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I think we're not so much disagreeing as we are discussing different aspects of the matter.

Him saying those things is meaningful in and of themselves, as they really do serve as a rallying cry, and do inspire the worst of the worst.

But they're not really useful as a reflection of his plans and intentions. When he speaks, it's to say what he thinks benefits him, or to brag, or to threaten, or to insult. It isn't to state what he's actually planning.
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But that's the thing. Whatever he says, whether he doesn't actually mean them or not, is taken at face value somewhere. And add the fact that random ramblings only add to the confusion to what he really means. It's all over the place, adding white noise to the whole situation. It doesn't help that most of what he says is said so matter of factly. So, if he says he's anti-union, I believe it.
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There are also thousands of politicians and media people taking their marching orders and talking points from what Trump says, now more than ever.

When they adapt to his off-the-cuff pronouncements, this moves the Overton window until eventually half the country sees tariffs and leaving NATO and arresting administration critics as just conventional wisdom.
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Yes, that's true. And as an elected and soon to be sitting President, his words do have an effect. They carry implication. So, for instance, if he talks about Canada in a certain way like he has, you bet your ass we are bracing ourselves. It doesn't matter if they are 'ramblings' or not, because at the end of the day, we have no choice but to look at our options and brace ourselves for any possibility, because for us (talking as a Canadian), the nature of the game has changed. And that's not even counting the disinformation campaigns against our own country that leverage the ramblings. For Trump, there doesn't seem to be a middle ground; you either do or you don't, but turn it up to 11 each way. Would hate to see the guy when he's hangry.
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Blackhawk wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 5:20 pm I think we're not so much disagreeing as we are discussing different aspects of the matter.

Him saying those things is meaningful in and of themselves, as they really do serve as a rallying cry, and do inspire the worst of the worst.

But they're not really useful as a reflection of his plans and intentions. When he speaks, it's to say what he thinks benefits him, or to brag, or to threaten, or to insult. It isn't to state what he's actually planning.
I disagree that what he says is uncorrelated to what he's going to do (or try to do). Going into 2017 a lot of what Trump was talking about was repealing Obamacare and tax cuts. And that's a lot of what he did in 2017. Also it's notable (and concerning) that he mentioned trying to abolish birthright citizenship, which he talked about in 2023 but not much this year. That's notable because an executive order purporting to abolish birthright citizenship is pretty nakedly unconstitutional - there's a crackpot right wing argument that the 14th amendment doesn't require that, but it's really dumb even by crackpot right wing legal argument standards.

On the plus side, this interview was relatively encouraging on the question of whether Trump is going to take another crack at repealing Obamacare. He doesn't say "we're going to get rid of it" he said "well it's something that we'll think about and if we come up with something better than maybe." I wouldn't rule out that that might happen, but it doesn't sound like something that is a priority.
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I said it was a poor predictor, not that there was no correlation. He absolutely does do some things he says, doesn't do other things he says, does the opposite of some things he says, and does things he never talked about.

Going by what he said as an indication of what he's going to do isn't all that useful. At best, it's an incomplete list of possibilities. It's only really meaningful in retrospect, after he's acted.
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Which makes him unpredictable. He has a poker face, but he doesn't have any tells, which makes it all the more important to be aware of what he says.
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Blackhawk wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 3:52 pm I said it was a poor predictor, not that there was no correlation. He absolutely does do some things he says, doesn't do other things he says, does the opposite of some things he says, and does things he never talked about.

Going by what he said as an indication of what he's going to do isn't all that useful. At best, it's an incomplete list of possibilities. It's only really meaningful in retrospect, after he's acted.
I think even that's overstating it. What he's saying in this and other interviews is a reflection of what the people around him are telling him, which is a useful indicator of what his administration is likely to try to do. The more he talks about a subject the more he is likely to try to do something about it.
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Rumpy wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:24 pm Which makes him unpredictable. He has a poker face, but he doesn't have any tells, which makes it all the more important to be aware of what he says.
He has plenty of tells. He just doesn't have any principles.

For example, "Many people don't know..." means Trump just heard something for the first time. "Many people are saying..." means he just made something up. "I tell you this, and it's true..." means he's lying.
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Holman wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 5:42 pm
Rumpy wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:24 pm Which makes him unpredictable. He has a poker face, but he doesn't have any tells, which makes it all the more important to be aware of what he says.
He has plenty of tells. He just doesn't have any principles.

For example, "Many people don't know..." means Trump just heard something for the first time. "Many people are saying..." means he just made something up. "I tell you this, and it's true..." means he's lying.
Good point, and I guess that's what I find difficult to assess about him.

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Holman wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 5:42 pm
Rumpy wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:24 pm Which makes him unpredictable. He has a poker face, but he doesn't have any tells, which makes it all the more important to be aware of what he says.
He has plenty of tells. He just doesn't have any principles.

For example, "Many people don't know..." means Trump just heard something for the first time. "Many people are saying..." means he just made something up. "I tell you this, and it's true..." means he's lying.
He had a new one at the end that was gaining traction "I saw it on the news" but "Many people are saying..." always made my stomach churn.
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Hiow much did Jill Biden get paid fir this ad:

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Pretty bold of Trump to draw attention to his smell.
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WTF Wray has said that he's going to resign in January. Completely mind-boggling. Somewhat lost in the (merited) controversy over Kash Patel being nominated for FBI Director is that FBI Directors are nominated for 10-year terms specifically to avoid politicization of the FBI, and Wray has three years left on his term. So firing Wray itself should be a scandal.

But here Wray is saving Trump the trouble of going through the scandal of officially firing him. PLUS it allows Trump to appoint an acting FBI director both pending Patel's confirmation and as a fallback if Patel doesn't get confirmed.

The story of 2024 is not just Trump getting elected, but of the vast majority of the institutionalists and very serious people bending over unnecessarily to accommodate him.
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Considering Trump nominated him in 2017 after firing Comey; this is just a way to say thanks.

Let's talk about how Manchin and Sinema just gave a final F-you and helped Trump on their way out as well.
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Smoove_B wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:20 pm Considering Trump nominated him in 2017 after firing Comey; this is just a way to say thanks.

Let's talk about how Manchin and Sinema just gave a final F-you and helped Trump on their way out as well.
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El Guapo wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:42 pm
Smoove_B wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:20 pm Considering Trump nominated him in 2017 after firing Comey; this is just a way to say thanks.

Let's talk about how Manchin and Sinema just gave a final F-you and helped Trump on their way out as well.
What did they do?
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Sinema hasn't voted in weeks and yet she shows up this afternoon to vote against Biden's nomination for the National Labor Relations Board:
Driving the news: Democrats thought they could install McFerran, the current chair, for another five-year term.

That would ensure Democrats had a 3-2 majority on the board, which helps referee disputes between employers of workers across the economy, from Amazon to Starbucks.
"It is deeply disappointing, a direct attack on working people, and incredibly troubling that this highly qualified nominee — with a proven track record of protecting worker rights — did not have the votes," Schumer said.
Clincher:
With Manchin apparently off-campus, Sinema was the first of the two to vote "No."
That left the vote tied at 49-49, with the possibility that Vice President Harris could break the tie, but then word began to circulate that Manchin was en route back to the Capitol.
Manchin arrived after the vote had been open for more than 90 minutes, and voted "No."
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Plus I'm seeing that John Fetterman has joined Truth Social and his first post called for Trump to be pardoned!
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Yes, it's very much a "Both sides are bad..." tone, which is certainly a great first post. I don't know if it was his stroke or this is just the way he was the whole time, but he's really managed to slide into awful at a comfortable pace.
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Max Peck wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:37 pm With regard to deportation, I would expect selective enforcement that targets blue states and cities. That would have a double benefit, in that it delivers the optics of following through on his promises while punishing parts of the country that don't support him by damaging their economies. The real trick is whether his team is capable of doing that without just tanking the entire economy.
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Chicago to be ground zero for mass deportations, Trump border czar tells Illinois Republicans

President-elect Donald Trump’s border czar Tom Homan came to Chicago on Monday to implore Mayor Brandon Johnson and Gov. JB Pritzker to “come to the table” and negotiate with him over a mass deportation plan that he declared would start right here.


“Chicago’s in trouble because your mayor sucks and your governor sucks,” Homan said to cheers. Later, he called both “terrible” while also telling them to “come to the table.”

To Johnson, who has said he would protect the city’s immigrants from federal agents, Homan said, “If he doesn’t want to help, get the hell out of the way.”



Homan, the former acting head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement during Trump’s first term, began a 20-minute address at a Northwest Side GOP holiday party with some light ribbing before detailing his plan, which includes verifying the status of asylum-seekers and arresting people who are found harboring criminals.
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Speaking of which, new plans incoming:
The incoming Trump administration intends to rescind a long-standing policy that has prevented Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents from arresting undocumented people at or near so-called sensitive locations, including houses of worship, schools and hospitals or events such as funerals, weddings and public demonstrations without approval from supervisors, according to three sources familiar with the plan

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The move would be intended to boost ICE’s authority to arrest migrants across the country, and its speed in doing so, as part of Trump’s plan to carry out what he has said he wants to be the “largest deportation operation in American history.

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The idea that Trump might allow ICE agents to make arrests anywhere, even inside schools and houses of worship, without the current limitations began circulating in Project 2025, a list of policy proposals distributed by the Heritage Foundation prior to the election.

Some church leaders say they have faced harassment for providing sanctuary space to migrants and are already having conversations about the impacts of a policy change on sensitive locations.
It's just talk though, I'm sure we'll be fine. Meanwhile emergency planners are scrambling now to figure out what this could mean for post-disaster services where ICE will be rolling through the emergency shelters that have been set up to detain anyone that's undocumented.
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Welp, so much for fixing inflation.

Donald Trump Has No Idea What to Do About Inflation
Donald Trump knows that he won the presidency because grocery prices are high. What he doesn’t know is how to actually get those prices to come down.

In a lengthy interview with Time magazine published Thursday, Trump had changed up his tune when asked if his presidency would be a failure if he couldn’t deliver his promise to lower the price of groceries.

“I don’t think so. Look, they got them up. I’d like to bring them down. It’s hard to bring things down once they’re up. You know, it’s very hard. But I think that they will,” Trump said.

“I think that energy is going to bring them down. I think a better supply chain is going to bring them down. You know, the supply chain is still broken. It’s broken. You see it. You go out to the docks and you see all these containers,” Trump said. He proceeded to describe a port in California that held over a dozen full shipping containers as evidence for a “broken” supply chain.

It seems Trump is already trying to manage expectations after making more than a few lofty promises about bringing grocery prices down, a goal that is not reflected in his disastrous proposed economic policies. Trump’s plan to implement 25 percent tariffs on Canada and Mexico will likely increase the price of everyday consumer products, like groceries. In 2022, Mexico accounted for a whopping 69 percent of U.S. vegetable imports and 51 percent of fresh fruit imports.
Speaking of that Time interview, it looks like Trump is Time's Person of the Year for 2024. No doubt they will come under withering criticism for not going with Man of the Year.
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Fake it til you make it.


He can now replace all those fake Time covers he plastered all over his shitty resorts.
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Re: The Apprentice Season 2 - The Second Presidency of Donald Trump

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Max Peck wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:38 pm Welp, so much for fixing inflation.

Donald Trump Has No Idea What to Do About Inflation
Donald Trump knows that he won the presidency because grocery prices are high. What he doesn’t know is how to actually get those prices to come down.
Well to be fair, inflation is already near the Fed's target number, and you don't want deflation. If prices are falling across the board, you're in a recession. All trump has to do is wait for people to adjust to the higher prices that are already baked in, while avoiding reigniting inflation with tariffs and deportations.
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Max Peck wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:38 pm Welp, so much for fixing inflation.

Donald Trump Has No Idea What to Do About Inflation
Donald Trump knows that he won the presidency because grocery prices are high. What he doesn’t know is how to actually get those prices to come down.

In a lengthy interview with Time magazine published Thursday, Trump had changed up his tune when asked if his presidency would be a failure if he couldn’t deliver his promise to lower the price of groceries.

“I don’t think so. Look, they got them up. I’d like to bring them down. It’s hard to bring things down once they’re up. You know, it’s very hard. But I think that they will,” Trump said.

“I think that energy is going to bring them down. I think a better supply chain is going to bring them down. You know, the supply chain is still broken. It’s broken. You see it. You go out to the docks and you see all these containers,” Trump said. He proceeded to describe a port in California that held over a dozen full shipping containers as evidence for a “broken” supply chain.

It seems Trump is already trying to manage expectations after making more than a few lofty promises about bringing grocery prices down, a goal that is not reflected in his disastrous proposed economic policies. Trump’s plan to implement 25 percent tariffs on Canada and Mexico will likely increase the price of everyday consumer products, like groceries. In 2022, Mexico accounted for a whopping 69 percent of U.S. vegetable imports and 51 percent of fresh fruit imports.
Speaking of that Time interview, it looks like Trump is Time's Person of the Year for 2024. No doubt they will come under withering criticism for not going with Man of the Year.
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