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It all started with that goddamn turkey. :roll:
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I think Joe's legacy is secured, and will only shine greater in comparison to the tariff turd.
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Jaymann wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:30 pm I think Joe's legacy is secured, and will only shine greater in comparison to the tariff turd.
I'm more skeptical. It depends just how bad the Trump years get, but I think he'll mainly be remembered for failing to secure the government or to otherwise prevent Trump's return to power.
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How do you compete with Musk going all in on Trump with dark money and Twitter/X? If anything, we’re going to find out over time how corrupt Trump was in the election due to his desperation to avoid prosecution.
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Hella. The answer is hella.
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Zarathud wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:59 pm How do you compete with Musk going all in on Trump with dark money and Twitter/X? If anything, we’re going to find out over time how corrupt Trump was in the election due to his desperation to avoid prosecution.
I'm sure lots of books will be written about it.
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Sadly, I think part of his legacy will end up being him held up as an example of the issues with gerontocracy. It doesn't matter if it's deserved or not - it's the impression a lot of people ended up with.
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Not sure I understand this one. Is it just because he's old and already on home release?

https://www.wgal.com/article/former-luz ... d/63177355
A former Luzerne County judge was one of the roughly 1,500 people who had their sentences commuted Thursday by President Joe Biden. Michael Conahan, 72, was sentenced to more than 17 years in prison for sending juveniles to for-profit prisons for millions of dollars in kickbacks.
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It's not like he's at risk to reoffend.
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Biden has commuted the sentences of all but 3 federal death row inmates. Two of the three remaining look like to be, at the very least, white nationalist adjacent (one shot up a black church, the other a synagogue), so they've got a 50/50 chance that Trump will straight up pardon them. The other one is the Boston Marathon bomber, so I'd guess he's for the rack, then drawing-and-quartering or whatever is the most theatrically cruel method of execution that Trump can conjure up.
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Alefroth wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:25 am Not sure I understand this one. Is it just because he's old and already on home release?

https://www.wgal.com/article/former-luz ... d/63177355
A former Luzerne County judge was one of the roughly 1,500 people who had their sentences commuted Thursday by President Joe Biden. Michael Conahan, 72, was sentenced to more than 17 years in prison for sending juveniles to for-profit prisons for millions of dollars in kickbacks.
I don't like this one.

This guy abused the power of the judiciary to absolutely ruin young lives for personal profit. His crimes combine corruption, racism, callous cruelty, and betrayal of public trust. The damage he did is incalculable.
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He wasn't individually selected. It was a blanket pardon of every convict who had been given home detention because of COVID-19. I guess that Biden assumed that whatever mechanism found them sufficiently safe for home detention was enough.
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Biden commutes sentences of nearly all federal death row inmates
President Joe Biden is commuting the sentences of 37 inmates on federal death row, the White House said Monday.

The move reduces the sentence for all but three of the 40 inmates on federal death row. Biden said that the commutations are "consistent with the moratorium my Administration has imposed on federal executions," with the exception of terrorism and hate-motivated mass killings.

The three people on the federal execution list who were not on Biden's commutation list are Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, one of the perpetrators of the Boston Marathon bombing; Robert Bowers, who was convicted of the mass shooting at the Tree of Life Synagogue antisemitic attack; and Dylann Roof, who killed nine Black churchgoers in a racially motivated shooting in South Carolina.

According to the White House fact sheet about the move, the recipients of the commutations will have their sentences "reclassified from execution to life without the possibility of parole."
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